# AAs need a major buff **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 25, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073 "2019-02-25T05:56:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![someguy12121](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/someguy12121/32/103557_2.png) [@someguy12121](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/someguy12121)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/1 "2019-02-25T05:56:00Z")
AA guns in BFV don’t do enough damage and aren’t enough of a deterrent IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 7:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/2 "2019-02-25T07:38:00Z")
the planes are also less devastating to the ground forces. ---
**Author:** ![stiny1838](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/db5fbb/32.png) [@stiny1838](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stiny1838)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 7:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/3 "2019-02-25T07:57:00Z")
> [@someguy12121](#): > > AA guns in BFV don’t do enough damage and aren’t enough of a deterrent IMO. yep any time a plane notices aa firing they fly at it for the free kill. ---
**Author:** ![GloriousRepublic](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gloriousrepublic/32/101034_2.png) [@GloriousRepublic](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GloriousRepublic)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 8:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/4 "2019-02-25T08:22:00Z")
Ya I agree but every pilots logic is learn to fly, problem solved. Sorry we all can’t be in planes. Some of us you know, take flags and do the grunt work. ---
**Author:** ![mattd3162014](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mattd3162014/32/102761_2.png) [@mattd3162014](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mattd3162014)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 8:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/5 "2019-02-25T08:43:00Z")
> [@stiny1838](#): > > > [@someguy12121](#): > > > > AA guns in BFV don’t do enough damage and aren’t enough of a deterrent IMO. > > yep any time a plane notices aa firing they fly at it for the free kill. No they dont stop lying. ---
**Author:** ![mattd3162014](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mattd3162014/32/102761_2.png) [@mattd3162014](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mattd3162014)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 8:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/6 "2019-02-25T08:44:00Z")
> [@GloriousRepublic](#): > > Ya I agree but every pilots logic is learn to fly, problem solved. Sorry we all can’t be in planes. Some of us you know, take flags and do the grunt work. Actually we can just not at the same time.Noob logic it just killed me it must be OP! ---
**Author:** ![stiny1838](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/db5fbb/32.png) [@stiny1838](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stiny1838)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 8:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/7 "2019-02-25T08:58:00Z")
> [@mattd3162014](#): > > > [@stiny1838](#): > > > > > [@someguy12121](#): > > > > > > AA guns in BFV don’t do enough damage and aren’t enough of a deterrent IMO. > > > > yep any time a plane notices aa firing they fly at it for the free kill. > > No they dont stop lying. wtf just because you have not seen it does not make it a lie. several times on hamada one pilot camped our spawn killing anyone who touched the saa he was then joined by a 2nd bomber and they destroyed all tanks and maa that spawned there through the entire match. ---
**Author:** ![TennouHeikaBanza](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9f8e36/32.png) [@TennouHeikaBanza](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TennouHeikaBanza)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 9:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/8 "2019-02-25T09:27:00Z")
they just wanna keep doing like 60-3. how selfish and egoistic. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 9:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/9 "2019-02-25T09:28:00Z")
> [@stiny1838](#): > > > [@mattd3162014](#): > > > > > [@stiny1838](#): > > > > > > > [@someguy12121](#): > > > > > > > > AA guns in BFV don’t do enough damage and aren’t enough of a deterrent IMO. > > > > > > yep any time a plane notices aa firing they fly at it for the free kill. > > > > No they dont stop lying. > > wtf just because you have not seen it does not make it a lie. several times on hamada one pilot camped our spawn killing anyone who touched the saa he was then joined by a 2nd bomber and they destroyed all tanks and maa that spawned there through the entire match. What were your fighters doing? ---
**Author:** ![stiny1838](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/db5fbb/32.png) [@stiny1838](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stiny1838)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 9:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/10 "2019-02-25T09:30:00Z")
> [@Hawxxeye](#): > > > [@stiny1838](#): > > > > > [@mattd3162014](#): > > > > > > > [@stiny1838](#): > > > > > > > > > [@someguy12121](#): > > > > > > > > > > AA guns in BFV don’t do enough damage and aren’t enough of a deterrent IMO. > > > > > > > > yep any time a plane notices aa firing they fly at it for the free kill. > > > > > > No they dont stop lying. > > > > wtf just because you have not seen it does not make it a lie. several times on hamada one pilot camped our spawn killing anyone who touched the saa he was then joined by a 2nd bomber and they destroyed all tanks and maa that spawned there through the entire match. > > What were your fighters doing? we had no good pilots they weren’t in the air for long ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/11 "2019-02-25T10:07:00Z")
> [@stiny1838](#): > > > [@Hawxxeye](#): > > > > > [@stiny1838](#): > > > > > > > [@mattd3162014](#): > > > > > > > > > [@stiny1838](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@someguy12121](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > AA guns in BFV don’t do enough damage and aren’t enough of a deterrent IMO. > > > > > > > > > > yep any time a plane notices aa firing they fly at it for the free kill. > > > > > > > > No they dont stop lying. > > > > > > wtf just because you have not seen it does not make it a lie. several times on hamada one pilot camped our spawn killing anyone who touched the saa he was then joined by a 2nd bomber and they destroyed all tanks and maa that spawned there through the entire match. > > > > What were your fighters doing? > > we had no good pilots they weren’t in the air for long The thing with the fighters vs bombers now is that that even a creatin can take down a bomber with a fighter after the rear gun nerf. I have more or less accepted this relationship between planes and anti air in BFV: Fighters kill bombers, bombers kill AA, AA kills fighters (or it weakens them enough to give the bombers a chance). ---
