# At this point, it's meaningless... **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 3, 2019, 6:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255 "2019-09-03T06:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![287martin](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/2/ecd19e/32.png) [@287martin](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/287martin)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/41 "2019-09-06T21:15:00Z")
Battlefield 5 should be the best ww2 game ever made. Not a single major ww2 battle has been replicated in bf5 its crazy. That alone makes this a failure as a WW2 game. I think most people were expecting to see maps based on major WW2 battles ---
**Author:** ![rifle77](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@rifle77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rifle77)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/42 "2019-09-07T03:16:00Z")
> [@287martin](#): > > Battlefield 5 should be the best ww2 game ever made. Not a single major ww2 battle has been replicated in bf5 its crazy. That alone makes this a failure as a WW2 game. I think most people were expecting to see maps based on major WW2 battles They could have printed money with a good WWII game, and it would have been so easy. They literally, and figuratively, said to their core, veteran audience, “don’t buy the game if you don’t like it”, and then made it an offer you couldn’t refuse when they went against all conventional wisdom and put in a bunch of no-name battles on tiny zero horizontal maps and peppered it with underwhelming vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![LeesSummit09](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/919ad9/32.png) [@LeesSummit09](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LeesSummit09)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 3:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/43 "2019-09-07T03:59:00Z")
Don’t have issues finding games and gameplay, on ps4 pro is playing fine for me, maybe finding lucky servers. Anyway, I like the variety and trying new game modes. People’s interests change. I rarely play conquest anymore. It’s just going in circles, take flag, while losing the one you took before, rinse/repeat. If you don’t get vehicle, you run, run some more then get sniped and die. Also, back in good old days, as people like to remember more fondly than it was, people loaded jeeps with explosives and drove around either blowing up tanks or chasing infantry. Fun, but not great gameplay. I think they (dice) are just trying to find games that have action happening quicker and where players have to be more objective based. ---
**Author:** ![StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StormSaxon)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/44 "2019-09-07T10:00:00Z")
> [@M\_Rat13](#): > > Remember when BF4 was the most hated game of the franchise… Still is in my opinion. I’d play any BF game over that. Mind you id play BF4 for ever over any CoD game. ---
**Author:** ![StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StormSaxon)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/45 "2019-09-07T10:02:00Z")
> [@287martin](#): > > Battlefield 5 should be the best ww2 game ever made. Not a single major ww2 battle has been replicated in bf5 its crazy. That alone makes this a failure as a WW2 game. I think most people were expecting to see maps based on major WW2 battles Translation not a single American battle has been portrayed. Crete and Norway were kind of major theatres at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Turban\_Legend80](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/turban_legend80/32/102395_2.png) [@Turban\_Legend80](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Turban_Legend80)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/46 "2019-09-07T10:02:00Z")
> [@StormSaxon](#): > > > [@M\_Rat13](#): > > > > Remember when BF4 was the most hated game of the franchise… > > Still is in my opinion. I’d play any BF game over that. > Mind you id play BF4 for ever over any CoD game. You think BF4 is the most hated in the franchise? More hated than BFV and Hardline? ---
**Author:** ![StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StormSaxon)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/47 "2019-09-07T10:12:00Z")
> [@Turban\_Legend80](#): > > > [@StormSaxon](#): > > > > > [@M\_Rat13](#): > > > > > > Remember when BF4 was the most hated game of the franchise… > > > > Still is in my opinion. I’d play any BF game over that. > > Mind you id play BF4 for ever over any CoD game. > > You think BF4 is the most hated in the franchise? More hated than BFV and Hardline? I said in my opinion. As in I hate BF4 more than any single BF game. Utter trash. Even bad days on BFV (like today. It was awful) are more fun than that travesty. So pathetic how people have rewritten history, forgotten the hot steaming that game was, and now act like it was never trash… all because there are women in BFV, and it’s set in parts of WW2 they are too dumb to understand… Though I accept this game, while better than BF4 in most respects, maybe unpopular … I also know people voted for , got N-Sync to number 1 so more proof of bad taste. It was the same with Hardline. Which was WAY more fun than BF4… but it was wasted on some people. ---
