# Aircraft in BF1: I'm excited about this **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 12, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175 "2016-05-12T03:11:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/1 "2016-05-12T03:11:00Z")
I’m actually excited about aircraft being in BF1. I’m expecting that aircraft will be slower and fly lower than their BF4 counterparts. As a result, I think BF1 aircraft will be a more integral part of ground combat than their BF4 counterparts. While there will still be dogfights among aircraft, I think aircraft will play a more pivotal role in ground warfare than their BF4 counterparts ever did. How important do you think aircraft will be in BF1? ---
**Author:** ![Zee\_Ace](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/e8c25b/32.png) [@Zee\_Ace](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zee_Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/2 "2016-05-12T03:19:00Z")
Well the bi and tri planes will be major air superiority. But the zeplins will be the air to ground forces. Sounds like it should be a good mix. ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/3 "2016-05-12T03:21:00Z")
> [@Zee\_Ace](#): > > Well the bi and tri planes will be major air superiority. But the zeplins will be the air to ground forces. Sounds like it should be a good mix. I think with a lower flight ceiling and slower air speeds, aircraft will have a major impact on ground ops but will be just as susceptible to ground-based fire as well. This will be great for gameplay reasons since there are probably no weapon lock-ons in BF1. ---
**Author:** ![bf1helicopter](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bf1helicopter](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bf1helicopter)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/4 "2016-05-12T03:41:00Z")
Everything is important in battlefield. Planes should keep enemy planes in check. Ground troops help by using the stationary aa. Tanks will be tansporting troops past enemy lines with style. Still waiting for dice to confirm helicopters ---
**Author:** ![Zee\_Ace](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/e8c25b/32.png) [@Zee\_Ace](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zee_Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/5 "2016-05-12T03:46:00Z")
> [@bf1helicopter](#): > > Everything is important in battlefield. Planes should keep enemy planes in check. Ground troops help by using the stationary aa. Tanks will be tansporting troops past enemy lines with style. Still waiting for dice to confirm helicopters I highly doubt there will be helis. Military helis wernt really use until after 1939 ---
**Author:** ![xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/779978/32.png) [@xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXRambotigerXx)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/6 "2016-05-12T03:49:00Z")
I’m pumped as well for the aircraft and all the dogfights but as I’ve stated earlier I think there shouldn’t be too much air to ground combat. The planes then were weak and didn’t have any protection. I feel like if they were to attack ground forces they would get rekt. Now I believe you should be able to, don’t get me wrong and the MG’s they have will probably tear through soldiers. But the catch is, if you can attack ground forces, you should be able to take some heavy damage too. There wasn’t too much air to ground combat in WW1 (excluding bombs) so it only makes sense IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/7 "2016-05-12T04:50:00Z")
> [@xXRambotigerXx](#): > > I’m pumped as well for the aircraft and all the dogfights but as I’ve stated earlier I think there shouldn’t be too much air to ground combat. The planes then were weak and didn’t have any protection. I feel like if they were to attack ground forces they would get rekt. Now I believe you should be able to, don’t get me wrong and the MG’s they have will probably tear through soldiers. But the catch is, if you can attack ground forces, you should be able to take some heavy damage too. There wasn’t too much air to ground combat in WW1 (excluding bombs) so it only makes sense IMO. Good points. If there’s one thing about DICE and BF though, it’s that they don’t let realism stand in the way of gameplay and fun. If they did, then BF4 wouldn’t have parachutes that magically repack themselves after jumping from a high elevation or magical defibrillators that resurrect those shot dead. As a result, I think we’ll find the BF1 WW1 airplanes to be tough enough to strafe and attack ground forces (but not so tough that they dominate land forces with impunity). ---
