# Are famous battlefield YouTubers ruining the franchise? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 4, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406 "2016-07-04T13:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SyfruitCamelia](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/syfruitcamelia/32/103674_2.png) [@SyfruitCamelia](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SyfruitCamelia)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/21 "2016-07-04T21:33:00Z")
> [@Sno0bs](#): > > > [@SyfruitCamelia](#): > > > > > [@TacticulBadger](#): > > > > > > How exactly did they ruin anything again? Because they make youtube videos and Dice decided to let them play their games and leave feedback for marketing purposes? > > > > > > Sounds to me like there’s a bunch of losers here who don’t like the fact that people can be relatively successful by playing video games. > > > > they ruin market perception > > > > the vast majority of battlefield players listen to the advice of bad players who spout misinformation, and as a result skew the statistical data that the devs get with their horrible gameplay > > > > the truth is that none of those “pro” youtubers even play on servers against 140s > > Lucky enough you dont have to be pro at a video game to break trough on Youtube or Twitch or what ever else, you need to be entertaiming and give your opinion on the games mechanics and alot off youtubers and streamers are doing a great job providing how little info they have to work with at the moment. > > Alot is going on in BF1 dev, of course there will be misinformation its alpha/beta season at the moment. > > Hell there will be a ton misinformation during the first few weeks of release aswell as everyone is discovering the full games arsenal. it’s not about being “pro” it’s about not pretending you’re good it’s about playing battlefield the way it was meant to be, large scale with vehicles, not just infantry and locker it’s about not spreading lies and garbage for youtube views and likes ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/22 "2016-07-04T21:50:00Z")
> [@SyfruitCamelia](#): > > it’s about playing battlefield the way it was meant to be, large scale with vehicles, not just infantry and locker This comment right here is sickening, that people still think you have to play a game one way to have fun. How do you feel about the black soldier and woman’s voiceover? I can only imagine that is bad since it is not the way Battlefield is meant to be… gross ---
**Author:** ![SyfruitCamelia](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/syfruitcamelia/32/103674_2.png) [@SyfruitCamelia](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SyfruitCamelia)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/23 "2016-07-04T21:55:00Z")
> [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > [@SyfruitCamelia](#): > > > > it’s about playing battlefield the way it was meant to be, large scale with vehicles, not just infantry and locker > > This comment right here is sickening, that people still think you have to play a game one way to have fun. How do you feel about the black soldier and woman’s voiceover? I can only imagine that is bad since it is not the way Battlefield is meant to be… > > gross so you’re saying that we should just buy battlefield to play TDM call of duty? what a waste of money there is a reason why battlefield is different from other shooters and the main reason is that it’s a combined arms game where you play BOTH vehicles and infantry you’re probably one of those players that spouts “I just play for fun” as an excuse to feed and play poorly, even playing the only modes in your comfort zone like 64 locker. and I don’t care about black soldiers and female voiceovers, video games aren’t the time and place to push political agendas. DICE wants to be leftists delusional from reality, fine by me. Everyone knows that the vast majority of soldiers in WW1 were european whites, and africans and asians were segregated into logistical and support roles, that is factual history that cannot be lied about, and I can read REAL history for that and enjoy the game otherwise because its a fictional representation. I could easily complain that there are no East Asian or gay or trans soldiers being represented, and claim its “racist” “transphobic” but that would be using corollary logic, plus I don’t actually care. ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/24 "2016-07-04T21:58:00Z")
I get it, so you only care how other people play the game that they spent their money on for their enjoyment. Crazy thing is, some people enjoy other things… shocker, I know ---
