# A plea to DICE medic weapons must dominate CQB

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**Created:** [December 21, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/a-plea-to-dice-medic-weapons-must-dominate-cqb/254009 "2018-12-21T17:11:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![VindictiV\_V](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/c89c15/32.png) [@VindictiV\_V](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VindictiV_V)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/a-plea-to-dice-medic-weapons-must-dominate-cqb/254009/20 "2018-12-22T09:33:00Z")

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> [@bran1986](#):
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> I’m not sure a 3 btk would be balanced, @VindictiVagabond is probably a lot better at the math than I am lol. The problem is how dice decided to balance all weapons in a class in a universal way instead of individually balancing guns to their strengths and weaknesses.
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> Giving all automatic a blanket 4 btk range has really damaged the smgs and has given them little room to be balanced in their niche. It is also amusing some of the people who defended the assault buffs in BF1 and told people to stop crying because it was only 12 meters, are the same ones that screeched about “potato” assault rifles when smgs only had a 9 meter “advantage.”
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> There is only two things I can think of to give medics and their smgs their CQB niche back. The first is move most assault rifles and the Ke7 and FG42 back to a 5 btk in cqb. The other thing is giving medic smgs an exclusive 5 to 10 meter 4 btk range buff to 15-20 meters. Other than that I’m not sure what else can be done until DICE overhauls how they balance the guns in BFV.

3BTK for weapons that have 514 to 770 RPM by default would make them completely broken. The only solution that I see would work without making SMGs godlike broken is indeed to:

- nerf CQC damage/capabilities of ARs, LMGs and MMGs
- give all SMGs 10m more to each BTK increments (4BTK at 0-20m, 5BTK at 21-40, 6BTK etc etc.)
- SMGs with less than 600 RPM need : a small RoF buff, bullet velocity major buff, horizontal recoil significant reduction and SIPS reduction. \*Rationale: their accuracy should be equal if not better than say the STG44 because they have less RPM, DPS and damage per shot. \*

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