All conquest maps need to have AA and LOTS of it.

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There’s enough AA on all the maps to deal with airplanes.

@DivineBaal - Step #1 for you should be actually getting into a plane and understanding how air combat works, before you start complaining about what’s wrong.

Bingo.
I don’t Stat bash unless their are those suggesting balance on something they know nothing about.

Do you say the same about a guy that has never used stationary AA but wanted it nerfed, and still tells others how powerful it is.

For me AA is almost most useless now, the so called tough map Monte Grappa, I spent about 10 minutes flying around the mountain in a fighter attacking and destroying the Airship, helping with destroying 3 planes, doing a couple of ground attacks. I would have gone longer if I did not hit E by mistake. I have been told by so called better pilots that I am rubbish.

Wow what an amazing OP experience in a plane you had. You flew for 10 minutes while their Airship was up. Meaning your team was focused on using the AA against it and the enemy team has less reason to use the AA because the Airship is up. Wow man, amazing plane OP experience.

I use the AA plenty, pre-patch and post patch. It is far from useless. Are you even hitting planes with it? It kills attack and fighter planes in one salvo before overheating. Like how does that make it useless? The range wasn’t even changed on the stationary ones.

So your saying it was a bad team because

1. They did not use their 3 planes.
2. No one switched to the AA Truck to counter my teams Aircrafts
3. They did not use Stationary AA to protect their Airship
4. They did not use the Airship AA.

You would be wrong 1,3 and 4, maybe they could not aim straight or just every time I was hit I was able to make it out of range behind cover and repair.

Basically, yeah. The enemy Airship was up so they had less incentive to use the AA. That’s what always happens. On top of that, if they had the Airship, then your team was clearly winning which means holding more objectives. Which then means your team had greater control of the AA turrets. How is this hard to understand?

If you think planes are OP because you were able to fly around being mildly effective for 10 minutes that’s just stupid. They probably only had access to objective A’s AA or the spawn AA. The Airship was probably over B/D/C so the AA they did have access to was barely able to reach you. What a surprise you flew around for a bit and did plane things! Truly amazing!

According to some AA from A or E reach across the entire map and only takes 5s to destroy a fighter. When the Airship spawn they had B,D,E but I will rule out B as it was still being contested, that left us with A and C.

I said I flew around the mountain which means I passed near E and along side D, I took plenty of Fire at times but never enough.

I never said that planes where OP because of this 1 experience, I said AA is useless and gave an example.

Then we just have to agree to disagree because I’ve used AA emplacements and the truck to great effect after the patch.

You think it’s useless from one example. I don’t think it’s useless from many examples of my own experience.

Just because you didn’t get shotdown for 10 minutes while the enemy Airship was up doesn’t make AA “useless”. Especially if the enemy was busy shooting at your Airship. Your example on why AA is “useless” is absolutely worthless and terrible. Sorry. Just a really bad example.

I gave a example, there are many others and reason.

Just a few post above we have person saying AA should not kill and that if it does 50% I just get out of range, so much for that hard counter.

It was not our teams airship. There we have it, if you tick the box and they don’t like what they hear they be little. What afraid of example of AA being useless on conquest.

Did you even read his post? He said he ends up under 50% while trying his best to avoid it and not get hit… If the plane cant kill other planes or ground targets because of AA damage, how exactly is that NOT being an effective counter? Anytime you shoot at a plane with AA it should be destroyed near instantly? What exactly do you want?

I know it was not your teams Airship. My post says so. Are you having a hard time reading or something?

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@TickTak77

There’s enough AA on all the maps to deal with airplanes.

I respectfully disagree. There is one map that usually has a lack of AA.
The Sinai desert map has AA only on the in the 3 bases that are in the middle of the map (C, D and G). A total 4 of them if I recall.
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In my personal experience all of them tend to get destroyed quite fast either by a ground fight or by bombers. One of the 2 AAs at G can in fact be destroyed permanently if someone demolishes the building that it is on.
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So often this map turns into what I call “Pilot’s Safe Space” where a decent bomber with a decent tailgunner is almost unchallenged.
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The only counters right now in Sinai there are a good trench bomber pilot or someone who manages to snatch a vehicle slot from the tank for an AA truck.
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I say that as someone who is both decent at flying in bombers and at destroying them from the ground https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf1/profile/pc/Hawxxeye/vehicles (as well at bombing AAs)

Agreed.

Some Conquest maps need some AA adjustment, Sinai is definitely one of them.