**Author:** ![Eiluaq](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Eiluaq](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Eiluaq)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/25 "2016-07-04T22:17:00Z")
I’d just like to point out here that the DICE Dev’s actually do read through the forums looking at suggestions, recommendations and potential changes. Believe me here, the community have just as much input as youtubers… you just don’t know it! I can confirm this as I’ve seen several DEV’s post on the forums in reply to some suggestions, it’s very rare that they post but they are reading! Maybe not so much BF4 now as it’s done and dusty but still.. the community do have a fair say in any potential changes, and not just the CTE community. ---
**Author:** ![Sno0bs](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Sno0bs](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sno0bs)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/26 "2016-07-04T22:33:00Z")
> [@SyfruitCamelia](#): > > > [@Sno0bs](#): > > > > > [@SyfruitCamelia](#): > > > > > > > [@TacticulBadger](#): > > > > > > > > How exactly did they ruin anything again? Because they make youtube videos and Dice decided to let them play their games and leave feedback for marketing purposes? > > > > > > > > Sounds to me like there’s a bunch of losers here who don’t like the fact that people can be relatively successful by playing video games. > > > > > > they ruin market perception > > > > > > the vast majority of battlefield players listen to the advice of bad players who spout misinformation, and as a result skew the statistical data that the devs get with their horrible gameplay > > > > > > the truth is that none of those “pro” youtubers even play on servers against 140s > > > > Lucky enough you dont have to be pro at a video game to break trough on Youtube or Twitch or what ever else, you need to be entertaiming and give your opinion on the games mechanics and alot off youtubers and streamers are doing a great job providing how little info they have to work with at the moment. > > > > Alot is going on in BF1 dev, of course there will be misinformation its alpha/beta season at the moment. > > > > Hell there will be a ton misinformation during the first few weeks of release aswell as everyone is discovering the full games arsenal. > > it’s not about being “pro” > > it’s about not pretending you’re good > > it’s about playing battlefield the way it was meant to be, large scale with vehicles, not just infantry and locker > > it’s about not spreading lies and garbage for youtube views and likes If you are so annoyed by it, why dont you just stop caring and looking at those videos? There is nothing wrong with some slight self promotion almost everyone does that. There are more ways to play Battlefield then large scale with vehicles, CQC maps on a large scale as just as popular and its a good thing. Nobody is spreading lies or complete carbage imo they just have a opinion, correct or not correct. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/27 "2016-07-04T22:34:00Z")
> [@Sno0bs](#): > > There are more ways to play Battlefield then large scale with vehicles ---
**Author:** ![Eiluaq](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Eiluaq](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Eiluaq)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/28 "2016-07-04T22:36:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@Sno0bs](#): > > > > There are more ways to play Battlefield then large scale with vehicles Too right, my favourite way to play BF is with an Engineer (or something with C4) on foot and taking on armour as an infantry.. sure I die a lot but it’s how I love to play 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SyfruitCamelia](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/syfruitcamelia/32/103674_2.png) [@SyfruitCamelia](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SyfruitCamelia)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/29 "2016-07-04T22:49:00Z")
> [@ThePoolshark](#): > > I get it, so you only care how other people play the game that they spent their money on for their enjoyment. > > Crazy thing is, some people enjoy other things… shocker, I know if you enjoy buying a game and throwing away at least 50% of what it has to offer > [@Sno0bs](#): > > > [@SyfruitCamelia](#): > > > > > [@Sno0bs](#): > > > > > > > [@SyfruitCamelia](#): > > > > > > > > > [@TacticulBadger](#): > > > > > > > > > > How exactly did they ruin anything again? Because they make youtube videos and Dice decided to let them play their games and leave feedback for marketing purposes? > > > > > > > > > > Sounds to me like there’s a bunch of losers here who don’t like the fact that people can be relatively successful by playing video games. > > > > > > > > they ruin market perception > > > > > > > > the vast majority of battlefield players listen to the advice of bad players who spout misinformation, and as a result skew the statistical data that the devs get with their horrible gameplay > > > > > > > > the truth is that none of those “pro” youtubers even play on servers against 140s > > > > > > Lucky enough you dont have to be pro at a video game to break trough on Youtube or Twitch or what ever else, you need to be entertaiming and give your opinion on the games mechanics and alot off youtubers and streamers