# As a history and battlefield fan I would like to see dice throw some love towards bolt action rifles **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 21, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451 "2016-05-21T03:00:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eric24439](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/eada6e/32.png) [@Eric24439](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Eric24439)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/1 "2016-05-21T03:00:00Z")
I have studied WWI and have seen that in reality bolt action rifles were used quite commonly and though I realize this game is not going for complete realism and most people won’t be using them I would like for dice to give bolt actions some love and a 1 shot to the upper center chest up to 20 yards (depending on how precise their damage multipliers are), bullet proof vests (as we know them) didn’t exist at that time and a high caliber round was devistating to a person, but what do you think? ---
**Author:** ![Eric24439](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/eada6e/32.png) [@Eric24439](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Eric24439)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/2 "2016-05-21T03:02:00Z")
I hope my bad grammar didn’t confuse anyone ---
**Author:** ![Stil3r](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Stil3r](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stil3r)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/3 "2016-05-21T03:24:00Z")
I agree, they are going to have to do something like that because otherwise the games just going to be filled with people using smg’s/snipers instead. ---
**Author:** ![Troopperfofo](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Troopperfofo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Troopperfofo)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/4 "2016-05-21T05:05:00Z")
Not really sure what they are going to do. Obviously you have people that don’t like 1 shot kill weapons and then you have trying to make Bolt actions viable. That all depends if they are available to all classes. Because Youtubers have said the class layout is like this. Assault - SMG Medic - Semi auto Support - LMG Scout - Sniper. Idk if Sniper means Scout is the only class with bolt actions or they will be the only class that has access to scopes. I would split Long rifles and carbines up like how bf4 has Assault rifles and carbines split. I would make it so Long rifles are a scout only weapon while carbines are all kit. In Verdun the way the differentiate between Long Rifles and Carbines is that Carbines have a faster fire rate but Long rifles have less bullet drop. They both do one shot kills in Verdun. Not really sure what they are going to do. ---
**Author:** ![Storjvi](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/storjvi/32/103625_2.png) [@Storjvi](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Storjvi)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 8:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/5 "2016-05-21T08:28:00Z")
That game is going to be filed with rifles, unfortunately… ---
**Author:** ![heast1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/heast1/32/102187_2.png) [@heast1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/heast1)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 8:36am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/6 "2016-05-21T08:36:00Z")
> [@Eric24439](#): > > I have studied WWI and have seen that in reality bolt action rifles were used quite commonly and though I realize this game is not going for complete realism and most people won’t be using them I would like for dice to give bolt actions some love and a 1 shot to the upper center chest up to 20 yards (depending on how precise their damage multipliers are), bullet proof vests (as we know them) didn’t exist at that time and a high caliber round was devistating to a person, but what do you think? i guess dice will not do any anachronism but as you said, they are reinventing history by presenting common some weapons that were rare or prototypes, typically tanks,ARs, flame thrower and body armor. ---
**Author:** ![Eric24439](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/eada6e/32.png) [@Eric24439](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Eric24439)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/7 "2016-05-21T20:36:00Z")
I just figured that dice would enjoy an incentive to stay out of no man’s land if they have a trench map, plus when you’re in the trenches and you have a bolt action rifle you only have one shot to survive. Besides, the absolute longest open distance you would ever find inside a trench would be less than 20 meters. I kinda like the Verdun idea except I’m fine with just one shot head shots at longer ranges, I just don’t want my long rifle to be worthless at close range ---
**Author:** ![clouseau2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/cab0a1/32.png) [@clouseau2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/clouseau2112)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/8 "2016-05-21T22:28:00Z")
I completely agree, OP I remember the old bolt actions only matches my friends and I had in Cod WaW Bolt actions rifles ROCK!! ---
**Author:** ![Brentlostak](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/brentlostak/32/101414_2.png) [@Brentlostak](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Brentlostak)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/9 "2016-05-21T23:17:00Z")
> [@Storjvi](#): > > That game is going to be filed with rifles, unfortunately… That is not really true! Do some research! ---
**Author:** ![UnderbossNiko](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/cab0a1/32.png) [@UnderbossNiko](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UnderbossNiko)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/10 "2016-05-21T23:26:00Z")
Personally I do hope there is a good level of attention given to Bolt Action rifles. As they did play a major part in the conflict. But variety is the spice of life. And Dice understands that you need a little more to keep things interesting. As someone on another thread has said. Let’s just hope that there will be bolt actions that are available to all classes. Giving people more variety in their play style outside of just their class. ---
