# Aeroplanes - Poll **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 20, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318 "2016-06-20T04:16:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![blackaddR](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/blackaddr/32/101355_2.png) [@blackaddR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/blackaddR)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/1 "2016-06-20T04:16:00Z")
With thanks to **RedCoolLight** for creating the poll, where would you like to see planes spawn? In the air? (BF4) Traditionally at a base? (BF2/BF3) Vote here: [http://www.strawpoll.me/10535293](http://www.strawpoll.me/10535293) See original thread here: [Planes just spawn in?! Wow dice](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/planes-just-spawn-in-wow-dice/101911) ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/2 "2016-06-20T04:26:00Z")
In the air. ---
**Author:** ![AnzacPete](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@AnzacPete](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AnzacPete)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/3 "2016-06-20T05:07:00Z")
On the ground ---
**Author:** ![redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/redzuluzulu0096)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/4 "2016-06-20T05:12:00Z")
On the ground. I enjoy taking off. The kept it for the choppers in BF4, they could have had landing strips for the aircraft. All they would need is hangers to help reduce baserape. Getting at them would require sacrificing yourself to the red zone. Of course you could still attack them as they taxi’d out, but you wouldn’t be able to strafe empty jets on the tarmac. ---
**Author:** ![blackaddR](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/blackaddr/32/101355_2.png) [@blackaddR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/blackaddR)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/5 "2016-06-20T10:14:00Z")
Or planes could have spawn protection for a small amount of time/reach a certain height ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/6 "2016-06-20T10:19:00Z")
I dont see any downside to spawning in the air. Too lazy to vote though. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Be\_Gone](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zombie_be_gone/32/104198_2.png) [@Zombie\_Be\_Gone](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zombie_Be_Gone)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/7 "2016-06-20T10:19:00Z")
I’m not sure why this has become a big deal when both spawning in the “Air” and on the “Ground” was already implemented in BF3 and BF4? I think depending on the map will be the ground or air take off. Many times I have come across servers where 4 Ace pilots have all the planes and then the map is broken. Op you are asking a question that has so much more depth that you are leaving out to your question. ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/8 "2016-06-20T10:22:00Z")
> [@Zombie\_Be\_Gone](#): > > Many times I have come across servers where 4 Ace pilots have all the planes and then the map is broken. I’ve never, ever seen that. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trokey66/32/103889_2.png) [@Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Trokey66)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/9 "2016-06-20T10:29:00Z")
> [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > I dont see any downside to spawning in the air. > > Too lazy to vote though. ---
**Author:** ![MLSHV](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@MLSHV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MLSHV)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/10 "2016-06-20T10:37:00Z")
> [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > [@Zombie\_Be\_Gone](#): > > > > Many times I have come across servers where 4 Ace pilots have all the planes and then the map is broken. > > I’ve never, ever seen that. Ever. I did. In BF3, not in BF4 thought. On rare occassions, of course ~ 20-30 times. ---
**Author:** ![PopoTooStronk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/popotoostronk/32/103149_2.png) [@PopoTooStronk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PopoTooStronk)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/11 "2016-06-20T10:40:00Z")
> [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > [@Zombie\_Be\_Gone](#): > > > > Many times I have come across servers where 4 Ace pilots have all the planes and then the map is broken. > > fhat. Ever. seems pretty much impossible for that to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/12 "2016-06-20T11:07:00Z")
> [@MLSHV](#): > > > [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > > > [@Zombie\_Be\_Gone](#): > > > > > > Many times I have come across servers where 4 Ace pilots have all the planes and then the map is broken. > > > > I’ve never, ever seen that. Ever. > > I did. In BF3, not in BF4 thought. On rare occassions, of course ~ 20-30 times. I had 1600 hours in BF3, never saw it. And I spent a lot of time on jet maps. Not saying you’re wrong, just surprises me. ---
**Author:** ![robkrush](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@robkrush](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/robkrush)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/13 "2016-06-20T11:23:00Z")
Why are there 3 choices and no “I dont care”? I thought the only two choices were ground or air? And why did you word the second choice “as usual” when even you admit usual in BF4 means in air; that creates bias in your poll. It doesn’t look like you are going to get ANY usful data due to poor wording and poor choices. Should have been: Where do you want planes to spawn? 1. In the air 2. On the ground 3. Dont care ---
**Author:** ![Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rotank)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/14 "2016-06-20T13:33:00Z")
Completely neutral on the subject. However, if spawning in the air the airspace needs to be much larger… More Paracel and less Dawnbreaker. ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/15 "2016-06-20T13:35:00Z")
> [@Rotank](#): > > Completely neutral on the subject. However, if spawning in the air the airspace needs to be much larger… More Paracel and less Dawnbreaker. Why? You take off from airstrips on firestorm and caspian yet the airspace is just as big as other maps where you spawn in the air. ---
**Author:** ![BrowneManStrikes](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@BrowneManStrikes](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BrowneManStrikes)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/16 "2016-06-20T13:36:00Z")
> [@Rotank](#): > > Completely neutral on the subject. However, if spawning in the air the airspace needs to be much larger… More Paracel and less Dawnbreaker. Just less Dawnbreaker generally would be nice… ---