are doing a great job providing how little info they have to work with at the moment. > > > > > > Alot is going on in BF1 dev, of course there will be misinformation its alpha/beta season at the moment. > > > > > > Hell there will be a ton misinformation during the first few weeks of release aswell as everyone is discovering the full games arsenal. > > > > it’s not about being “pro” > > > > it’s about not pretending you’re good > > > > it’s about playing battlefield the way it was meant to be, large scale with vehicles, not just infantry and locker > > > > it’s about not spreading lies and garbage for youtube views and likes > > If you are so annoyed by it, why dont you just stop caring and looking at those videos? > > There is nothing wrong with some slight self promotion almost everyone does that. > > There are more ways to play Battlefield then large scale with vehicles, CQC maps on a large scale as just as popular and its a good thing. > > Nobody is spreading lies or complete carbage imo they just have a opinion, correct or not correct. uh I personally don’t watch it, not a single 140 or anyone who isn’t garbage at the game watches xfactor, levelcap, and all the youtube “guides” but OTHER people do, the vast majority of battlefield players watch levelcap and try to emulate him what happens when DICE devs look up the statistics of the masses and find correlating patterns? They balance and adjust the game to these statistics WE have gun balance based around locker 64 because it’s what “most” people play. Because all the bad kids watch the MG4 backrage montages and try to emulate that in Locker. And you have overall a poorly skilled poorly motivated community that does not try to win but to achieve that “pro mlg montage” ---
**Author:** ![Kranden](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kranden/32/102572_2.png) [@Kranden](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kranden)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/30 "2016-07-05T00:23:00Z")
What the hell is this crying, I love streamers. Especially when you them off like when Russianbadger called us “A bunch of Ace23 tryhards” you cant buy entertainment like that. QQ moar ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Be\_Gone](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zombie_be_gone/32/104198_2.png) [@Zombie\_Be\_Gone](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zombie_Be_Gone)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/31 "2016-07-05T00:31:00Z")
> [@TheStrategist242](#): > > Do you believe that the famous YouTubers getting involved in the deployment process will ruin the franchise? Because I’m not gonna lie to me it seems like they had big time involvement in hard-line like level cap and that game was terrible they did all the things he liked and it made it a less fun game trying to be like counterstrike. Levelcap did what he could to improve the crappyness of BF4 and hardline. Levelcaps hates Hardline and BF4. He only does the videos for BF4 and Hardline as it is his soruce of income. Obviously you know nothing about the main stream You Tubers JackFrags on BF4, levelcaps on BF4, Matimio on BF4, Xfactor on BF4, Chaboy’s video was funny as hell when he on BF4. They all stopped playing BF4 and Hardline except for levelcap because he really doesnt have much of a choice. They’ve always refurred to BF3 on how much better it is that BF4.. The maps, The coding, gameplay, mechanics.. They all complained there are too much stuff. clutter, attachments and it all had to go. SO much stuff they said bad about BF4 and hardline. OP do you research next time. I was super excited when JackFrags said while Playing Battlefield 1 “This feels like a real Battlefield Game”. ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/32 "2016-07-05T00:51:00Z")
> [@Zombie\_Be\_Gone](#): > > > [@TheStrategist242](#): > > > > Do you believe that the famous YouTubers getting involved in the deployment process will ruin the franchise? Because I’m not gonna lie to me it seems like they had big time involvement in hard-line like level cap and that game was terrible they did all the things he liked and it made it a less fun game trying to be like counterstrike. > > Levelcap did what he could to improve the crappyness of BF4 and hardline. > > Levelcaps hates Hardline and BF4. He only does the videos for BF4 and Hardline as it is his soruce of income. Obviously you know nothing about the main stream You Tubers > > JackFrags on BF4, levelcaps on BF4, Matimio on BF4, Xfactor on BF4, Chaboy’s video was funny as hell when he on BF4. They all stopped playing BF4 and Hardline except for levelcap because he really doesnt have much of a choice. They’ve always refurred to BF3 on how much better it is that BF4.. The maps, The coding, gameplay, mechanics.. They all complained there are too much stuff. clutter, attachments and it all had to go. SO much stuff they said bad about BF4 and hardline. > > OP do you research next time. > > I was super excited when JackFrags said while Playing Battlefield 1 “This feels like a real Battlefield Game”. BF4 was a noob crutch fest. Too many lock ons, too many gadgets, too many things for bad players to lean on. This game does not have that… it will be better for it. This game is obviously a passion project. When you play the game, then go to BF4, you will see how much more thought and time went into BF1 ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/33 "2016-07-05T00:53:00Z")
