# Banning cheats permanently **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775 "2016-06-10T19:30:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThoriumPower)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/1 "2016-06-10T19:30:00Z")
EA/Dice should follow suit [http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/](http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/) ---
**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/2 "2016-06-10T19:38:00Z")
they already do this. it just goes through punkbuster and evenbalance/Fairplay. ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/3 "2016-06-10T19:40:00Z")
> [@ThoriumPower](#): > > EA/Dice should follow suit > > [http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/](http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/) EA has it’s own Terms of Service (TOS) team that reviews all potential infractions. Word is that this TOS team is slow to respond to gamer reports and even slower to exact any sort of punishment. ---
**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/4 "2016-06-10T19:44:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > EA/Dice should follow suit > > > > [http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/](http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/) > > EA has it’s own Terms of Service (TOS) team that reviews all potential infractions. > Word is that this TOS team is slow to respond to gamer reports and even slower to exact any sort of punishment. they’re slow to respond because losers flood their reports with fake reports or mistaken reports. there’s so much paranoia about hacks (and a healthy dose of dunning kruger) that the TOS team is constantly behind having to sift through tons of false reports. They’re not slow, they’re just being crushed under reports generated from bad gamers who cant admit they suck and abuse the report system. ---
**Author:** ![ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThoriumPower)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/5 "2016-06-10T19:47:00Z")
> [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > > EA/Dice should follow suit > > > > > > [http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/](http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/) > > > > EA has it’s own Terms of Service (TOS) team that reviews all potential infractions. > > Word is that this TOS team is slow to respond to gamer reports and even slower to exact any sort of punishment. > > they’re slow to respond because losers flood their reports with fake reports or mistaken reports. there’s so much paranoia about hacks (and a healthy dose of dunning kruger) that the TOS team is constantly behind having to sift through tons of false reports. > > They’re not slow, they’re just being crushed under reports generated from bad gamers who cant admit they suck and abuse the report system. Yet 30000 got banned from division…so they need to do what these guys are doing ---
**Author:** ![Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/keif68/32/100928_2.png) [@Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Keif68)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/6 "2016-06-10T19:49:00Z")
> [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > > EA/Dice should follow suit > > > > > > [http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/](http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/) > > > > EA has it’s own Terms of Service (TOS) team that reviews all potential infractions. > > Word is that this TOS team is slow to respond to gamer reports and even slower to exact any sort of punishment. > > they’re slow to respond because losers flood their reports with fake reports or mistaken reports. there’s so much paranoia about hacks (and a healthy dose of dunning kruger) that the TOS team is constantly behind having to sift through tons of false reports. > > They’re not slow, they’re just being crushed under reports generated from bad gamers who cant admit they suck and abuse the report system. That’s probably true. I have friends on both consoles that get banned for cheating because they’re too good. ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolMinnow](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@ThePoolMinnow](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolMinnow)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/7 "2016-06-10T19:54:00Z")
> [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > > EA/Dice should follow suit > > > > > > [http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/](http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/) > > > > EA has it’s own Terms of Service (TOS) team that reviews all potential infractions. > > Word is that this TOS team is slow to respond to gamer reports and even slower to exact any sort of punishment. > > they’re slow to respond because losers flood their reports with fake reports or mistaken reports. there’s so much paranoia about hacks (and a healthy dose of dunning kruger) that the TOS team is constantly behind having to sift through tons of false reports. > > They’re not slow, they’re just being crushed under reports generated from bad gamers who cant admit they suck and abuse the report system. This is exactly why it takes forever. ---
**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/8 "2016-06-10T19:54:00Z")
> [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > > > > EA/Dice should follow suit > > > > > > > > [http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/](http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/) > > > > > > EA has it’s own Terms of Service (TOS) team that reviews all potential infractions. > > > Word is that this TOS team is slow to respond to gamer reports and even slower to exact any sort of punishment. > > > > they’re slow to respond because losers flood their reports with fake reports or mistaken reports. there’s so much paranoia about hacks (and a healthy dose of dunning kruger) that the TOS team is constantly behind having to sift through tons of false reports. > > > > They’re not slow, they’re just being crushed under reports generated from bad gamers who cant admit they suck and abuse the report system. > > Yet 30000 got banned from division…so they need to do what these guys are doing and? they’re different games with different sizes. its probably easier to administer that game the way they do their servers ---
**Author:** ![ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThoriumPower)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/9 "2016-06-10T20:03:00Z")
> [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > > > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > > > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > > > > > > EA/Dice should follow suit > > > > > > > > > > [http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/](http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/) > > > > > > > > EA has it’s own Terms of Service (TOS) team that reviews all potential infractions. > > > > Word is that this TOS team is slow to respond to gamer reports and even slower to exact any sort of punishment. > > > > > > they’re slow to respond because losers flood their reports with fake reports or mistaken reports. there’s so much paranoia about hacks (and a healthy dose of dunning kruger) that the TOS team is constantly behind having to sift through tons of false reports. > > > > > > They’re not slow, they’re just being crushed under reports generated from bad gamers who cant admit they suck and abuse the report system. > > > > Yet 30000 got banned from division…so they need to do what these guys are doing > > and? they’re different games with different sizes. its probably easier to administer that game the way they do their servers How many people have been banned or banned permanently that would of made them change their hardware to play on a new copy via EA TOS. Probably easy to have a guess. ---
