# 20 players to start a game bullsh\*t **URL:** \ **Category:** Rental Servers\ **Created:** [December 3, 2016, 10:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064 "2016-12-03T10:37:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ric02ardochicken](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c4cdca/32.png) [@ric02ardochicken](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ric02ardochicken)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 10:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/1 "2016-12-03T10:37:00Z")
DICE why make it 20 player to start its stupid especially for milsim clans who at a time maybe have 12 members online they cant do anything because the game doesnt start till there is 20 players in the server ---
**Author:** ![JUT72UK](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jut72uk/32/102441_2.png) [@JUT72UK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JUT72UK)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/2 "2016-12-03T18:05:00Z")
Restrictions should be lowered to what they were in BF4 = 4 people to get a game going and back to pre round if it drops to 2. Only DICE servers should have the strict limits in place. They are quick to take our money for the servers but will fail due to people getting refunds if they can’t play on what they have paid for. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/3 "2016-12-03T21:30:00Z")
They’ve already confirmed this number is being changed to 6. ---
**Author:** ![Pitbruiser](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pitbruiser/32/105249_2.png) [@Pitbruiser](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pitbruiser)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/4 "2016-12-03T22:46:00Z")
> [@\-BIA-JUT72UK](#): > > Restrictions should be lowered to what they were in BF4 = 4 people to get a game going and back to pre round if it drops to 2. > Only DICE servers should have the strict limits in place. > > They are quick to take our money for the servers but will fail due to people getting refunds if they can’t play on what they have paid for. +1 I strongly urge DICE to reduce minimum player start to four as well. In BF4, it was already difficult for most servers to get a game going with four player start. The plan to reduce BF1 to a six player start is better than twenty, but as experience has already shown, four player start is still too difficult for most server renters. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/5 "2016-12-04T00:18:00Z")
> [@Pitbruiser](#): > > > [@\-BIA-JUT72UK](#): > > > > Restrictions should be lowered to what they were in BF4 = 4 people to get a game going and back to pre round if it drops to 2. > > Only DICE servers should have the strict limits in place. > > > > They are quick to take our money for the servers but will fail due to people getting refunds if they can’t play on what they have paid for. > > +1 > > I strongly urge DICE to reduce minimum player start to four as well. > > In BF4, it was already difficult for most servers to get a game going with four player start. > > The plan to reduce BF1 to a six player start is better than twenty, but as experience has already shown, four player start is still too difficult for most server renters. I’ll say at least 50%, if not more of the community will never get their server(s) comfortably filled most of the time. This is how it’s always been. Traditionally there aren’t enough players to actually fill all of the servers rented. Those that do fill there’s, do so by providing the necessary environments and a lot of work. It’s not EA’s or DICE’s responsibility to ensure your particular server is filled to the brim with players. Although it is their responsibility to give you adequate tools/features/functionality to enable you the chance to do so. The baseline “coming soon” features will enable that chance. From there it is your responsibility. To think that a 4 player start will help you get filled is naive at best. Most players won’t touch a server unless there are at least 12 or more playing. And that’s dependent on game mode and size. 6 to start is fine. ---
**Author:** ![Pitbruiser](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pitbruiser/32/105249_2.png) [@Pitbruiser](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pitbruiser)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/6 "2016-12-04T03:03:00Z")
> [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > [@Pitbruiser](#): > > > > > [@\-BIA-JUT72UK](#): > > > > > > Restrictions should be lowered to what they were in BF4 = 4 people to get a game going and back to pre round if it drops to 2. > > > Only DICE servers should have the strict limits in place. > > > > > > They are quick to take our money for the servers but will fail due to people getting refunds if they can’t play on what they have paid for. > > > > +1 > > > > I strongly urge DICE to reduce minimum player start to four as well. > > > > In BF4, it was already difficult for most servers to get a game going with four player start. > > > > The plan to reduce BF1 to a six player start is better than twenty, but as experience has already shown, four player start is still too difficult for most server renters. > > I’ll say at least 50%, if not more of the community will never get their server(s) comfortably filled most of the time. This is how it’s always been. Traditionally there aren’t enough players to actually fill all of the servers rented. Those that do fill there’s, do so by providing the necessary environments and a lot of work. > > It’s not EA’s or DICE’s responsibility to ensure your particular server is filled to the brim with players. Although it is their responsibility to give you adequate tools/features/functionality to enable you the chance to do so. > > The baseline “coming soon” features will enable that chance. From there it is your responsibility. > > To think that a 4 player start will help you get filled is naive at best. Most players won’t touch a server unless there are at least 12 or more playing. And that’s dependent on game mode and size. 6 to start is fine. It is not naive to think four player start will fill a server. We’ve done it on daily basis and we did it for years. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/7 "2016-12-04T03:12:00Z")
> [@Pitbruiser](#): > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > [@Pitbruiser](#): > > > > > > > [@\-BIA-JUT72UK](#): > > > > > > > > Restrictions should be lowered to what they were in BF4 = 4 people to get a game going and back to pre round if it drops to 2. > > > > Only DICE servers should have the strict limits in place. > > > > > > > > They are quick to take our money for the servers but will fail due to people getting refunds if they can’t play on what they have paid for. > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > I strongly urge DICE to reduce minimum player start to four as well. > > > > > > In BF4, it was already difficult for most servers to get a game going with four player start. > > > > > > The plan to reduce BF1 to a six player start is better than twenty, but as experience has already shown, four player start is still too difficult for most server renters. > > > > I’ll say at least 50%, if not more of the community will never get their server(s) comfortably filled most of the time. This is how it’s always been. Traditionally there aren’t enough players to actually fill all of the servers rented. Those that do fill there’s, do so by providing the necessary environments and a lot of work. > > > > It’s not EA’s or DICE’s responsibility to ensure your particular server is filled to the brim with players. Although it is their responsibility to give you adequate tools/features/functionality to enable you the chance to do so. > > > > The baseline “coming soon” features will enable that chance. From there it is your responsibility. > > > > To think that a 4 player start will help you get filled is naive at best. Most players won’t touch a server unless there are at least 12 or more playing. And that’s dependent on game mode and size. 6 to start is fine. > > It is not naive to think four player start will fill a server. We’ve done it on daily basis and we did it for years. Not just because there was a 4 player to start setting. It took work. ---