**Author:** ![xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/779978/32.png) [@xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXRambotigerXx)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 4:54am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/8 "2016-05-12T04:54:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > Good points. If there’s one thing about DICE and BF though, it’s that they don’t let realism stand in the way of gameplay and fun. > > If they did, then BF4 wouldn’t have parachutes that magically repack themselves after jumping from a high elevation or magical defibrillators that resurrect those shot dead. > > As a result, I think we’ll find the BF1 WW1 airplanes to be tough enough to strafe and attack ground forces (but not so tough that they dominate land forces with impunity). Agreed. I’d be alright with strafe runs but no strictly air to ground tactics. Just wouldn’t be fair to ground forces being chopped up all the time. So hopefully the planes are strong but not too strong ya know? ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/9 "2016-05-12T04:59:00Z")
> [@xXRambotigerXx](#): > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > Good points. If there’s one thing about DICE and BF though, it’s that they don’t let realism stand in the way of gameplay and fun. > > > > If they did, then BF4 wouldn’t have parachutes that magically repack themselves after jumping from a high elevation or magical defibrillators that resurrect those shot dead. > > > > As a result, I think we’ll find the BF1 WW1 airplanes to be tough enough to strafe and attack ground forces (but not so tough that they dominate land forces with impunity). > > Agreed. I’d be alright with strafe runs but no strictly air to ground tactics. Just wouldn’t be fair to ground forces being chopped up all the time. So hopefully the planes are strong but not too strong ya know? Yep, that’s why the ground forces will have enough AA options to deter AND destroy enemy aircraft, but not too strong to dominate aircraft with impunity. It’ll be a fine line to balance but much easier for DICE to do since the number of aircraft on any given map is fixed. The aircraft / ground force gameplay balance was near impossible for SOE to balance for Planetside 2 because there was no telling how many aircraft would show up to a battle. ---
**Author:** ![xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/779978/32.png) [@xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXRambotigerXx)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/10 "2016-05-12T05:04:00Z")
I would actually like it if even in normal mode, that small arms fire could potentially down a plane. Maybe not from ridiculous ranges and heights but if they were low enough. That would just make it so much better for me. I’ve sniped a lot of people out of helis in BF4 (in hardcore) and I’d like to see some of that brought to BF1. Only makes sense to me. Like we and others know, planes were much weaker then and somewhat flimsy. Now I’m not saying bring hardcore to normal mode, but just let them pilots know like “hey, don’t fly down here. Nuff of that” Lol ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/11 "2016-05-12T05:11:00Z")
> [@xXRambotigerXx](#): > > I would actually like it if even in normal mode, that small arms fire could potentially down a plane. Maybe not from ridiculous ranges and heights but if they were low enough. That would just make it so much better for me. I’ve sniped a lot of people out of helis in BF4 (in hardcore) and I’d like to see some of that brought to BF1. Only makes sense to me. Like we and others know, planes were much weaker then and somewhat flimsy. Now I’m not saying bring hardcore to normal mode, but just let them pilots know like “hey, don’t fly down here. Nuff of that” Lol I do as well and I think we may get our wish! Remember that in BFHL and SWBF, small arms fire could destroy cars and starfighters respectively. Of course, you needed a couple of infantry to do the firing but it was more possible than not to destroy vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/779978/32.png) [@xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXRambotigerXx)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/12 "2016-05-12T05:16:00Z")
Oh for sure. And hopefully! Maybe we’ll meet up on the Battlefield sometime. We’ll fly a two seater plane and terrorize ground forces until we’re shot down hahah ---
**Author:** ![bf1helicopter](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bf1helicopter](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bf1helicopter)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/13 "2016-05-12T05:16:00Z")
> [@xXRambotigerXx](#): > > I would actually like it if even in normal mode, that small arms fire could potentially down a plane. Maybe not from ridiculous ranges and heights but if they were low enough. That would just make it so much better for me. I’ve sniped a lot of people out of helis in BF4 (in hardcore) and I’d like to see some of that brought to BF1. Only makes sense to me. Like we and others know, planes were much weaker then and somewhat flimsy. Now I’m not saying bring hardcore to normal mode, but just let them pilots know like “hey, don’t fly down here. Nuff of that” Lol Yes imo For example an average smg or lmg should be able to bring down a plane similar to the way BF4 little bird 25mm can bring down jet or other heli ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/14 "2016-05-12T05:18:00Z")
