# Attack Heli Change Thread. (keep alive for Devs)

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298>\
**Category:** PC\
**Created:** [November 29, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298 "2013-11-29T21:02:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DerFetteDetlef)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/41 "2013-11-29T23:09:00Z")

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Might wanna add my thread aswell → [Flying a helicopter got ridiculous. Potential fix.](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305)  
It’s the same topic. Your effort is appreciated Sarg\_Scorpio! Let’s make this more balanced.

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**Author:** ![G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g-gnu/32/102029_2.png) [@G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/G-Gnu)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/42 "2013-11-29T23:09:00Z")

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Never used and never will use Twitter, but if someone else can get the Devs attention by using it, THEN DO IT 😛

Sarg\_Scorpio maybe you should make DerFetteDetlef thread as a link in your Top post.

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**Author:** ![Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sarg_Scorpio)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/43 "2013-11-29T23:13:00Z")

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bump and sent to the BF Twitter account and the Head devs Twitter… and even Levelcap since he can talk to the devs.

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**Author:** ![FoolishManX](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/dec6dc/32.png) [@FoolishManX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FoolishManX)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/44 "2013-11-29T23:14:00Z")

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Attack Heli does seem incredibly useless at the moment. I would be happy if they buff it to be on par with BF3 Attack Helis minus the TV missile. Camping the outside boarders only shooting TV missiles all round got really annoying

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**Author:** ![G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g-gnu/32/102029_2.png) [@G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/G-Gnu)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/45 "2013-11-29T23:14:00Z")

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Allright, i hope they read it then. 😃

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**Author:** ![DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DerFetteDetlef)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/46 "2013-11-29T23:14:00Z")

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I’ll link your thread to mine aswell. More power to this topic !

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**Author:** ![Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sarg_Scorpio)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/47 "2013-11-29T23:15:00Z")

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> _DerFetteDetlef said:_  
> I’ll link your thread to mine aswell. More power to this topic !

sweet Ive done it for this topic 🙂 Also sent it to the devs via twitter.

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**Author:** ![black1der](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@black1der](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/black1der)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/48 "2013-11-29T23:17:00Z")

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I see a bunch of heli pilots wanting easy mode like they had in BF3. Which was overpowered.

Can I now use the “learn to adapt” line that you all gave to me in BF3?

Karma’s a bitch, so go f\*\*k yourselves. If anything attack chopper needs to be even weaker, it’s still slightly overpowered it can use another nerf actually.

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**Author:** ![PappaKeno99](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/7ab992/32.png) [@PappaKeno99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PappaKeno99)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/49 "2013-11-29T23:18:00Z")

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I Agree with Sarg\_scorpio

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**Author:** ![G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g-gnu/32/102029_2.png) [@G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/G-Gnu)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/50 "2013-11-29T23:19:00Z")

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Nice going boys 🙂

@ FoolishManX About the TV-Missile, the could keep it as is if they have a relatively low respawn time, then it will be more skill based to take out something with the TV.  
Btw it was rather hard sometimes to do things with the TV in BF3 too, especially when the damn thing jumped around like a horny bunny.

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**Author:** ![DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DerFetteDetlef)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/51 "2013-11-29T23:19:00Z")

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> _black1der said:_  
> I see a bunch of heli pilots wanting easy mode like they had in BF3. Which was overpowered.
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> Can I now use the "learn to adapt" line that you all gave to me in BF3?
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> Karma’s a bitch, so go f\*\*k yourselves. If anything attack chopper needs to be even weaker, it’s still slightly overpowered it can use another nerf actually.

Nobody wants it to be like it was in BF3. Heli was too strong there. I agree. But they were closer to middle ground then they’re now. They nerfed it into being useless. How can you not understand that? We dont want rounds with 100-0. We want to be rewarded for good piloting skills, thats all. No need to dominate EVERYBODY.

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**Author:** ![Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sarg_Scorpio)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/52 "2013-11-29T23:22:00Z")

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> _black1der said:_  
> I see a bunch of heli pilots wanting easy mode like they had in BF3. Which was overpowered.
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> Can I now use the "learn to adapt" line that you all gave to me in BF3?
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> Karma’s a bitch, so go f\*\*k yourselves. If anything attack chopper needs to be even weaker, it’s still slightly overpowered it can use another nerf actually.

LOL mate this is about getting some bugs fixed and balancing it. They are not really that over powered . let alone making them weaker lol. I don’t see how they are currently overpowered. Please explain how so 🙂

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**Author:** ![G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g-gnu/32/102029_2.png) [@G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/G-Gnu)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/53 "2013-11-29T23:26:00Z")

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> _DerFetteDetlef said:_
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> > _black1der said:_  
> > I see a bunch of heli pilots wanting easy mode like they had in BF3. Which was overpowered.
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> > Can I now use the &quot;learn to adapt&quot; line that you all gave to me in BF3?
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> > Karma’s a bitch, so go f\*\*k yourselves. If anything attack chopper needs to be even weaker, it’s still slightly overpowered it can use another nerf actually.
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> Nobody wants it to be like it was in BF3. Heli was too strong there. I agree. But they were closer to middle ground then they’re now. They nerfed it into being useless. How can you not understand that? We dont want rounds with 100-0. We want to be rewarded for good piloting skills, thats all. No need to dominate EVERYBODY.