**Author:** ![TallPaul1878](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@TallPaul1878](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TallPaul1878)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 9:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/11 "2016-05-22T09:03:00Z")
> [@Troopperfofo](#): > > Not really sure what they are going to do. Obviously you have people that don’t like 1 shot kill weapons and then you have trying to make Bolt actions viable. That all depends if they are available to all classes. Because Youtubers have said the class layout is like this. > > Assault - SMG > > Medic - Semi auto > > Support - LMG > > Scout - Sniper. > > Idk if Sniper means Scout is the only class with bolt actions or they will be the only class that has access to scopes. > > I would split Long rifles and carbines up like how bf4 has Assault rifles and carbines split. I would make it so Long rifles are a scout only weapon while carbines are all kit. > > In Verdun the way the differentiate between Long Rifles and Carbines is that Carbines have a faster fire rate but Long rifles have less bullet drop. They both do one shot kills in Verdun. > > Not really sure what they are going to do. I would suggest that rifles are available to all classes and that your list is for class specific weapons. So that only assault can use SMG for example ---
**Author:** ![SobeR666](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sober666/32/103550_2.png) [@SobeR666](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SobeR666)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 9:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/12 "2016-05-23T09:20:00Z")
What SMG ??? this is WW1. SMG were too heavy and stationary only !!! ---
**Author:** ![lexman61](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lexman61/32/102635_2.png) [@lexman61](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lexman61)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 9:51am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/13 "2016-05-23T09:51:00Z")
Don’t worry, bolt action rifles and shotguns will be the centre of attention. The two major and opposing factions “nerf and buff” will once again battle it out, not in-game, but on the forum pages. ---
**Author:** ![triumph82](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@triumph82](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/triumph82)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 10:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/14 "2016-05-23T10:59:00Z")
You will see a ton of bolt action rifles.. Both the Medic Class and Scout Class will utilize these weapons as there main weapon, with the exception being that the Scout class will have modified Bolt Action Rifles that have scopes and what not to allow them to snipe, where as Medic will have basic Bolt Action guns. ---
**Author:** ![triumph82](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@triumph82](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/triumph82)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 11:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/15 "2016-05-23T11:06:00Z")
> [@TallPaul1878](#): > > > [@Troopperfofo](#): > > > > Not really sure what they are going to do. Obviously you have people that don’t like 1 shot kill weapons and then you have trying to make Bolt actions viable. That all depends if they are available to all classes. Because Youtubers have said the class layout is like this. > > > > Assault - SMG > > > > Medic - Semi auto > > > > Support - LMG > > > > Scout - Sniper. > > > > Idk if Sniper means Scout is the only class with bolt actions or they will be the only class that has access to scopes. > > > > I would split Long rifles and carbines up like how bf4 has Assault rifles and carbines split. I would make it so Long rifles are a scout only weapon while carbines are all kit. > > > > In Verdun the way the differentiate between Long Rifles and Carbines is that Carbines have a faster fire rate but Long rifles have less bullet drop. They both do one shot kills in Verdun. > > > > Not really sure what they are going to do. > > I would suggest that rifles are available to all classes and that your list is for class specific weapons. So that only assault can use SMG for example This is incorrect. The medic class will have Bolt Action Rifles, and Scout will also have Bolt Action, only with scopes and such to allow sniping. Semi Auto rifles will be **unlockables** for the Bolt Action Rifles classes.. the difference being the Bolt Action will be a lot more powerful, with greater range killing in only one to two shots.. the down side will be that they are slightly slower to shoot, semi auto will have faster firing rates but will be weaker with shorter ranges. ---
**Author:** ![triumph82](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@triumph82](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/triumph82)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/16 "2016-05-23T11:09:00Z")
> [@SobeR666](#): > > What SMG ??? this is WW1. SMG were too heavy and stationary only !!! That is completely untrue.. if you do your research you’ll see that a lot of weapons existed in WW1 that most people didn’t realize. if you want to be specific with the SMG, have a look at this…[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submachine\_gun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submachine_gun).. FYI: the MP18 was the first official SMG created and used during WW1. (the picture of the Harlem Hellfighter in the promotional pictures is seen carrying one) ---
**Author:** ![splifire](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@splifire](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/splifire)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 11:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/17 "2016-05-23T11:42:00Z")
Maybe he mixed up the german “schweres Maschinengewehr” (which would be HMG) and “submachinegun” ---
**Author:** ![Sazabinitengale](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@Sazabinitengale](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sazabinitengale)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/18 "2016-05-23T16:05:00Z")
Actual MGs week be emplacements. The rifles will all need to be powerful because at this time they all used big rounds (8mm Mauser, 30-06, .308, etc…) but they can’t all just be 1 hit kill, that would be boring and is what hardcore mode is for. I’m really doubting this game. Have all since 2142, may just skip this 1, beta has to really “wow” me. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyGI1998](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crazygi1998/32/101576_2.png) [@CrazyGI1998](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CrazyGI1998)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/as-a-history-and-battlefield-fan-i-would-like-to-see-dice-throw-some-love-towards-bolt-action-rifles/101451/19 "2016-05-25T01:14:00Z")
I think they should just be a OHK to the chest up at all distances.