# AA gun's ridiculous range, shown in images from different maps.

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 27, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584 "2016-10-27T06:30:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/precisionwing/32/103161_2.png) [@PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PrecisionWing)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/1 "2016-10-27T06:30:00Z")

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Current AA range is crazy, basically it can over half of the map at least, or the entire map of Ballroom Blitz.  
like this:

 ![30505822031_1865af4ee6_b.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/4/1/414f96709ba6a9f40a19a7c23c45e424a87e2180.jpeg)

Some ppl argue that pilots should have situation awareness, but how could anyone have this kind of “situation awareness” of one single infantry from the other side of the map jumps in a AA gun and instantly disable you from 50m within his uncap?

and there are some examples for other maps, just see how crazy it is.

 ![30557238346_d3792dc16b_b.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/0/7/07338c5686c88366c6f8e83ada2a66e4384a3d86.jpeg)  
 ![30476877892_99e033c210_b.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/5/a/5a03d91ed86473b9127abb2c654224b64700fe10.jpeg)  
 ![30593897435_4ccf8337f5_b.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/5/1/519626f3f3d42d0f7dfbacbf9c50b314dcfc3569.jpeg)  
 ![30593897535_2f991f4bde_h.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/c/f/cfdb806b57e8e5bac67df49e0314b22c4435864e.jpeg)

 ![30557238346_d3792dc16b_b.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/0/7/07338c5686c88366c6f8e83ada2a66e4384a3d86.jpeg)

Dont trust me? Join any of these maps and try it out yourself.  
Trust your teammate to take them out? Never saw any players went deeply behind enemy line to take out one single AA gunner in public servers.

AA range should be greatly reduced and one shot wing damage should only be effective when planes are below certain health levels.

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**Author:** ![Ransurias](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ransurias/32/103222_2.png) [@Ransurias](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ransurias)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/2 "2016-10-27T06:34:00Z")

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Who’s going to be the idiot that says AA is fine and that pilots need to git gud?

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**Author:** ![MapleLeafWarrior](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/898d66/32.png) [@MapleLeafWarrior](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MapleLeafWarrior)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/3 "2016-10-27T06:35:00Z")

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The QF1 Pounder range is insanely unbalanced in favour of the AA gunner. Even if an aircraft has memorized the location of all stationary AA on the map, its nearly impossible to approach to kill the AA gunner without flying low.

At that point you’re in the fate of the crappy as hell hit collision with tree leaves.

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**Author:** ![PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/precisionwing/32/103161_2.png) [@PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PrecisionWing)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/4 "2016-10-27T06:38:00Z")

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> [@Ransurias](#):
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> Who’s going to be the idiot that says AA is fine and that pilots need to git gud?

and with one shot wing damage, they can just sit in the gunner sit behind frontline to constantly disable planes.

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**Author:** ![iFistyoSis](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/3ab097/32.png) [@iFistyoSis](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iFistyoSis)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/5 "2016-10-27T06:42:00Z")

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Been saying this since release. The AA,s range should be reduced, ALOT. Whoever says otherwise simply dont care about flying and getting easy kills with the AA makes them feel better players. If you take that away from them theyr kdr will drop. Blasphemy…

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**Author:** ![PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/precisionwing/32/103161_2.png) [@PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PrecisionWing)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/6 "2016-10-27T06:48:00Z")

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> [@HotahO\_X](#):
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> Been saying this since release. The AA,s range should be reduced, ALOT. Whoever says otherwise simply dont care about flying and getting easy kills with the AA makes them feel better players. If you take that away from them theyr kdr will drop. Blasphemy…

that’s why i started to play light tanks in bf1. I love air vehicles and am dedicated lots of efforts in it during my bf4 time, jet only all the way to #2 attackjet pilot global.  
ppl always say bf1 is all about teamwork, but this is the truth, there are barely any kind of teamwork in BF1, cuz if there is, there are no way a random tank driver like me can get about 30-40:1 average, taking into consideration that tanks in bf1 are much weaker than BF3 and 4.  
Same as AA gunners, there are no teamwork to take them out if they are not sitting in the front line AA seat.