It wasnt really OP in BF3, it got nerfed a couple of times, you still needed to know what you where doing.

When ppl think that the A-Chopper was OP in BF3 in a map as for example Kharg, it was more that the opposing team didnt have good Jet pilots or Chopper Crews and maybe a spawn camping MAA that didnt really do anything constructive. Then infantry and Tank crews might think that the A-Chopper was OP only because the chopper Crew didnt meet any resistance.

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**Author:** ![Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sarg_Scorpio)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/54 "2013-11-29T23:31:00Z")

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very true. If 1 side doesn’t even bother to take down the heli then they feel its OP. However now everyone has stingers to take it down ☹

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**Author:** ![DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DerFetteDetlef)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/55 "2013-11-29T23:32:00Z")

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> _G-Gnu said:_
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> > _DerFetteDetlef said:_
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> > > _black1der said:_  
> > > I see a bunch of heli pilots wanting easy mode like they had in BF3. Which was overpowered.
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> > > Can I now use the &amp;quot;learn to adapt&amp;quot; line that you all gave to me in BF3?
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> > > Karma’s a bitch, so go f\*\*k yourselves. If anything attack chopper needs to be even weaker, it’s still slightly overpowered it can use another nerf actually.
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> > Nobody wants it to be like it was in BF3. Heli was too strong there. I agree. But they were closer to middle ground then they’re now. They nerfed it into being useless. How can you not understand that? We dont want rounds with 100-0. We want to be rewarded for good piloting skills, thats all. No need to dominate EVERYBODY.
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> It wasnt really OP in BF3, it got nerfed a couple of times, you still needed to know what you where doing.
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> When ppl think that the A-Chopper was OP in BF3 in a map as for example Kharg, it was more that the opposing team didnt have good Jet pilots or Chopper Crews and maybe a spawn camping MAA that didnt really do anything constructive. Then infantry and Tank crews might think that the A-Chopper was OP only because the chopper Crew didnt meet any resistance.

I see your point there, but imho there weren’t enough counters in BF3 for attack choppers. They fixed that issue in BF4, but at the same point nerfed the heli in many points. Should’ve kept all the rest.

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**Author:** ![G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g-gnu/32/102029_2.png) [@G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/G-Gnu)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/56 "2013-11-29T23:34:00Z")

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> _Sarg\_Scorpio said:_  
> very true. If 1 side doesn’t even bother to take down the heli then they feel its OP. However now everyone has stingers to take it down ☹

Oh yeah, those kind of ppl thinks the A-Chopper is a e-z target these days.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD , it´s a DAMNED Attack Chopper it should bring some hurt , not running away as a stray dog.

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**Author:** ![peppaskulll](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/85e7bf/32.png) [@peppaskulll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/peppaskulll)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/57 "2013-11-29T23:41:00Z")

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BUMP!!!

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**Author:** ![dgbea](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7ba0ec/32.png) [@dgbea](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dgbea)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/58 "2013-11-29T23:48:00Z")

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> _black1der said:_  
> I see a bunch of heli pilots wanting easy mode like they had in BF3. Which was overpowered.
> 
> Can I now use the "learn to adapt" line that you all gave to me in BF3?
> 
> Karma’s a bitch, so go f\*\*k yourselves. If anything attack chopper needs to be even weaker, it’s still slightly overpowered it can use another nerf actually.

What a child. Wash the BF3 sand out of your vag because this is a different game. If you’re prone to developing emotional hangups about videogames maybe you shouldn’t be playing them.

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**Author:** ![G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g-gnu/32/102029_2.png) [@G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/G-Gnu)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/59 "2013-11-29T23:55:00Z")

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> _dgbea said:_
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> > _black1der said:_  
> > I see a bunch of heli pilots wanting easy mode like they had in BF3. Which was overpowered.
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> > Can I now use the &quot;learn to adapt&quot; line that you all gave to me in BF3?
> > 
> > Karma’s a bitch, so go f\*\*k yourselves. If anything attack chopper needs to be even weaker, it’s still slightly overpowered it can use another nerf actually.
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> What a child. Wash the BF3 sand out of vag because this is a different game. If you’re prone to developing emotional hangups about videogames maybe you shouldn’t be playing them.

The thing is, he is wrong about the A-Chopper being OP in BF3, it wasnt.

Make the changes that Sarg\_Scorpio (and DerFetteDetlef in a diffrent Thread) propos , i think we will have a working an well balanced A-Chopper.

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**Author:** ![Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sarg_Scorpio)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298/60 "2013-11-29T23:59:00Z")

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at least if they can make some changes its a start and we can work with them. However right now there is just soo much stuff that also needs fixing, then we can see how it goes and they can make some more changes 🙂

If you have more ideas keep them coming or any other interesting bugs you have come across in the attack heli.  
Ive updated it to include more ammo and the right click look around sometimes doesn’t seem to work until you get out and back in again.  
also gunners gun is like shit lol

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