yeah ochlocratia had creepy impact on all projects in all societies and frequently confused by ppl with democracy even by politicians(cause ignorance spike among?), sadly.
Some of them certainly. Like the one you’ve mentioned (levelcap) for instance.
When a YTer claims that something is a fact, which just is his opinion while his opinion is clearly wrong, then he influences many BF players who aren’t deep enough into the game. By this those players don’t get their own opinion build up, they just follow “he say she say”, which again leads to weird feedbacks.
False claims by levelcap about attachments in BF4 - Refutation by Dark Ethereal in help with The Lanky Soldier
i only say that last quote when someone complains about bolt actions being specific to the recon class.
This is also the same one that made a very big deal about Hardline to which spread like wildfire amongst people that had never played the game his complaints were taken literally and full of lies the killed the player numbers ,then the devs just gave up and abandoned the game like they never made it ,wich wasn’t fair to the ones that have been playing since day 1 .
This is very very wrong. You do t have a clue what you just said.
If you guys think that LevelClown or other Fooltubers are sittingi at DICE HQ in developer meetings I’d say you’re probably wrong lol…
it’s not the players, its their ideas. take LevelCry for example, he bases most of commentary for the entire game on maps, weapon balance, etc. base on his love for TDM
and his viewers eat him up for whatever reason.
BF is NOT TDM. it’s Conquest at its heart. his YT garbage dumbs down the viewers that buy into his and bring it to conquest.
Every battlefield Youtubers sucks. Except for battlenonsence…he is awesome
It depends on what you want from the YouTubers. Most of them don’t have much, if any, effect on the game itself. They can, however, influence the player populations, in ways that don’t necessarily align with my thoughts. The bigger ones mostly just give commentary or are just funny, hightlight type of content. The idea that DICE/EA listen to their every beck and call is ludicrous. So, the viewers may take what they say as gospel (no way to know for sure), but I definitely don’t think DICE does.
The content from the guys like Chris, MarbleDuck, dogfighters, and the competitive players absolutely don’t ruin anything. I’d probably even argue they enhance the player population, but that’s in a way that’s generally more in line with my thoughts and desires.
Says the guy who shuts down people’s ideas by openly calling them terrible…
Do you ever take a look in the mirror? It might do some good.
And I’m just curious, but do you ever mention to DICE the ideas which have many people talking about them on the forums, which you don’t personally find yourself interested in, or which you perhaps strongly dislike (although many people on the forums express interest in).
…That hardly “shuts down” anything, let alone an argument. If your argument is solely shut down by one person saying it’s terrible, then your argument was more than likely terrible if that’s the extent someone has to go to - to “shut it down”.
Sorry, I don’t like bad ideas… I’m weird like that, I guess
Who would have thought?
I like Youtubers, they do alot in terms of publicity/advertising but I don’t like when they get involved in Feedback, their viewerbase are fans and are biased. If he/she likes something, they will probably too. But whether or not DICE listens to Youtubers more than a random dude posting on forums I can’t speculate in nor I want to do that. I am just stating my opinion if this were true.
Hardline was a disaster, But BF1 will make up for it, I’m sure.
Levelcap is really the only one that seems to thrive off TDM footages in his videos.
I do have some gripes about YouTubers having so much sway, as most of them don’t give two craps about the competitive and will only occasionally make broad stroke conjectures about what the competitive scene needs (Jack and xfactor used to compete but both seem to be largely outdated in their views and current skill).
That said its ridiculous assume a “certain way to play” is the only way to play.
I do think DICE needs to pay more attention to the competitive community to even remotely have a chance at being able to at least provide a separate mode/ruleset to help nourish the competitive scene (defuse was a joke), but at the end of the day DICE is making a game in large part catered around those seeking the “public server” experience.
You can boast all you want about “beating” levelcap on a rush server (rush mode of all things) with your team stacked with God knows how many (you know any crew of 3-5 even marginally experienced/good players would trash a casual crew of youtubers), but you also gotta get off your high ground about it.
Rush is THE mode where you can farm blinded rushers to oblivion, not that any particular mode is all that more accolade worthy as long as you’re in public play.
“Nyuh-uh! You’re wrong!”
Unless you can explain your reasoning, there’s nothing for me to respond to or take away from this. Opinion discarded.
Relaaa was an ESL one attendee, and about as top end as “locker whores” go. All those attendees do warm up in lockers and Dom, so I guess they’re all awful players. Dom was THE competitive mode BF4, DICE made the choice not them. They’re NOT on the level of leadthemachine or brekke or whatever, by the way, and even those players can handle conquest as infy just fine outside of lockers.
Ravic was a bonafide Open Conquest player until he retired from the dwindling comp scene (pretty much when it went Dom in BF4 I believe).
Also, Ravic almost exclusively seems to play Open Conquest, and seems to be very versatile in how he farms using whatever tool (vehicle, engie, c4, and etc) so I don’t see your point.
Basically anyone who doesn’t stack with a core of rush farmers are ?
kek
I’m supposed to be impressed at “competitive” ACE23 Field or your 64 locker shitstomps?
rush is one of the most balanced places to play infantry, as all weapons and gadgets see use alongside vehicles, especially in a high traffic server with tons of skilled 140s playing in it constantly, as opposed to “MLG PROS ONLYXXXXXXXXX AEK LOCKER” which invariably ends up with someone with an MG4 mowing down a backline and calling it “skilled paly”
I’m sorry you need to make excuses for failing at the only one thing you’re good at, locker pubstomping
But feel free to play Rush and “farm” it as you suppose that I do and show me how “Easy” it is. I’m more than comfortable playing your game modes.
The YouTubers don’t make the final call so no.
I got nothing to prove. Anyone half decent is gonna be comfortable playing any mode in this game in the public environment. I don’t really pub much at all anymore outside scrims and matches in 10s, can’t be bothered to find the time. Especially with being in BF1 alpha and what have you. I don’t need to prove to you that ‘pub modes’ are never gonna be on par with competitive 8s and 10s.
It is knowwn~.