**Author:** ![Pitbruiser](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pitbruiser/32/105249_2.png) [@Pitbruiser](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pitbruiser)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/8 "2016-12-04T03:42:00Z")
> [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > [@Pitbruiser](#): > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > > [@Pitbruiser](#): > > > > > > > > > [@\-BIA-JUT72UK](#): > > > > > > > > > > Restrictions should be lowered to what they were in BF4 = 4 people to get a game going and back to pre round if it drops to 2. > > > > > Only DICE servers should have the strict limits in place. > > > > > > > > > > They are quick to take our money for the servers but will fail due to people getting refunds if they can’t play on what they have paid for. > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > I strongly urge DICE to reduce minimum player start to four as well. > > > > > > > > In BF4, it was already difficult for most servers to get a game going with four player start. > > > > > > > > The plan to reduce BF1 to a six player start is better than twenty, but as experience has already shown, four player start is still too difficult for most server renters. > > > > > > I’ll say at least 50%, if not more of the community will never get their server(s) comfortably filled most of the time. This is how it’s always been. Traditionally there aren’t enough players to actually fill all of the servers rented. Those that do fill there’s, do so by providing the necessary environments and a lot of work. > > > > > > It’s not EA’s or DICE’s responsibility to ensure your particular server is filled to the brim with players. Although it is their responsibility to give you adequate tools/features/functionality to enable you the chance to do so. > > > > > > The baseline “coming soon” features will enable that chance. From there it is your responsibility. > > > > > > To think that a 4 player start will help you get filled is naive at best. Most players won’t touch a server unless there are at least 12 or more playing. And that’s dependent on game mode and size. 6 to start is fine. > > > > It is not naive to think four player start will fill a server. We’ve done it on daily basis and we did it for years. > > Not just because there was a 4 player to start setting. It took work. It took some work, but six player start will take even more work. To be honest, this idea of having X amount of players to break pre-round is ridiculous. DICE ought to go back the way it was with BF1942, BF2, and BC2. DICE didn’t give a hoot about stat padders then, why should they now? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Inabizzle1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/f14d63/32.png) [@Inabizzle1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Inabizzle1)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 10:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/9 "2017-10-14T10:15:00Z")
Totally agree should be 4 to start and why can’t they let you play till it starts like bf4 does instead of looking at that dam screen waiting. They have finally added operations to server browser but no filter option for 40 player server. ---
**Author:** ![Inabizzle1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/f14d63/32.png) [@Inabizzle1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Inabizzle1)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 10:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/10 "2017-10-14T10:33:00Z")
Just noticed under operations they have removed the 40 or 64 player option, what a bunch of Muppet’s I don’t want to play 64 player lag fests ---
**Author:** ![Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Axlerod1)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/11 "2017-10-14T14:29:00Z")
I guess I am in the other crowd. Every day I get my server going. Every day it fills up. Like REV said, it takes work and a great environment. It also takes friends. WE have been doing this since BF1942. Do I like 20 player start? No 6 player start is fine. I can even agree to 8 players. 20 player start is to difficult for most servers to get started. The other thing is we need to be able to set up things like HARDCORE mode and have it not show up as custom. You can not change any settings at all or your server will show up as custom and very few will find your server. ---
**Author:** ![Antares65z](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/antares65z/32/100925_2.png) [@Antares65z](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Antares65z)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/12 "2017-10-14T16:00:00Z")
> [@Inabizzle1](#): > > Totally agree should be 4 to start and why can’t they let you play till it starts like bf4 does instead of looking at that dam screen waiting. They have finally added operations to server browser but no filter option for 40 player server. It would definitely help keep players interested in the pre-round if they enabled the flags to be and all weapons you have earned. Currently there is no point on the map to converge on and players wander around lost until they get bored and leave. My server expired yesterday and so far I haven’t renewed it. But if they are going to drop it to 6 player start, I may do so. ---
**Author:** ![CrashCA](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crashca/32/100942_2.png) [@CrashCA](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CrashCA)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/13 "2017-10-14T20:24:00Z")
RSP server’s can be set to 6 player start since the summer BUT it makes a server Custom and thus hard to fill ---
**Author:** ![Antares65z](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/antares65z/32/100925_2.png) [@Antares65z](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Antares65z)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/14 "2017-10-15T16:33:00Z")
> [@CrashCA](#): > > RSP server’s can be set to 6 player start since the summer BUT it makes a server Custom and thus hard to fill I’m wondering when they’ll roll out the patch to where setting it to 6 players won’t make it Custom. Would be nice if we could make other changes as well without it affect the server’s visibility in the browser under default filters. So far I haven’t renewed mine yet. Sure wish we could get an All Maps server going on the West coast that gets daily traffic. ---
**Author:** ![Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Axlerod1)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/15 "2017-10-15T18:33:00Z")
well it been this way for 1 year now. Don’t get your hopes up. We just got ability to move players a few days ago. It took dice 6 months to give a the ability to kick and ban players. In 1 more year the next Battlefield game will be out. Do the math. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/20-players-to-start-a-game-bullsh-t/104064/16 "2017-10-15T20:24:00Z")
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