# Bane of the Scout class **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 15, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122 "2016-06-15T18:14:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 10:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/61 "2016-06-19T10:34:00Z")
> [@redzuluzulu0096](#): > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > Learn to aim for the head or play cod > > Not always possible. Play cod isn’t an argument. If its not poasible then you dont deserve a kill.1hk bodyshots are completely skill less ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 11:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/62 "2016-06-19T11:22:00Z")
Blame Recon for loss, Sniper are useless and yet we see thread after thread asking for more nerfs. Example Scope Glint - Is to remain and now there is no passive spotting or audio spotting and even active spotting is harder to do at distance, however glint is kept to make it easy to spot a sniper on a hill. We have players asking for the Flare Gun to be removed and other asking for all spots to be remove while at the same time arguing against the remove of scope glint. Then they have the gall to whine about Snipers being useless. ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 11:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/63 "2016-06-19T11:26:00Z")
Snipers will always be useless because a class whose main goal is to be a coward and get occasional kills from across the map cannot work in a mode where you constantly need to be aggressive and cap flags Remove their sniper rifles,give them tools for capping like more detection tools or spawn tools and they will stop being the losers or battlefield ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 11:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/64 "2016-06-19T11:37:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > Snipers will always be useless because a class whose main goal is to be a coward and get occasional kills from across the map cannot work in a mode where you constantly need to be aggressive and cap flags > > Remove their sniper rifles,give them tools for capping like more detection tools or spawn tools and they will stop being the losers or battlefield So your answer is make Snipers even more useless. ---
**Author:** ![adsinaction](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@adsinaction](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/adsinaction)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/65 "2016-06-19T12:36:00Z")
Why is it that those that typically comment negatively on snipers either can’t aim or have zero to no recon service stars. Has anyone else witnessed this amazing phenomenon. On a serious note… I love the fact that this topic is already getting such heated attention before the games even out. Xoxoxo ---
**Author:** ![Halfa-Cree](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/halfa-cree/32/102163_2.png) [@Halfa-Cree](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Halfa-Cree)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 12:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/66 "2016-06-19T12:46:00Z")
to sniper should be 1hk on headshot at any distance, any rifle they should be the only ones able to 3d spot, every other class can only spot ‘last know location’/2d spotting (no moving dorito at all) ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 1:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/67 "2016-06-19T13:16:00Z")
> [@DingoKillr](#): > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > Snipers will always be useless because a class whose main goal is to be a coward and get occasional kills from across the map cannot work in a mode where you constantly need to be aggressive and cap flags > > > > Remove their sniper rifles,give them tools for capping like more detection tools or spawn tools and they will stop being the losers or battlefield > > So your answer is make Snipers even more useless. My answer is completely remove useless snipers and have the class focus on objective capping ---
**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/68 "2016-06-19T13:23:00Z")
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the recon class. Players just need to realize that they do have a role to play on the Battlefield. I could complain that Medics do not revive and so are useless, but we all know that is not true. It is the player that plays the Medic who is not fulfilling the role of the Medic class. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/69 "2016-06-19T13:30:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > Snipers will always be useless because a class whose main goal is to be a coward and get occasional kills from across the map cannot work in a mode where you constantly need to be aggressive and cap flags > > Remove their sniper rifles,give them tools for capping like more detection tools or spawn tools and they will stop being the losers or battlefield That’s not a problem with the sniper class being useless, that’s a problem with people who use sniper rifles being worthless. I regularly play the objective while using sniper rifles in past BF games, and I’ll do so in BF1 as well. It’s an amazing tool for getting your team to an objective quickly using spawn beacons, as well as taking out unsuspecting vehicles via said respawn beacon. Just because PEOPLE use them in a way that isn’t contributing to the objective doesn’t mean the class is “useless” in that regard. There are people who use sniper rifles while contributing directly to the team effort - they shouldn’t be stunted just because you don’t like camping bushwookies. ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/70 "2016-06-19T13:34:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > Snipers will always be useless because a class whose main goal is to be a coward and get occasional kills from across the map cannot work in a mode where you constantly need to be aggressive and cap flags > > > > Remove their sniper rifles,give them tools for capping like more detection tools or spawn tools and they will stop being the losers or battlefield > > That’s not a problem with the sniper class being useless, that’s a problem with people who use sniper rifles being worthless. > > I regularly play the objective while using sniper rifles in past BF games, and I’ll do so in BF1 as well. It’s an amazing tool for getting your team to an objective quickly using spawn beacons, as well as taking out unsuspecting vehicles via said respawn beacon. > > Just because PEOPLE use them in a way that isn’t contributing to the objective doesn’t mean the class is “useless” in that regard. There are people who use sniper rifles while contributing directly to the team effort - they shouldn’t be stunted just because you don’t like camping bushwookies. Any useful recon there is doesnt use a sniper rifle,its bad for capping.Unless youre doing it for fun,in which case you dont need a 20 or 40 scope ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/71 "2016-06-19T13:41:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > Snipers will always be useless because a class whose main goal is to be a coward and get occasional kills from across the map cannot work in a mode where you constantly need to be aggressive and cap flags > > > > > > Remove their sniper rifles,give them tools for capping like more detection tools or spawn tools and they will stop being the losers or battlefield > > > > That’s not a problem with the sniper class being useless, that’s a problem with people who use sniper rifles being worthless. > > > > I regularly play the objective while using sniper rifles in past BF games, and I’ll do so in BF1 as well. It’s an amazing tool for getting your team to an objective quickly using spawn beacons, as well as taking out unsuspecting vehicles via said respawn beacon. > > > > Just because PEOPLE use them in a way that isn’t contributing to the objective doesn’t mean the class is “useless” in that regard. There are people who use sniper rifles while contributing directly to the team effort - they shouldn’t be stunted just because you don’t like camping bushwookies. > > Any useful recon there is doesnt use a sniper rifle,its bad for capping.Unless youre doing it for fun,in which case you dont need a 20 or 40 scope Are you serious? Have you never heard of aggressive sniper players? There are quite a few of us (on BL I was in a platoon made up entirely of them), and we can effectively use sniper rifles in CQB situations to cap bases. I never had a problem doing it. [http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/64/618501485555434304/231645709/](http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/64/618501485555434304/231645709/) [http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/64/619938148089104576/231645709/](http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/64/619938148089104576/231645709/) [http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/64/623711604954186560/231645709/](http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/64/623711604954186560/231645709/) [http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/64/628069740961953664/231645709/](http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/64/628069740961953664/231645709/) [http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/64/483066657098435008/231645709/](http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/64/483066657098435008/231645709/) You don’t need a 20 or 40x scope to be a “sniper”. ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 1:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/72 "2016-06-19T13:45:00Z")
Labels himself aggressive sniper 4 flag caps Just get a carbine.No such thing as a useful player with a sniper rifle ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 1:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/73 "2016-06-19T13:50:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > Labels himself aggressive sniper > 4 flag caps > > Just get a carbine.No such thing as a useful player with a sniper rifle > Sees 4 flag caps > Forgets to mention the fact that the other team was being pubstomped in terms of team performance > Forgets to mention the fact that I got nearly 50 kills running around with a bolt-action > Forgets to mention I got a 700+ SPM and was still MVP without camping Sorry, but camping snipers don’t get 50 kills in a match, and the majority of them can’t even break 25% accuracy. Implying I’m not aggressive is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/74 "2016-06-19T13:51:00Z")
I directly support the team every game I play, yet I’m worthless because I use a sniper rifle? Seriously, grab some logic on your next trip to the Bull store. ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/75 "2016-06-19T13:52:00Z")