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**Author:** ![Sawtooth751](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sawtooth751/32/100989_2.png) [@Sawtooth751](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sawtooth751)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 9:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/7 "2016-10-27T09:45:00Z")

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> [@Ransurias](#):
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> Who’s going to be the idiot that says AA is fine and that pilots need to git gud?

I suggest you refrain from making these kinds of comments. They add nothing to the discussion.

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**Author:** ![incapslap](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@incapslap](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/incapslap)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 11:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/8 "2016-10-27T11:34:00Z")

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I’ll be the idiot.

OP is an air-only player and wants to farm without any opposition (check the other threads). No one else gets free reign over the whole map, why should air?

You need to coordinate with your team to take over the AA guns or take them out, and fly where it is safe when you are uncertain. It’s not like the AA are in a different location each game.

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**Author:** ![x\_Undaunted\_x](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/x_undaunted_x/32/104094_2.png) [@x\_Undaunted\_x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/x_Undaunted_x)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/9 "2016-10-27T12:08:00Z")

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> [@Sawtooth75](#):
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> > [@Ransurias](#):
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> > Who’s going to be the idiot that says AA is fine and that pilots need to git gud?
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> I suggest you refrain from making these kinds of comments. They add nothing to the discussion.

I’m sorry Sawtooth, but he’s right. Look through all of the “AA is overpowered” threads and there’s always that 1 guy who starts in on pilots even when there’s a legit complaint and the person making the case has good arguments. (Respectfully) I’m not trying to tell anyone how to do their job or discuss moderation here, but it would be really nice if the guys who start throwing the “get gud” or “Pilots just want to go 50-0” would also get the same reprimands because it’s totally flamebait and adds nothing to discussions either. (Just being honest here.)

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**Author:** ![SpicyBhangraLova](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/spicybhangralova/32/103578_2.png) [@SpicyBhangraLova](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SpicyBhangraLova)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/10 "2016-10-27T12:24:00Z")

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> [@PrecisionWing](#):
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> > [@HotahO\_X](#):
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> > Been saying this since release. The AA,s range should be reduced, ALOT. Whoever says otherwise simply dont care about flying and getting easy kills with the AA makes them feel better players. If you take that away from them theyr kdr will drop. Blasphemy…
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> that’s why i started to play light tanks in bf1. I love air vehicles and am dedicated lots of efforts in it during my bf4 time, jet only all the way to #2 attackjet pilot global.  
> ppl always say bf1 is all about teamwork, but this is the truth, there are barely any kind of teamwork in BF1, cuz if there is, there are no way a random tank driver like me can get about 30-40:1 average, taking into consideration that tanks in bf1 are much weaker than BF3 and 4.  
> Same as AA gunners, there are no teamwork to take them out if they are not sitting in the front line AA seat.

Sorry but you’d have to be near on to not do well in tanks on this game, they are vastly easier to use than in bf3/4 there is literally nearly no thought involved apart from maybe situational awarenesss, BF3/4 you had to be much more careful about what you did with the tank, you couldn’t repair from the inside or have these super instant repairs, you had to hit an run, get out and physically repair the tank, trying not to get picked off by infantry at the same time, no stupid ricocheting, you had to be mindful of not showing the back of the tank to the enemy or it can be disabled in one rocket, killed in 2. Tanking in this game is a bore fest and little to no skill involved which is sad because I enjoyed it a lot in bf4.

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**Author:** ![Confucius\_o](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/confucius_o/32/101549_2.png) [@Confucius\_o](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Confucius_o)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/11 "2016-10-27T12:28:00Z")

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Is it bed time yet? YAWN

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**Author:** ![SpicyBhangraLova](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/spicybhangralova/32/103578_2.png) [@SpicyBhangraLova](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SpicyBhangraLova)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/12 "2016-10-27T12:31:00Z")

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> [@Teh\_Next](#):
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> Is it bed time yet? YAWN

Maybe you should go to bed, you seem tired.