**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/12 "2019-02-25T11:16:00Z")
> [@mattd3162014](#): > > > [@stiny1838](#): > > > > > [@someguy12121](#): > > > > > > AA guns in BFV don’t do enough damage and aren’t enough of a deterrent IMO. > > > > yep any time a plane notices aa firing they fly at it for the free kill. > > No they dont stop lying. Maybe not everyone but generally if I’m in a bomber I **love** SAA shooting at me as they’re such an easy target - I only fly away if I need to reload or I’m already damaged. The total opposite applies if I’m in a fighter though. Then it’s very much all about evading. ---
**Author:** ![Pro\_b0](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/35a633/32.png) [@Pro\_b0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pro_b0)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/13 "2019-02-25T12:03:00Z")
Against fighters the stationary aa is ok, but against bombers it’s suicide, regardless of how many shots you hit. Mobile AA are mostly useless now. The damage vs bombers is too low and the pilot needs to be terrible to bebrought down. Against fighters the damage is ok, but the shells fly so slow that you need to lead by almost a whole screen lenght agains fast moving targets. I thought the ground and air balance was good when the game launched. Planes were very powerful, but also quite vulnerable to AA fire. Many people just didn’t bother using AA and then complained about hwo strong the bombers were. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/14 "2019-02-25T12:55:00Z")
Imo SAA and MAA are fine but bombers need a tweak especially the JU88 and the Stuka. JU88 should have 8+2 bombs like the Belheim. The problem is always around the Ju88. B1 1000 kg bomb should require 2 hits against tanks. B2 need a nerf against other planes but more splash damage against infantry. Generel the bombers should have a lower speed to match the damage from the SAA/MAA. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/15 "2019-02-25T13:12:00Z")
> [@SirBobdk](#): > > Imo SAA and MAA are fine but bombers need a tweak especially the JU88 and the Stuka. > JU88 should have 8+2 bombs like the Belheim. The problem is always around the Ju88. > B1 1000 kg bomb should require 2 hits against tanks. > B2 need a nerf against other planes but more splash damage against infantry. > Generel the bombers should have a lower speed to match the damage from the SAA/MAA. what is the point of a 1000kg bomb if you give the tank enough time to fully repair between the reloads then. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/16 "2019-02-25T13:20:00Z")
> [@Hawxxeye](#): > > > [@SirBobdk](#): > > > > Imo SAA and MAA are fine but bombers need a tweak especially the JU88 and the Stuka. > > JU88 should have 8+2 bombs like the Belheim. The problem is always around the Ju88. > > B1 1000 kg bomb should require 2 hits against tanks. > > B2 need a nerf against other planes but more splash damage against infantry. > > Generel the bombers should have a lower speed to match the damage from the SAA/MAA. > > what is the point of a 1000kg bomb if you give the tank enough time to fully repair between the reloads then. The tank can’t fully repair unless it goes to an supply depot. Second bomb will kill it not matter how much it repairs. ---
**Author:** ![Kayback](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kayback/32/106842_2.png) [@Kayback](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kayback)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/17 "2019-02-25T13:28:00Z")
> [@SirBobdk](#): > > > [@Hawxxeye](#): > > > > > [@SirBobdk](#): > > > > > > Imo SAA and MAA are fine but bombers need a tweak especially the JU88 and the Stuka. > > > JU88 should have 8+2 bombs like the Belheim. The problem is always around the Ju88. > > > B1 1000 kg bomb should require 2 hits against tanks. > > > B2 need a nerf against other planes but more splash damage against infantry. > > > Generel the bombers should have a lower speed to match the damage from the SAA/MAA. > > > > what is the point of a 1000kg bomb if you give the tank enough time to fully repair between the reloads then. > > The tank can’t fully repair unless it goes to an supply depot. Second bomb will kill it not matter how much it repairs. A 1000kg bomb should ruin the day of whatever it hits. But it should take a while to reload. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/18 "2019-02-25T13:32:00Z")
> [@Kayback](#): > > > [@SirBobdk](#): > > > > > [@Hawxxeye](#): > > > > > > > [@SirBobdk](#): > > > > > > > > Imo SAA and MAA are fine but bombers need a tweak especially the JU88 and the Stuka. > > > > JU88 should have 8+2 bombs like the Belheim. The problem is always around the Ju88. > > > > B1 1000 kg bomb should require 2 hits against tanks. > > > > B2 need a nerf against other planes but more splash damage against infantry. > > > > Generel the bombers should have a lower speed to match the damage from the SAA/MAA. > > > > > > what is the point of a 1000kg bomb if you give the tank enough time to fully repair between the reloads then. > > > > The tank can’t fully repair unless it goes to an supply depot. Second bomb will kill it not matter how much it repairs. > > A 1000kg bomb should ruin the day of whatever it hits. But it should take a while to reload. Agree but imo It dont make any sense that the B1 is more effective in killing tanks than the B2 as a tank killer is. B1 should be an infantry ground attack plane and B2 a tank killer. Just like the GS and TH AP in BF1. ---
**Author:** ![gibonez](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gibonez/32/106712_2.png) [@gibonez](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/gibonez)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/19 "2019-02-25T13:50:00Z")
AA is fine against fighters and medium planes but its too weak against heavy bombers. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073/20 "2019-02-25T14:01:00Z")
> [@gibonez](#): > > AA is fine against fighters and medium planes but its too weak against heavy bombers. From an infantry point of view, I understand the desire to buff AA against bombers. But reality is that Bombers are flying coffins and they don’t survive for long. Bombers can hardly defend them self against fighters. Bombers don’t stand a chance against fighters and buffing the SAA against bombers may be to much. I would rather tweak the bombers ability to carpet bomb with the 3th bomb sight and give them less bomb load. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aas-need-a-major-buff/254073.md?page=2)