> [@xXRambotigerXx](#): > > Oh for sure. And hopefully! Maybe we’ll meet up on the Battlefield sometime. We’ll fly a two seater plane and terrorize ground forces until we’re shot down hahah I was just thinking about 2-seater airplanes in BF1, where both the pilot and back gunner can fire their weapons simultaneously. That would be so much fun to attack both enemy aircraft AND ground forces simultaneously (pilot shoots ground forces while back gunner keeps enemy aircraft at bay)! See you on the Battlefield (1)! ---
**Author:** ![xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/779978/32.png) [@xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXRambotigerXx)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/15 "2016-05-12T05:18:00Z")
> [@bf1helicopter](#): > > Yes imo For example an average smg or lmg should be able to bring down a plane similar to the way BF4 little bird 25mm can bring down jet or other heli Indeed. It’ll be interesting to see how they implement it. Now I’m not saying a magazine should bring down a plane either but the pilots should definitely feel it. ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/16 "2016-05-12T05:19:00Z")
> [@xXRambotigerXx](#): > > Indeed. It’ll be interesting to see how they implement it. Now I’m not saying a magazine should bring down a plane either but the pilots should definitely feel it. Yes, I certainly hope it takes more than 1 mag of small arms to take down aircraft. More like 2 or even 3 mags at the very least LOL. ---
**Author:** ![bf1helicopter](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bf1helicopter](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bf1helicopter)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/17 "2016-05-12T05:25:00Z")
If every single bullet hit, 2 mag. More likely takes 3. This seems fair to me. We will see in the beta. Also they said something about critical parts. Aim for the wing or tail and it could spin out of control ---
**Author:** ![Avarik](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/avarik/32/101251_2.png) [@Avarik](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Avarik)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/18 "2016-05-12T05:29:00Z")
> [@xXRambotigerXx](#): > > Indeed. It’ll be interesting to see how they implement it. Now I’m not saying a magazine should bring down a plane either but the pilots should definitely feel it. The pilot could probably “Feel it” even in modern days…it’s just that in comparison to today’s airplanes and that of world war 2, world war 1 aircrafts left the pilot far more exposed. Couple that with the low air speeds, you could actually perform a dogfight with another aircraft while both you and your opponent fire at each other with hand guns…as a matter of fact, that’s how it all started early in WW1 when reconnaissance aircrafts started to fire at each other, in a nutshell. ---
**Author:** ![xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/779978/32.png) [@xXRambotigerXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXRambotigerXx)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 5:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/19 "2016-05-12T05:31:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > Yes, I certainly hope it takes more than 1 mag of small arms to take down aircraft. More like 2 or even 3 mags at the very least LOL. Agreed. And if there’s multiple teammates shooting at the target, it should definitely take some heavy damage, if it isn’t already downed. Either way I imagine they’ve done their research and hopefully we’ll get our wish. But back to your main question about how important aircraft will be. I honestly don’t know. Because in reality the ground forces weren’t bothered too much. But maybe controlling the air can save troops from bombing runs or to scout enemy positions. I recently watched a documentary on WW1 aircraft and that was their sole purpose in the early years of the war. It was to scout enemy trenches, command centers, etc and would take photographs. Later, some planes were equipped with morse code on the sides to report what they saw to command. So hopefully that is put into the game as well. That’d be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![69GTOJudge](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/6/57b2e6/32.png) [@69GTOJudge](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/69GTOJudge)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 6:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175/20 "2016-05-12T06:10:00Z")
> [@bf1helicopter](#): > > Everything is important in battlefield. Planes should keep enemy planes in check. Ground troops help by using the stationary aa. Tanks will be tansporting troops past enemy lines with style. Still waiting for dice to confirm helicopters Helicopters, in WW1? Whatsamadda wit you?!?! [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/aircraft-in-bf1-im-excited-about-this/101175.md?page=2)