**Author:** ![StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StormSaxon)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 10:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/48 "2019-09-07T10:13:00Z")
Wow. We can’t mention Adolf? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Tinman08](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mr_tinman08/32/102872_2.png) [@Mr\_Tinman08](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Mr_Tinman08)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/49 "2019-09-07T13:28:00Z")
BF3 had a lot of problems on release, random “bad luck” deaths, mav road killing, getting to unreachable areas on a mav, glitched guns. New content and game modes were released quite regularly and the game worked well. BF4 had a lot of problems on release, hit detection was shocking, over time most problems were fixed. Plenty of maps and game modes were released. BF5 was released late, has had problems from day one, some of which still haven’t been fixed. Any problems that are fixed just seem to create a new problem. Content is being drip fed to the community and the developers don’t even seem to know what’s going on. ---
**Author:** ![NWOslave](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/nwoslave/32/102991_2.png) [@NWOslave](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NWOslave)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/50 "2019-09-07T15:09:00Z")
Ive never sworn off BF but when the next one comes out it will not be a preorder, day one purchase or a week one purchase. Dice has turned me into a cynical customer with this latest itteration of BF. ---
**Author:** ![Turban\_Legend80](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/turban_legend80/32/102395_2.png) [@Turban\_Legend80](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Turban_Legend80)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/51 "2019-09-07T16:11:00Z")
> [@StormSaxon](#): > > > [@Turban\_Legend80](#): > > > > > [@StormSaxon](#): > > > > > > > [@M\_Rat13](#): > > > > > > > > Remember when BF4 was the most hated game of the franchise… > > > > > > Still is in my opinion. I’d play any BF game over that. > > > Mind you id play BF4 for ever over any CoD game. > > > > You think BF4 is the most hated in the franchise? More hated than BFV and Hardline? > > I said in my opinion. As in I hate BF4 more than any single BF game. Utter trash. > Even bad days on BFV (like today. It was awful) are more fun than that travesty. > So pathetic how people have rewritten history, forgotten the hot steaming that game was, and now act like it was never trash… all because there are women in BFV, and it’s set in parts of WW2 they are too dumb to understand… > > Though I accept this game, while better than BF4 in most respects, maybe unpopular … I also know people voted for , got N-Sync to number 1 so more proof of bad taste. > > It was the same with Hardline. Which was WAY more fun than BF4… but it was wasted on some people. Yeah, and that’s why I asked! Because I’m not sure there are many that agree with your opinion. You said “still is (bf4 most hated game) in your opinion”. That means that YOU think that BF4 is THE most hated game, not YOUR most hated game. Basically I don’t think you meant what you said. ---
**Author:** ![thamac15](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thamac15/32/103737_2.png) [@thamac15](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/thamac15)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/52 "2019-09-07T17:37:00Z")
We all got Diced!!! Hardline was less frustrating than this garbage. ---
**Author:** ![rifle77](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@rifle77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rifle77)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/53 "2019-09-08T00:42:00Z")
> [@StormSaxon](#): > > I said in my opinion. As in I hate BF4 more than any single BF game. Utter trash. > Even bad days on BFV (like today. It was awful) are more fun than that travesty. > So pathetic how people have rewritten history, forgotten the hot steaming that game was, and now act like it was never trash… all because there are women in BFV, and it’s set in parts of WW2 they are too dumb to understand… > > Though I accept this game, while better than BF4 in most respects, maybe unpopular … I also know people voted for , got N-Sync to number 1 so more proof of bad taste. > > It was the same with Hardline. Which was WAY more fun than BF4… but it was wasted on some people. I mean you say in your opinion, and then you go on to say everyone else is wrong who doesn’t agree with you and they must be forgetting or rewriting history. In my opinion, you have the worst opinions of anyone I’ve ever read on this forum. ---
