# AI Bots

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 22, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469 "2016-05-22T03:09:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![GoodKill47](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/goodkill47/32/102090_2.png) [@GoodKill47](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GoodKill47)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/1 "2016-05-22T03:09:00Z")

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BF 1942, BF Vietnam, and BF 2 (after some patching and modding) had full AI support. The installments after that inexplicably dropped AI support and consequently offer insultingly little value for those of us that don’t play with internet randoms. It doesn’t matter how much money is put into the production of a movie-like campaign, that alone will never be enough to justify the $60 USD price tag. Especially not the slipshod, ham-fisted campaigns that DICE makes. The offline play and replay value is inferior to even the leanest multiplayer games with simple bot support.

Even freakin’ Call of Duty has offline bots and they’ve been doing it since 2010. If DICE needs examples of bot support done right, they need not look any further than Garden Warfare 2 and the original Battlefield games.

No AI, no buy.

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**Author:** ![quicktiger](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/58f4c7/32.png) [@quicktiger](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/quicktiger)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/2 "2016-05-22T03:17:00Z")

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I agree it shouldn’t be hard for them to implement either. Just use the same maps as multiplayer and put some bots (could use AI from singleplayer).

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**Author:** ![Lazise789](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lazise789/32/102614_2.png) [@Lazise789](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lazise789)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/3 "2016-05-22T03:19:00Z")

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It would be great to see, I for one would love it but I doubt it.

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**Author:** ![jeffmasman](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jeffmasman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jeffmasman)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/4 "2016-05-22T03:45:00Z")

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Yeah they need to have bots that actually work too, otherwise survival and/or offline multiplayer.

Plus added AI in multiplayer would be cool to have less open areas, and feel like how crowded WW1 actually was

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**Author:** ![GoodKill47](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/goodkill47/32/102090_2.png) [@GoodKill47](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GoodKill47)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/5 "2016-05-22T03:48:00Z")

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> [@quicktiger](#):
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> I agree it shouldn’t be hard for them to implement either. Just use the same maps as multiplayer and put some bots (could use AI from singleplayer).

They existed in BF4 test servers, albeit they weren’t programmed to play well. Most of the basic infrastructure is already there.

[![Video: BOTS IN BF4 - Battlefield 4](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/8/e80339f4b7d8b48532586d00e97ab25439e5bed4.jpeg "BOTS IN BF4 - Battlefield 4") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGYjggjUNK0)

[![Video: PLAYING AGAINST BOTS IN BATTLEFIELD 4 (Gameplay)](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/7/5/75ae81b756b058b2eb38ddd0dd899b8f41cbd277.jpeg "PLAYING AGAINST BOTS IN BATTLEFIELD 4 (Gameplay)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSQFfjc8Kn0)

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**Author:** ![Lazise789](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lazise789/32/102614_2.png) [@Lazise789](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lazise789)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/6 "2016-05-22T04:11:00Z")

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Wow, So it’s possible then?

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**Author:** ![Thorvall95](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Thorvall95](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Thorvall95)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/7 "2016-05-22T04:22:00Z")

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Yes please! more single player content 🙂

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**Author:** ![GoodKill47](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/goodkill47/32/102090_2.png) [@GoodKill47](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GoodKill47)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/8 "2016-05-22T04:37:00Z")

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Battlefield 3 and Battlefront had 2-player co-op modes. I don’t know if anyone still remembers that. They were poorly designed, but functional.

Back to the topic, I want to emphasize that offline/solo players should be able to progress and unlock everything that online players can. Everything. All of it. Even vanity items. I know some will disagree with that idea but before you object, read this article. Tom Chick explains why better than I ever could.

[http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2016/03/01/plants-vs-zombies-2-isnt-just-a-great-game-its-a-long-awaited-revolution/](http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2016/03/01/plants-vs-zombies-2-isnt-just-a-great-game-its-a-long-awaited-revolution/)

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**Author:** ![Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/peccath/32/103094_2.png) [@Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Peccath)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 9:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/9 "2016-05-24T09:24:00Z")

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Offline bots in multiplayer maps would be awesome. Make it even better with splitscreen co-op! And why not up-to 4-player co-op over internet where one player hosts the server.

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**Author:** ![Brentlostak](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/brentlostak/32/101414_2.png) [@Brentlostak](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Brentlostak)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 9:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/10 "2016-05-24T09:27:00Z")

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> [@Peccath](#):
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> Offline bots in multiplayer maps would be awesome. Make it even better with splitscreen co-op! And why not up-to 4-player co-op over internet where one player hosts the server.

I agree on the Co op 4 players, but no splitscreen. And yes please on the AI bots where you can pratice like with the test range but then added with AI bots on different difficulties.

