# Assault Class Semi auto Rifles stealth nerfed?!

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 8, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145 "2018-12-08T20:59:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Itssladenlol](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itssladenlol](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Itssladenlol)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/1 "2018-12-08T20:59:00Z")

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Since the Patch i cant hit anything anymore with semi auto rifles,bullets are traveling way slower, recoil is way higher than before, especially gewehr 43.  
cant find anything about that in the patch notes but my squad and several people here in the forum noticed same…  
i was playing the day before patch and managed stats like 40-10 and now i can be happy if i do like 15-10 on assault lmao.

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**Author:** ![JackL1vely](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jackl1vely/32/106792_2.png) [@JackL1vely](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JackL1vely)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/2 "2018-12-08T21:25:00Z")

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> [@Itssladenlol](#):
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> Since the Patch i cant hit anything anymore with semi auto rifles,bullets are traveling way slower, recoil is way higher than before, especially gewehr 43.  
> cant find anything about that in the patch notes but my squad and several people here in the forum noticed same…  
> i was playing the day before patch and managed stats like 40-10 and now i can be happy if i do like 15-10 on assault lmao.

Don’t think Assault was nerfed, in fact some Assault rifles received buffs. But Assault doesn’t need any buffs at the moment. They need nerfing hard.

That’s not a bias, I enjoy playing Assault. But it’s too easy to melt tanks and infantry alike. Hell, snipers are easy to counter snipe, ironically. M1A1 will utterly destroy them at most ranges, which is just all kinds of broken.

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**Author:** ![smokintom214](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@smokintom214](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/smokintom214)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/3 "2018-12-08T21:33:00Z")

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Assault wasn’t touched which is a joke considering on how powerful they are. The only thing to effect all guns is the 1.5x upgrade to all iron sights.

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**Author:** ![crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crabman169/32/101567_2.png) [@crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crabman169)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/4 "2018-12-08T22:01:00Z")

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It’s because they removed auto rotation for console.

Basically you the player got a hand holding nerf thus now need adapting to playing without it

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**Author:** ![Zviko0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zviko0/32/104209_2.png) [@Zviko0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zviko0)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/5 "2018-12-08T22:02:00Z")

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Interesting. I’ve been playing with M1A1 Carbine a lot since patch and I’m destroying everyone.

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**Author:** ![Loki\_Deezie](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loki_deezie/32/106890_2.png) [@Loki\_Deezie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loki_Deezie)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/6 "2018-12-08T22:05:00Z")

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> [@crabman169](#):
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> It’s because they removed auto rotation for console.
> 
> Basically you the player got a hand holding nerf thus now need adapting to playing without it

I noticed when they removed this I started doing immensely better lol.

Big crutch now gone. It’s why I stopped playing bf1 so early.

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**Author:** ![TehDukeOfNukem](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tehdukeofnukem/32/103722_2.png) [@TehDukeOfNukem](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TehDukeOfNukem)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/7 "2018-12-08T22:17:00Z")

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> [@crabman169](#):
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> It’s because they removed auto rotation for console.
> 
> Basically you the player got a hand holding nerf thus now need adapting to playing without it

^this. G43 recoil pattern hasn’t changed, I’ve tested it. Velocity I’m 99% sure hasn’t as I would’ve noticed it.

If you were relying on Auto rotation \> spam trigger meta then yea, of course you’re going to need to L2aim

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**Author:** ![James-MII](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@James-MII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/James-MII)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/8 "2018-12-08T22:20:00Z")

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> [@crabman169](#):
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> It’s because they removed auto rotation for console.
> 
> Basically you the player got a hand holding nerf thus now need adapting to playing without it

Ahh here we go, I didn’t think it would be long before this one was thrown around.

You ever thought about the fact some people struggle using a controller?

Why is this s priblem? Just becausea YOU personally think so?! Get out of here.

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**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/9 "2018-12-08T22:25:00Z")

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> [@James-MII](#):
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> > [@crabman169](#):
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> > It’s because they removed auto rotation for console.
> > 
> > Basically you the player got a hand holding nerf thus now need adapting to playing without it
> 
> Ahh here we go, I didn’t think it would be long before this one was thrown around.
> 
> You ever thought about the fact some people struggle using a controller?
> 
> Why is this s priblem? Just becausea YOU personally think so?! Get out of here.