**Author:** ![StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StormSaxon)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/54 "2019-09-08T01:56:00Z")
> [@rifle77](#): > > (Quote) > I mean you say in your opinion, and then you go on to say everyone else is wrong who doesn’t agree with you and they must be forgetting or rewriting history. In my opinion, you have the worst opinions of anyone I’ve ever read on this forum. Lol. Yeah. Well. That’s just, you know, like your opinion man. And yeah anyone saying BF4 was good, is rewriting history. Worst ever release, it’s whole game life it was a glitchy and broken mess. 18 months til it even started to be playable? Atrocious maps. Easy mode sniping. Silly unwanted game modes. OP tanks. Sound familiar? (Well maybe not the op tanks) Hard to take all the BFV haters seriously when I sat through BF4 and saw pretty much the exact same overly dramatic nonsense then. I played BF4 though, sat through it though as though it will always be the weakest entry in the BF cannon, it was still leagues ahead of any CoD game I’ve played. ---
**Author:** ![rifle77](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@rifle77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rifle77)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/55 "2019-09-08T03:26:00Z")
StormSaxon, do you really think anyone, let alone thousands of people, will be playing BFV in 6 years the way they still play BF4? That says it all right there. Hint: they won’t be playing BFV in 2 years, let alone 6. ---
**Author:** ![tempo\_rarity](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@tempo\_rarity](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tempo_rarity)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/56 "2019-09-08T03:46:00Z")
Curiosity : the thread title sez “at this point” but if BF4 took 18 months to finally get sorted out and BFV is only just 10 months out , then . . . maybe the title’s wrong , or , the thread’s too early . ---
**Author:** ![Godmodegta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/godmodegta/32/102082_2.png) [@Godmodegta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Godmodegta)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/57 "2019-09-08T04:00:00Z")
maybe lost trust? but im sure lot of player just went back other battlefield , even i get nostalgia how fun bf1,bf4,bc2. ---
**Author:** ![StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StormSaxon)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/58 "2019-09-08T06:51:00Z")
> [@rifle77](#): > > StormSaxon, do you really think anyone, let alone thousands of people, will be playing BFV in 6 years the way they still play BF4? That says it all right there. Hint: they won’t be playing BFV in 2 years, let alone 6. Who knows. Deleted BF4 around the time BFH was released. Guys still play BF3… what that tell you about BF4? Nothing. I suspect BFV will carry one… some people will always stick with what they got good at. I’ll delete BFV when the next BF comes along… though maybe I won’t pre order the next one. ---
**Author:** ![SilkWildey](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8491ac/32.png) [@SilkWildey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SilkWildey)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 8:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/59 "2019-09-08T08:43:00Z")
BF4 is overrated in my opinion. I dont think it was as good as either BF3 or BF1 but BFV is still not BF4 level. BFV is the worst in the franchise it’s not even close imo. ---
**Author:** ![BtheReaper49](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@BtheReaper49](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BtheReaper49)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255/60 "2019-09-08T13:40:00Z")
> [@SilkWildey](#): > > BF4 is overrated in my opinion. I dont think it was as good as either BF3 or BF1 but BFV is still not BF4 level. > > BFV is the worst in the franchise it’s not even close imo. Didn’t play a ton of BF4 (late to the party with that one) but absolutely loved BF1. Very well done game! I play some BF4 with friends now and it’s not bad. Way better than BF5 in terms of playability. I know, I know…BF4 had tons of problems…yadda yadda yadda. But this is getting silly now with BF5. Anyway, there’s no way I’d go back to 5 if the next installment isn’t great. I’d still play 4 or 1 instead. BF5 is just that bad! [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255.md?page=2) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/at-this-point-its-meaningless/107255.md?page=4)