> [@ThePoolshark](#): > > When you play the game, then go to BF4, you will see how much more thought and time went into BF1 You keep making me want to buy a ticket for the Hype Train, bro. ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/34 "2016-07-05T00:57:00Z")
I’m not intentionally trying to raise hype, I just want people to understand this game has rejuvenated the team working on it. Whenever the beta comes out, go into buildings, look at the small details you wouldn’t normally look at unless you were searching, then go to BF4. You go from working on modern BF from 3 and 4, that is what… 6-8 years now including dev time, it would burn anyone out. Now they start a new game, different timeframe, trying new things, it allows creative people to be creative ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/35 "2016-07-05T01:01:00Z")
I can see how DICE could be so excited about it. Their determination to go with the WW1 setting even after EA didn’t initially agree with their viewpoint shows how dedicated they seem to be. They had to think it was something special considering there’s never been another AAA WW1 shooter. ---
**Author:** ![Raptor\_i81](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/raptor_i81/32/103224_2.png) [@Raptor\_i81](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Raptor_i81)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/36 "2016-07-05T01:03:00Z")
Yes they are , EA and DICE should stop taking them seriously , use them as advertising and marketing but nothing more most of them run and gun infantry players only and quick scope snipers , they are steering BF to be more arcade . ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/37 "2016-07-05T01:06:00Z")
> [@Raptor\_i81](#): > > Yes they are , EA and DICE should stop taking them seriously , use them as advertising and marketing but nothing more most of them run and gun infantry players only and quick scope snipers . I’m curious… what exactly do you think we talk about in these feedback sessions ---
**Author:** ![Raptor\_i81](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/raptor_i81/32/103224_2.png) [@Raptor\_i81](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Raptor_i81)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/38 "2016-07-05T01:45:00Z")
> [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > [@Raptor\_i81](#): > > > > Yes they are , EA and DICE should stop taking them seriously , use them as advertising and marketing but nothing more most of them run and gun infantry players only and quick scope snipers . > > I’m curious… what exactly do you think we talk about in these feedback sessions Are famous battlefield YouTubers ruining the franchise? yes they are … ---
**Author:** ![DisguisedMike](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9fc348/32.png) [@DisguisedMike](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DisguisedMike)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/39 "2016-07-05T01:45:00Z")
OP, by creating content they give the game more visibility so I think that famous youtubers are helping this franchise. They can get new players interested in Battlefield and help it grow. I might not agree with everything they say or want but that doesn’t mean that I don’t respect what they do. They give their opinions and that often generates interesting discussions within the Battlefield community and I think that’s a good thing. EA was probably going to have focus groups for BF1 anyway. I’m happy to know that people that love the franchise are involved in the process. I think that’s better than only having focus groups made up of random people that probably don’t know much about BF. ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406/40 "2016-07-05T01:48:00Z")
> [@Raptor\_i81](#): > > > [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > > > [@Raptor\_i81](#): > > > > > > Yes they are , EA and DICE should stop taking them seriously , use them as advertising and marketing but nothing more most of them run and gun infantry players only and quick scope snipers . > > > > I’m curious… what exactly do you think we talk about in these feedback sessions > > Are famous battlefield YouTubers ruining the franchise? yes they are … Answer my question… What SPECIFICALLY do you think we do at these feedback sessions? Stop deflecting or your opinion will be passed off as uneducated nonsense [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406.md?page=1) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/are-famous-battlefield-youtubers-ruining-the-franchise/102406.md?page=3)