Are EA ever gonna do anything about the Japanese

if you buy hardline your asking for more of the same if you ask me , i just got off metro full of japan players one went 71 and 8 and he was a level 18 with a 9 k/d.and the lowest score in the group hahaha !! absurd , all these japan players must think there the sh$t running around with there 12 k/ds lmao im about done with battlefield its getting worse by the day ,

whens the last time anyone has seen a level 18 with a 9 kd in any battlefield game ??? THERES A PROBLEM !!!

If they are all running assault and revive each other, it isn’t out of the question, especially on metro.

And it is probably a second or 3rd account .

OOR players dominate. was playing a server for about 2 hours no issue. No lag, no rubberbanding, no bullet sponges. then these 2 NZ players joined and server went to crap…It’s not fair that my experience is ruined because of others!

same ole song and dance, Ping exploitation is cheating and EA allowing it to happen

It’s never gonna change. EA is too cheap to run servers in all regions. Played last night against some Canadians, they were OSKing everyone, seriously hitting people around the corner and through walls. They are the Brazilians of the North, in my opinion, but hey they don’t have their own servers so what you gonna do?

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Even if they had servers in all regions, it wouldn’t matter. Jap players in US servers is a perfect example . . . People are clearly using out of region as an advantage.

I used to play MP PC games like Far Cry, BF2, BF2142, CoD 2, Crysis etc… In those games, servers either had ping limits or your out of region experience sucked so bad you didn’t play out of region.

BF4 screwed the pooch on how they handle high ping players. Call it lag compensation, net code or jiggy joggedy doo . . . same crap, different names for a clear FN problem that EA simply doesn’t care about or doesn’t know how to fix.

But thankfully, I’ve got plenty of 25% boosts and a buttload of knife skins, so clearly, EA has the big picture in mind /endsarcasmfont

Here’s an idea, and I know it’s pretty wild . . . EA devs need to actually play the game on console from time to time. I mean, I know they can’t afford X1’s or PS4’s, but maybe they could group together and buy one? I’m sure the internet is free in mommie’s basement anyway . . .

And yet we don’t have high ping,bellow 50 on every servers for me on east us,maybe he was playing in a igloo in Nunavut.

im on west coast , and stick to west servers i lag in east servers and its absurd bad in OOR servers , and my isp is maxed at a 105 download with a top of line router , but this is really pissing me off ,

The better your connection the worse your experience will be, plain and simple. Especially if the recommended minimum to play this game is less than a tenth of that.
I have 10 down and anywhere between 2.5 to 5 up, and have no problems until early evenings. But I’m wireless right now, with the same speed as hard wired.

Why we can’t see the ping of the player, seeing bad ping when we join would make me decide; do I waste my time here or do I go look in other server, the thing is now, we don’t have anything that pin point our bad experience. Are we just blaming the Japanese or brazilians? or is it player with bad ping ? Please Dice look at this give us at least a tool where we can judge if this server is bad or not. We can’t use your test as it is really inaccurate, still I’m lagging and my test show it’s fine.

Agreed however, no one will answer a simple question: Why does it not work both ways? I have never had any obvious advantage when testing playing OOR. I can hop on Asia just as easy as they can jump on ours. I do not see any Americans over there going “71-8” in a gun play only mode.

ps. anyone who thinks such scores to be legit is simply an idiot or in a serious state of denial on the issue.

agreed or any level 18 with a 9 k/d lol and that metro map , was a high ticket server hell they guy was probally a level 10 at the start of the match , lolol

This is not an internet problem its “Ping exploitation” which is considered by EA and gaming community as cheating.

You would be surprised at the kind of scores you can get when you play with a squad of the same friends, same map, and using teamwork on any map, especially on metro. But I also won’t say there aren’t advantages for those OOR. All I can comment on is my experience and what other people I play with have said. I am on west coast. West coast servers are horrible for me. I have a couple in my favorites but rarely am on them. East coast servers play the best for me and that is what we primary play on. As to your comment about it doesn’t go both ways…It does and doesn’t (for me). I noticed playing in EU or Asian servers, it seemed to take an extra bullet to kill them as opposed to in US servers, but no rubberbanding, while at that time, the US rubberbanded like crazy.

PS… Spectator mode is a wonderful tool to see how other players play this game. Try watching these OOR lag advantage players who get good scores and take ace squad just about every time. Then possibly see how scores like that are possible, even playing in your own region.

PSS… I do have those instant deaths and WTF moments too. I also realize the game has issues, but is still fun as hell when playing with a group all on party chat working together.

Oh, and I know what you mean about ping exploitation, I am on the same page with you there.

playing with a squad friends yes i agree , but at best over time 3 to 4 k/d is GREAT !! these guys have 7 and 8 and 9 k/ds powning people , ive seen both sides of the lag and theres bad lag and god lag , and 00R players have god lag, multi kills left and right with a 500% defense perk !!

Playing with your friends does not equate to 71-8 and you know it. The game is broken, unbalanced an exploited. That does not take away any fun you may have with it nor would I but don’t be a fool. Watching someone means nothing. What you see is completely different from what the other person sees. I tested this as well with people you know. What seems to be a OHK on your screen was actually 1/2 a clip on mine. Playing OOR for us in the states may afford the “occasional” 1-2 bullets of extra reaction time but it does NOT allow us to go 40-60+ and 1-5- over and over and over again. Broken, unbalanced an exploited. End of story.

It’s obvious it is a second account for them. Playing metro like that all of the time. He probably died a lot more than that but kept getting revived.
As far as the ‘advantage’ goes, I don’t deny that it has been acknowledged. But it isn’t all from playing OOR just like it isn’t all skill as the other thread seems to elude to.

Those scores can be legit. High tickets server, easy. I have gone 40-1 on a normal ticket metro while playing in region. So don’t say it is ALL from high ping OOR.

Had this conversation on twitter about Hardline and they admit there is a problem with High Ping players in BF4

@dirtydeathdog Will there be any changes to how the servers are compared to BF4 on console? ie ping lock etc

@WarthogAlpha it’s a thorny problem. not for launch, no.

@dirtydeathdog So we have to put up with poor servers like we do on BF4 then?

@WarthogAlpha we hope to improve in every aspect we can. if there are targeted changes we can make to improve the experience, we will

@dirtydeathdog To put it this way. Im trying to play on Euro servers on the PS4 now but as many Japanese are in there it lags so much.

@dirtydeathdog You may want to watch this as to how high ping players are effecting us currently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L-7CPGOAv4

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@WarthogAlpha we’ve made changes to improve the experience for low ping vs. high pingers - used to be that high ping got the advantage

@WarthogAlpha not so much anymore

@dirtydeathdog Thats good to hear because at the moment high ping players are ruining it for everyone else

Did I read GTA 5 plays flawless cpmpared to BF4? loool the load times for GTA online is ridiculously slow and it gets way laggier than any other game I play.