I mean, dice removed. Seems like the people that can’t adapt need to get out of here.

Fun fact; I had it enabled and I have played identical since it was removed.

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**Author:** ![Itssladenlol](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itssladenlol](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Itssladenlol)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/10 "2018-12-08T22:29:00Z")

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im playing on pc not ps4 lol

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**Author:** ![James-MII](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@James-MII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/James-MII)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/11 "2018-12-08T22:55:00Z")

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> [@TEKNOCODE](#):
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> > [@James-MII](#):
> >
> > > [@crabman169](#):
> > >
> > > It’s because they removed auto rotation for console.
> > > 
> > > Basically you the player got a hand holding nerf thus now need adapting to playing without it
> > 
> > Ahh here we go, I didn’t think it would be long before this one was thrown around.
> > 
> > You ever thought about the fact some people struggle using a controller?
> > 
> > Why is this s priblem? Just becausea YOU personally think so?! Get out of here.
> 
> I mean, dice removed. Seems like the people that can’t adapt need to get out of here.
> 
> Fun fact; I had it enabled and I have played identical since it was removed.

Yeah, again the other forum moron decides to chime in with another pearl of wisdom.

What is it with you lot?!

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**Author:** ![Zviko0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zviko0/32/104209_2.png) [@Zviko0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zviko0)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/12 "2018-12-08T22:58:00Z")

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> [@James-MII](#):
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> > [@TEKNOCODE](#):
> >
> > > [@James-MII](#):
> > >
> > > > [@crabman169](#):
> > > >
> > > > It’s because they removed auto rotation for console.
> > > > 
> > > > Basically you the player got a hand holding nerf thus now need adapting to playing without it
> > > 
> > > Ahh here we go, I didn’t think it would be long before this one was thrown around.
> > > 
> > > You ever thought about the fact some people struggle using a controller?
> > > 
> > > Why is this s priblem? Just becausea YOU personally think so?! Get out of here.
> > 
> > I mean, dice removed. Seems like the people that can’t adapt need to get out of here.
> > 
> > Fun fact; I had it enabled and I have played identical since it was removed.
> 
> Yeah, again the other forum moron decides to chime in with another pearl of wisdom.
> 
> What is it with you lot?!

Wtf, you are the one with the problem. Attacking everyone for no reason..

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**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 4:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/13 "2018-12-09T04:06:00Z")

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> [@Zviko0](#):
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> > [@James-MII](#):
> >
> > > [@TEKNOCODE](#):
> > >
> > > > [@James-MII](#):
> > > >
> > > > > [@crabman169](#):
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s because they removed auto rotation for console.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Basically you the player got a hand holding nerf thus now need adapting to playing without it
> > > > 
> > > > Ahh here we go, I didn’t think it would be long before this one was thrown around.
> > > > 
> > > > You ever thought about the fact some people struggle using a controller?
> > > > 
> > > > Why is this s priblem? Just becausea YOU personally think so?! Get out of here.
> > > 
> > > I mean, dice removed. Seems like the people that can’t adapt need to get out of here.
> > > 
> > > Fun fact; I had it enabled and I have played identical since it was removed.
> > 
> > Yeah, again the other forum moron decides to chime in with another pearl of wisdom.
> > 
> > What is it with you lot?!
> 
> Wtf, you are the one with the problem. Attacking everyone for no reason..

He plays the victim very often.

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**Author:** ![SharpeXB](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@SharpeXB](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SharpeXB)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/14 "2018-12-09T04:19:00Z")

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> [@JackL1vely](#):
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> > [@Itssladenlol](#):
> >
> > Since the Patch i cant hit anything anymore with semi auto rifles,bullets are traveling way slower, recoil is way higher than before, especially gewehr 43.  
> > cant find anything about that in the patch notes but my squad and several people here in the forum noticed same…  
> > i was playing the day before patch and managed stats like 40-10 and now i can be happy if i do like 15-10 on assault lmao.
> 
> Hell, snipers are easy to counter snipe, ironically. M1A1 will utterly destroy them at most ranges, which is just all kinds of broken.

Yeah it’s ridiculous how weak sniper rifles are. All the other weapons can have scopes and outgun it.

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**Author:** ![WhiteWolf\_W3](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/whitewolf_w3/32/107309_2.png) [@WhiteWolf\_W3](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WhiteWolf_W3)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 4:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/15 "2018-12-09T04:43:00Z")

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Earlier when i was playing i did not feel that, mainly using the SMLE and STG however.