**Author:** ![Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rotank)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/17 "2016-06-20T13:44:00Z")
> [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > [@Rotank](#): > > > > Completely neutral on the subject. However, if spawning in the air the airspace needs to be much larger… More Paracel and less Dawnbreaker. > > Why? You take off from airstrips on firestorm and caspian yet the airspace is just as big as other maps where you spawn in the air. I’m talking specifically about spawning in the air, though. Larger airspace in general is better, however on certain maps you spawn, in mid-flight, almost directly above your base and instantly thrust into the fray. On maps like Golmud and Lancang, if you don’t stall for time by circling or flanking around the outer edge, you are almost instantly engaged by enemy aircraft and ground fire. I like the time after spawning on Paracel to size up the Battlefield, pick an engagement, and not spawn in immediately visible to the entire battlefield as a target. Taking off from an airstrip can also help mitigate these factors. ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/18 "2016-06-20T13:53:00Z")
> [@Rotank](#): > > > [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > > > [@Rotank](#): > > > > > > Completely neutral on the subject. However, if spawning in the air the airspace needs to be much larger… More Paracel and less Dawnbreaker. > > > > Why? You take off from airstrips on firestorm and caspian yet the airspace is just as big as other maps where you spawn in the air. > > I’m talking specifically about spawning in the air, though. Larger airspace in general is better, however on certain maps you spawn, in mid-flight, almost directly above your base and instantly thrust into the fray. On maps like Golmud and Lancang, if you don’t stall for time by circling or flanking around the outer edge, you are almost instantly engaged by enemy aircraft and ground fire. I like the time after spawning on Paracel to size up the Battlefield, pick an engagement, and not spawn in immediately visible to the entire battlefield as a target. > > Taking off from an airstrip can also help mitigate these factors. I have many hours flight time in jets. Spending 30secs getting to the action on paracel is nothing more than a ballache. You are only “visible to the entire battlefield” when you spawn in IF the entire battlefield is looking 500 metres beyond the home base of whatever team you are on, 300 metres in the air. In other words its very unlikely anybody is looking at you when you spawn, exept maybe the enemy jet pilot that has your spawn time on his stopwatch. ---
**Author:** ![Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rotank)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/19 "2016-06-20T14:01:00Z")
> [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > [@Rotank](#): > > > > > [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > > > > > [@Rotank](#): > > > > > > > > Completely neutral on the subject. However, if spawning in the air the airspace needs to be much larger… More Paracel and less Dawnbreaker. > > > > > > Why? You take off from airstrips on firestorm and caspian yet the airspace is just as big as other maps where you spawn in the air. > > > > I’m talking specifically about spawning in the air, though. Larger airspace in general is better, however on certain maps you spawn, in mid-flight, almost directly above your base and instantly thrust into the fray. On maps like Golmud and Lancang, if you don’t stall for time by circling or flanking around the outer edge, you are almost instantly engaged by enemy aircraft and ground fire. I like the time after spawning on Paracel to size up the Battlefield, pick an engagement, and not spawn in immediately visible to the entire battlefield as a target. > > > > Taking off from an airstrip can also help mitigate these factors. > > I have many hours flight time in jets. Spending 30secs getting to the action on paracel is nothing more than a ballache. > > You are only “visible to the entire battlefield” when you spawn in IF the entire battlefield is looking 500 metres beyond the home base of whatever team you are on, 300 metres in the air. In other words its very unlikely anybody is looking at you when you spawn, exept maybe the enemy jet pilot that has your spawn time on his stopwatch. You’re entitled to your opinion, this is my personal preference. It doesn’t stop me from flying any map, just something that I’d like in lieu of taking off from an airstrip, which I also wouldn’t mind. I spent many hours flying jets in BF2, skipped BF3, and primarily fly in BF4. The spawn systems each worked in their own ways, but of course I have my own personal preferences with how they’re implemented. ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318/20 "2016-06-20T14:04:00Z")
> [@Rotank](#): > > > [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > > > [@Rotank](#): > > > > > > > [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Rotank](#): > > > > > > > > > > Completely neutral on the subject. However, if spawning in the air the airspace needs to be much larger… More Paracel and less Dawnbreaker. > > > > > > > > Why? You take off from airstrips on firestorm and caspian yet the airspace is just as big as other maps where you spawn in the air. > > > > > > I’m talking specifically about spawning in the air, though. Larger airspace in general is better, however on certain maps you spawn, in mid-flight, almost directly above your base and instantly thrust into the fray. On maps like Golmud and Lancang, if you don’t stall for time by circling or flanking around the outer edge, you are almost instantly engaged by enemy aircraft and ground fire. I like the time after spawning on Paracel to size up the Battlefield, pick an engagement, and not spawn in immediately visible to the entire battlefield as a target. > > > > > > Taking off from an airstrip can also help mitigate these factors. > > > > I have many hours flight time in jets. Spending 30secs getting to the action on paracel is nothing more than a ballache. > > > > You are only “visible to the entire battlefield” when you spawn in IF the entire battlefield is looking 500 metres beyond the home base of whatever team you are on, 300 metres in the air. In other words its very unlikely anybody is looking at you when you spawn, exept maybe the enemy jet pilot that has your spawn time on his stopwatch. > > You’re entitled to your opinion, this is my personal preference. It doesn’t stop me from flying any map, just something that I’d like in lieu of taking off from an airstrip, which I also wouldn’t mind. I spent many hours flying jets in BF2, skipped BF3, and primarily fly in BF4. The spawn systems each worked in their own ways, but of course I have my own personal preferences with how they’re implemented. In BF3, if you lost a close fought dogfight you could almost guarantee the enemy pilot would be waiting to light up your jet as soon as it spawns on the runway, giving you no chance to take off. It was awful. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aeroplanes-poll/102318.md?page=2)