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**Author:** ![Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/peccath/32/103094_2.png) [@Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Peccath)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/11 "2016-05-24T15:33:00Z")

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> [@Brentlostak](#):
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> > [@Peccath](#):
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> > Offline bots in multiplayer maps would be awesome. Make it even better with splitscreen co-op! And why not up-to 4-player co-op over internet where one player hosts the server.
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> I agree on the Co op 4 players, but no splitscreen. And yes please on the AI bots where you can pratice like with the test range but then added with AI bots on different difficulties.

Why are you against split screen? What would it hurt?

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**Author:** ![cweberling](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@cweberling](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/cweberling)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/12 "2016-05-24T15:40:00Z")

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I would love a game mode with co-op bots. Maybe something wave based that gets progressively harder. Some kind of co-op is always a nice addition to any game.

I would also LOVE to have some kind of split screen. I miss being able to play “casual” co-op FPS games with my friends that might not be super into video games but still would play some with me if they didn’t have to spend $500 to play.

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**Author:** ![Brentlostak](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/brentlostak/32/101414_2.png) [@Brentlostak](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Brentlostak)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/13 "2016-05-24T16:15:00Z")

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> [@Peccath](#):
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> > [@Brentlostak](#):
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> > > [@Peccath](#):
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> > > Offline bots in multiplayer maps would be awesome. Make it even better with splitscreen co-op! And why not up-to 4-player co-op over internet where one player hosts the server.
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> > I agree on the Co op 4 players, but no splitscreen. And yes please on the AI bots where you can pratice like with the test range but then added with AI bots on different difficulties.
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> Why are you against split screen? What would it hurt?

Co op online with friends is more fun then co op with 2 at home. and have fights over who didn’t his job !!

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**Author:** ![Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/peccath/32/103094_2.png) [@Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Peccath)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/14 "2016-05-24T19:58:00Z")

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> [@Brentlostak](#):
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> > [@Peccath](#):
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> > > > Offline bots in multiplayer maps would be awesome. Make it even better with splitscreen co-op! And why not up-to 4-player co-op over internet where one player hosts the server.
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> > > I agree on the Co op 4 players, but no splitscreen. And yes please on the AI bots where you can pratice like with the test range but then added with AI bots on different difficulties.
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> > Why are you against split screen? What would it hurt?
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> Co op online with friends is more fun then co op with 2 at home. and have fights over who didn’t his job !!

But having BOTH options is still better 🙂

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**Author:** ![jeffmasman](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jeffmasman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jeffmasman)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/15 "2016-05-24T20:01:00Z")

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> [@Brentlostak](#):
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> > [@Peccath](#):
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> > > > Offline bots in multiplayer maps would be awesome. Make it even better with splitscreen co-op! And why not up-to 4-player co-op over internet where one player hosts the server.
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> > > I agree on the Co op 4 players, but no splitscreen. And yes please on the AI bots where you can pratice like with the test range but then added with AI bots on different difficulties.
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> > Why are you against split screen? What would it hurt?
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> Co op online with friends is more fun then co op with 2 at home. and have fights over who didn’t his job !!

Plus, I have friends that don’t have an Xbox, so playing with them when they’re over my house is the only option to play together. Split screen needs to happen

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**Author:** ![GoodKill47](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/goodkill47/32/102090_2.png) [@GoodKill47](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GoodKill47)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/16 "2016-05-24T20:49:00Z")

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> [@cweberling](#):
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> I would love a game mode with co-op bots. Maybe something wave based that gets progressively harder. Some kind of co-op is always a nice addition to any game.
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> I would also LOVE to have some kind of split screen. I miss being able to play “casual” co-op FPS games with my friends that might not be super into video games but still would play some with me if they didn’t have to spend $500 to play.

More gameplay options, the merrier. I can imagine Rush being adapted for horde mode play.

There should be splitscreen on console as well as PC. Lower the frame rate and graphics in splitscreen if it has to be done, just make it happen.

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**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/17 "2016-05-24T21:20:00Z")

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BF Vietnam had awesome bot support. How smart/aggressive they were was dependent on how much cpu you allotted them. Some of our BFV: PoE mod servers ran bots as seeders. As players joined they took the place of bots. The bots also used every vehicle.

Here’s some bot play. I used them to help highlight PoE vehicles.

[![Video: BFV PoE mixed vehicle](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/4/7/47a138d68a3cdc0e365b9ff69548f6d1c2dc6a7d.jpeg "BFV PoE mixed vehicle") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6JomZYqp1g)

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**Author:** ![smys123](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@smys123](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/smys123)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ai-bots/101469/18 "2016-05-24T21:23:00Z")

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> [@jeffmasman](#):
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> Plus, I have friends that don’t have an Xbox, so playing with them when they’re over my house is the only option to play together. Split screen needs to happen

Could be fixed also with cross-platform play, which is my vote. I think Gears of War (newest coming out) is the only game for xb1 that has ability to play LAN games via system link - it is not even in Halo anymore, sad sad