The SMLE and Carbine need major nerfs IMO, the TTK and range on them is absurd.

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**Author:** ![y\_j\_es\_i](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/y_j_es_i/32/104162_2.png) [@y\_j\_es\_i](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/y_j_es_i)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/16 "2018-12-09T06:15:00Z")

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Since the patch I feel as if I’ve been having more troubling tracking targets, as if the recoil on the SMLE has increased or the muzzle flash has increased or something.

I don’t remember anything from the patch notes about it but I did skip a few sections and can’t remember specifically which ones

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**Author:** ![crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crabman169/32/101567_2.png) [@crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crabman169)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 6:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/17 "2018-12-09T06:35:00Z")

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> [@James-MII](#):
>
> > [@crabman169](#):
> >
> > It’s because they removed auto rotation for console.
> > 
> > Basically you the player got a hand holding nerf thus now need adapting to playing without it
> 
> Ahh here we go, I didn’t think it would be long before this one was thrown around.
> 
> You ever thought about the fact some people struggle using a controller?
> 
> Why is this s priblem? Just becausea YOU personally think so?! Get out of here.

I know full well that people struggle I see it all the time (even with my own brother sometimes) I even reference that fact in another post has to why console has such assists.

But my post isn’t wrong; a hold holding assist has been removed and thus players will need to adapt to that fact. When people instantly think their weapons have been nerfed instead of a moment to think.

Dice said they were removing it for the retail game back in beta.

I personally don’t care whether a game allows assists or not; I’m literally stating the fact it’s gone and the need to adjust is present.

Also…

> [@Zviko0](#):
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> > [@James-MII](#):
> >
> > > [@TEKNOCODE](#):
> > >
> > > > [@James-MII](#):
> > > >
> > > > > [@crabman169](#):
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s because they removed auto rotation for console.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Basically you the player got a hand holding nerf thus now need adapting to playing without it
> > > > 
> > > > Ahh here we go, I didn’t think it would be long before this one was thrown around.
> > > > 
> > > > You ever thought about the fact some people struggle using a controller?
> > > > 
> > > > Why is this s priblem? Just becausea YOU personally think so?! Get out of here.
> > > 
> > > I mean, dice removed. Seems like the people that can’t adapt need to get out of here.
> > > 
> > > Fun fact; I had it enabled and I have played identical since it was removed.
> > 
> > Yeah, again the other forum moron decides to chime in with another pearl of wisdom.
> > 
> > What is it with you lot?!
> 
> Wtf, you are the one with the problem. Attacking everyone for no reason..

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**Author:** ![MachoFantast1c0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/machofantast1c0/32/100978_2.png) [@MachoFantast1c0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MachoFantast1c0)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 8:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/18 "2018-12-09T08:37:00Z")

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> [@Itssladenlol](#):
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> im playing on pc not ps4 lol

Absolutely nothing about them had changed, apart from a slight Turner range nerf.

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**Author:** ![DCSTomcat](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dcstomcat/32/101664_2.png) [@DCSTomcat](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DCSTomcat)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/19 "2018-12-09T09:34:00Z")

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Auto rotation is still there, the ads snap is probably removed, but if someone runs across my gun cross I still feel the pull.

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**Author:** ![smokintom214](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@smokintom214](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/smokintom214)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/assault-class-semi-auto-rifles-stealth-nerfed/106145/20 "2018-12-09T12:47:00Z")

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> [@SharpeXB](#):
>
> > [@JackL1vely](#):
> >
> > > [@Itssladenlol](#):
> > >
> > > Since the Patch i cant hit anything anymore with semi auto rifles,bullets are traveling way slower, recoil is way higher than before, especially gewehr 43.  
> > > cant find anything about that in the patch notes but my squad and several people here in the forum noticed same…  
> > > i was playing the day before patch and managed stats like 40-10 and now i can be happy if i do like 15-10 on assault lmao.
> > 
> > Hell, snipers are easy to counter snipe, ironically. M1A1 will utterly destroy them at most ranges, which is just all kinds of broken.
> 
> Yeah it’s ridiculous how weak sniper rifles are. All the other weapons can have scopes and outgun it.

What are you smoking? They are the most powerful and accurate guns in the game… 2 body shots or 1 hs with any sniper rifle

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