There is no reason to use a sniper rifle if you going to play cqb.You obviously do it so you can boast about your unorthodox playstyle bit the fact is that you should rather use a carbine.Sniper rifles promote camping and not playing the objective. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/76 "2016-06-19T14:03:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > There is no reason to use a sniper rifle if you going to play cqb.You obviously do it so you can boast about your unorthodox playstyle bit the fact is that you should rather use a carbine.Sniper rifles promote camping and not playing the objective. I barely even bring up the fact that I use sniper rifles unless said thread is directly about sniper rifles. You know…like this thread. I’m better with sniper rifles than I am with carbines by a mile - carbines suck. It doesn’t always boil down to what weapon you think is best and that other people will perform better with. I don’t need a weapon capable of spraying and praying - I’m accurate enough to use a sniper rifle and still be effective in CQB, that’s not a brag, that’s just a truth that NEEDS to be expressed when almost EVERYONE in this dull \*\*\* community will accuse you of being a camper simply because you LIKE using sniper rifles, and, like you, will call you worthless no matter how much you contribute to the team effort, even if you cap the most objectives and are MVP for the match. ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/77 "2016-06-19T15:10:00Z")
Use a carbine.They dont suck,they have 0.3 sec ttk with bodyshots compared to having to shoot the head,or 2 second ttk with bodyshot and switch to pistol.There is literally absolutely no scenario where a bolt is better in cqb except if you can 100% hit the head every time and never miss,and always facing one opponent ---
**Author:** ![redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/redzuluzulu0096)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/78 "2016-06-19T15:40:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > Use a carbine.They dont suck,they have 0.3 sec ttk with bodyshots compared to having to shoot the head,or 2 second ttk with bodyshot and switch to pistol.There is literally absolutely no scenario where a bolt is better in cqb except if you can 100% hit the head every time and never miss,and always facing one opponent We’ll use whatever we want to use. Go play something else if you’re just going to be a crybaby elitist. It’s a god damn war game series. They’re not going to be removing snipers at any point in the future regardless of how much whining you class elitists do. God why is it so hard to get simple logic across when you’re dealing with edgelord teenagers? ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/79 "2016-06-19T15:43:00Z")
> [@redzuluzulu0096](#): > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > Use a carbine.They dont suck,they have 0.3 sec ttk with bodyshots compared to having to shoot the head,or 2 second ttk with bodyshot and switch to pistol.There is literally absolutely no scenario where a bolt is better in cqb except if you can 100% hit the head every time and never miss,and always facing one opponent > > We’ll use whatever we want to use. Go play something else if you’re just going to be a crybaby elitist. > It’s a god damn war game series. They’re not going to be removing snipers at any point in the future regardless of how much whining you class elitists do. > > God why is it so hard to get simple logic across when you’re dealing with edgelord teenagers? Lol so much salt.That was my opinion on what the game should do.If you disagree,just ignore my posts and keep being a wookie.No need to get angry even though you are on your period ---
**Author:** ![redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/redzuluzulu0096)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122/80 "2016-06-19T15:51:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > [@redzuluzulu0096](#): > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > Use a carbine.They dont suck,they have 0.3 sec ttk with bodyshots compared to having to shoot the head,or 2 second ttk with bodyshot and switch to pistol.There is literally absolutely no scenario where a bolt is better in cqb except if you can 100% hit the head every time and never miss,and always facing one opponent > > > > We’ll use whatever we want to use. Go play something else if you’re just going to be a crybaby elitist. > > It’s a god damn war game series. They’re not going to be removing snipers at any point in the future regardless of how much whining you class elitists do. > > > > God why is it so hard to get simple logic across when you’re dealing with edgelord teenagers? > > Lol so much salt.That was my opinion on what the game should do.If you disagree,just ignore my posts and keep being a wookie.No need to get angry even though you are on your period 1. I’m not a wookie by any stretch of the imagination 2. You’re in every scout related thread calling them useless 2. “on your period” Guess I was right on the mark about you being an egdy teenager. Grow up kid. 3. I’ve been a Battlefield player long enough to know every class is potentially useless. Hate the player, not the game. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122.md?page=3) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bane-of-the-scout-class/102122.md?page=5)