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**Author:** ![Durty18](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Durty18](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Durty18)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/13 "2016-10-27T12:35:00Z")

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You know what my buddy and I do besides complain about them? We go around and destroy them and then get into a plane. It’s really not that hard…

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**Author:** ![UteUncleBarryyyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@UteUncleBarryyyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UteUncleBarryyyy)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/14 "2016-10-27T12:52:00Z")

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Seems dice sweden has a full-chub for overpowered AA. Let’s not forget the MAA and Stingers in BF4. Hopefully a nerf patch doesn’t take as long as it did in BF4.

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**Author:** ![SilkWildey](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8491ac/32.png) [@SilkWildey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SilkWildey)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/15 "2016-10-27T12:56:00Z")

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I have literally sat on the AA gun for a full game just taking out planes and even got on one in the enemy spawn and just wrecked planes straight away… so fun and I am helping my team.

OP? Nah I don’t think so

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**Author:** ![buddie11](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/85e7bf/32.png) [@buddie11](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/buddie11)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/16 "2016-10-27T13:01:00Z")

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Less range more AA installations!! Makes everyone happy.

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**Author:** ![madro](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/3ab097/32.png) [@madro](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/madro)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/17 "2016-10-27T13:05:00Z")

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I was honestly to the point of breaking when I was a pilot in bf4 due to the base camping AA that would constantly lock on to any aircraft leaving the opposing base making flying an miserable experience for both jets and helicopters on every map, I was so looking forward to no lock on weapons in bf1. I thought the AA would be properly balanced and now it’s just about as bad as it was, hopefully they will fix it. Balancing it should be pretty simple

Limit the range  
Slow down ROF  
Make it over heat or need to be reloaded after five shots

With all this said I don’t want them to completely destroy the AA and make it useless

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**Author:** ![Chappa74](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/chappa74/32/101495_2.png) [@Chappa74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Chappa74)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/18 "2016-10-27T13:09:00Z")

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This is not modern warfare. Planes were weak in 1918 and not designed to be flown close to the ground. Get used to the fact that aircraft in this game will not be a 45-1 KD crutch for all you BF3/4 chopper pro’s. I love to hear all the whining about AA in this game because the shoe is on the other foot, and infantry can wreck planes! The Red Baron was killed by a 2 man Vickers gun crew because he was only 350’ off the ground.

Keep these threads coming boys! #sweettearsofapilot

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**Author:** ![SpicyBhangraLova](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/spicybhangralova/32/103578_2.png) [@SpicyBhangraLova](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SpicyBhangraLova)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/19 "2016-10-27T13:14:00Z")

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> [@Chappa74](#):
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> This is not modern warfare. Planes were weak in 1918 and not designed to be flown close to the ground. Get used to the fact that aircraft in this game will not be a 45-1 KD crutch for all you BF3/4 chopper pro’s. I love to hear all the whining about AA in this game because the shoe is on the other foot, and infantry can wreck planes! The Red Baron was killed by a 2 man Vickers gun crew because he was only 350’ off the ground.
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> Keep these threads coming boys! #sweettearsofapilot

This is not a real representation of what things were like in WW1 that would be no fun at all, this is a game and it needs to be balanced, about aircraft being a crutch, I’d like to see you go 45-1 in BF4 with a plane.

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**Author:** ![TheBaitOne](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thebaitone/32/103764_2.png) [@TheBaitOne](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheBaitOne)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 1:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aa-guns-ridiculous-range-shown-in-images-from-different-maps/102584/20 "2016-10-27T13:16:00Z")

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> [@Chappa74](#):
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> This is not modern warfare. Planes were weak in 1918 and not designed to be flown close to the ground. Get used to the fact that aircraft in this game will not be a 45-1 KD crutch for all you BF3/4 chopper pro’s. I love to hear all the whining about AA in this game because the shoe is on the other foot, and infantry can wreck planes! The Red Baron was killed by a 2 man Vickers gun crew because he was only 350’ off the ground.
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> Keep these threads coming boys! #sweettearsofapilot

Except aircraft in BF1 have nowhere near the damage potential of Attack jets and Gunships, so now what you have is weak air power with super efficient AA aka redundant air power. Plus fighter planes are a thing that exist and they wreck attack aircraft with near impunity.

There is no reason AA should be that good, also your realism argument about altitude just doesn’t fly \*pardon the pun

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