**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/10 "2016-06-10T20:07:00Z")
> [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > > > [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > EA/Dice should follow suit > > > > > > > > > > > > [http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/](http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/) > > > > > > > > > > EA has it’s own Terms of Service (TOS) team that reviews all potential infractions. > > > > > Word is that this TOS team is slow to respond to gamer reports and even slower to exact any sort of punishment. > > > > > > > > they’re slow to respond because losers flood their reports with fake reports or mistaken reports. there’s so much paranoia about hacks (and a healthy dose of dunning kruger) that the TOS team is constantly behind having to sift through tons of false reports. > > > > > > > > They’re not slow, they’re just being crushed under reports generated from bad gamers who cant admit they suck and abuse the report system. > > > > > > Yet 30000 got banned from division…so they need to do what these guys are doing > > > > and? they’re different games with different sizes. its probably easier to administer that game the way they do their servers > > How many people have been banned or banned permanently that would of made them change their hardware to play on a new copy via EA TOS. Probably easy to have a guess. by EA? a few. by punkbuster/fairplay? far more than 30k. you do know how easy it is to spoof hardware IDs, right? ---
**Author:** ![ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThoriumPower)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/11 "2016-06-10T20:16:00Z")
> [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > > > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Sir-xer21](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@ThoriumPower](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EA/Dice should follow suit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/](http://pixelgate.co.uk/the-division-cheaters-will-be-permanently-banned-on-first-offence/) > > > > > > > > > > > > EA has it’s own Terms of Service (TOS) team that reviews all potential infractions. > > > > > > Word is that this TOS team is slow to respond to gamer reports and even slower to exact any sort of punishment. > > > > > > > > > > they’re slow to respond because losers flood their reports with fake reports or mistaken reports. there’s so much paranoia about hacks (and a healthy dose of dunning kruger) that the TOS team is constantly behind having to sift through tons of false reports. > > > > > > > > > > They’re not slow, they’re just being crushed under reports generated from bad gamers who cant admit they suck and abuse the report system. > > > > > > > > Yet 30000 got banned from division…so they need to do what these guys are doing > > > > > > and? they’re different games with different sizes. its probably easier to administer that game the way they do their servers > > > > How many people have been banned or banned permanently that would of made them change their hardware to play on a new copy via EA TOS. Probably easy to have a guess. > > by EA? a few. > > by punkbuster/fairplay? far more than 30k. > > you do know how easy it is to spoof hardware IDs, right? link please ---
**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/12 "2016-06-10T20:24:00Z")
a link to what? ---
**Author:** ![stinky\_herbs](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/stinky_herbs/32/103621_2.png) [@stinky\_herbs](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stinky_herbs)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/13 "2016-06-10T21:03:00Z")
Ban them 4ever :3 ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/14 "2016-06-10T21:04:00Z")
> [@i\_iwashi](#): > > Ban them 4ever :3 I second your motion. ---
**Author:** ![rock1obsta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rock1obsta/32/103288_2.png) [@rock1obsta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rock1obsta)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/15 "2016-06-11T04:20:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > > [@i\_iwashi](#): > > > > Ban them 4ever :3 > > I second your motion. I concur ---
**Author:** ![pHill-Ace](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a88e57/32.png) [@pHill-Ace](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pHill-Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 4:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/16 "2016-06-11T04:39:00Z")
+1 for permabans Seriously what is this temp ban/stat reset rubbish? Once a cheat, always a cheat. Also two step verification via phone number should become mandatory for all accounts. That way returning cheats will have the added hassle of registering a new number for each new account they create. ---
**Author:** ![Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/keif68/32/100928_2.png) [@Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Keif68)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/17 "2016-06-11T04:46:00Z")
> [@pHill-Ace](#): > > +1 for permabans > > Seriously what is this temp ban/stat reset rubbish? Once a cheat, always a cheat. > > Also two step verification via phone number should become mandatory for all accounts. That way returning cheats will have the added hassle of registering a new number for each new account they create. I’m all for making it as hard as possible for cheaters to return. Pathetic . ---
**Author:** ![rock1obsta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rock1obsta/32/103288_2.png) [@rock1obsta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rock1obsta)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/18 "2016-06-11T05:56:00Z")
A new phone number in addition to new account is brilliant. Such a simple requirement to enforce. Get ON this EA/DICE. ---
**Author:** ![Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/keif68/32/100928_2.png) [@Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Keif68)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 5:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/banning-cheats-permanently/101775/19 "2016-06-11T05:59:00Z")
> [@rock1obsta](#): > > A new phone number in addition to new account is brilliant. Such a simple requirement to enforce. > Get ON this EA/DICE. [![Video: For Frodo](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/f/7/f7316f3b601b5215a01424912dbba05b9ec6aa50.jpeg "For Frodo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYlVguHwfY)