# Battlefest Revision 1 Feedback. Only 1 Tsar skins again!? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 19, 2017, 11:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186 "2017-09-19T11:55:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/4491bb/32.png) [@HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HandsomeBearCub)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 11:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/1 "2017-09-19T11:55:00Z")
## [Link to section: TLDR: I’m quite disappointed at how they’ve apparently decided to distribute the remaining Tsar skins over several revisions. This level of RNG sucks for those of us who can’t spend considerable amoun](#tldr-im-quite-disappointed-at-how-theyve-apparently-decided-to-distribute-the-remaining-tsar-skins-over-several-revisions-this-level-of-rng-sucks-for-those-of-us-who-cant-spend-considerable-amounts-of-money-on-battlepacks-waiting-isnt-fun-when-you-play-the-game-as-much-as-i-do-and-i-wouldnt-play-less-if-i-had-access-to-dlc-skins-earlier-so-i-really-dont-understand-why-theyve-decided-to-go-this-route-are-they-fishing-for-whales-or-think-people-will-play-the-game-more-because-they-dont-have-x-skin-1)TLDR: I’m quite disappointed at how they’ve apparently decided to distribute the remaining Tsar skins over several revisions. This level of RNG sucks for those of us who can’t spend considerable amounts of money on battlepacks. Waiting isn’t fun when you play the game as much as I do and I wouldn’t play less if I had access to DLC skins earlier, so I really don’t understand why they’ve decided to go this route. Are they fishing for whales or think people will play the game more because they don’t have x skin? ## [Link to section: So for those who haven’t payed attention, the first revision after the Tsar DLC became available to premium users had 5 of the new legendary Tsar weapon skins + 1 more in the exchange category. The se](#so-for-those-who-havent-payed-attention-the-first-revision-after-the-tsar-dlc-became-available-to-premium-users-had-5-of-the-new-legendary-tsar-weapon-skins-1-more-in-the-exchange-category-the-second-revision-had-1-the-obrez-legendary-skin-the-current-one-also-only-has-1-the-general-liu-legendary-skin-now-apparently-the-battlefest-revisions-will-only-last-for-three-days-each-which-will-also-be-relevant-to-my-disappointment-since-you-got-less-time-to-grind-scraps-for-the-gamble-2)So for those who haven’t payed attention, the first revision after the Tsar DLC became available to premium users had 5 of the new legendary Tsar weapon skins + 1 more in the exchange category. The second revision had 1, the Obrez legendary skin. The current one also only has 1, the General Liu legendary skin. Now, apparently the “Battlefest Revisions” will only last for three days each which will also be relevant to my disappointment since you got less time to grind scraps for the gamble. ## [Link to section: Okay, so the only reason for the apparent 1 Tsar legendary skin per revision I can fathom is that they don’t want players who’ve spent a lot of time playing the game getting access to all or most of t](#okay-so-the-only-reason-for-the-apparent-1-tsar-legendary-skin-per-revision-i-can-fathom-is-that-they-dont-want-players-whove-spent-a-lot-of-time-playing-the-game-getting-access-to-all-or-most-of-the-tsar-legendary-skins-the-first-time-they-appear-players-like-me-who-already-have-most-or-all-of-the-previous-legendary-skins-that-they-wantedexcluding-super-rare-ones-ofc-and-have-been-saving-up-scraps-for-the-tsar-legendaries-they-want-what-this-1-tsar-legendary-per-revision-regime-does-is-it-makes-it-pretty-much-impossible-for-anyone-who-cant-blackmail-lady-fortuneor-pay-vast-sums-of-rl-money-for-regular-battlepacks-to-acquire-even-two-of-the-remaining-three-tsar-legendary-skinsacquiring-one-seems-doable-for-those-that-didnt-spend-all-their-scraps-in-the-first-tsar-revision-and-therefore-missed-out-on-a-couple-in-that-one-3)Okay, so the only reason for the apparent 1 Tsar legendary skin per revision I can fathom is that they don’t want players who’ve spent a lot of time playing the game getting access to all or most of the Tsar legendary skins the first time they appear. Players like me who already have most or all of the previous legendary skins that they **wanted** (excluding super rare ones ofc) and have been saving up scraps for the Tsar legendaries they want. What this 1 Tsar legendary per revision regime does is it makes it pretty much impossible for anyone who can’t blackmail Lady Fortune(or pay vast sums of RL money for regular battlepacks) to acquire even _two_ of the remaining three Tsar legendary skins…acquiring one seems doable for those that didn’t spend all their scraps in the first Tsar revision and therefore missed out on a couple in that one. ## [Link to section: I had around 10k scraps when the first one came out and was able to acquire 4/6 from the first revision(including the exchange one). I missed one that I wanted becuase I was saving scraps to get the O](#i-had-around-10k-scraps-when-the-first-one-came-out-and-was-able-to-acquire-46-from-the-first-revisionincluding-the-exchange-one-i-missed-one-that-i-wanted-becuase-i-was-saving-scraps-to-get-the-obrez-and-moson-nagant-m91-skins-when-they-became-available-and-didnt-trust-my-luck-second-revision-comes-around-and-it-only-had-the-obrez-skin-i-ended-up-having-to-spend-3600-scraps-to-get-that-one-which-is-below-the-average-you-have-to-spend-to-acquire-any-single-legendary-from-a-revision-for-those-of-us-who-want-the-remaining-three-skins-for-the-general-liu-mosin-nagant-m91-and-model-1900-would-then-assuming-17-chance-as-the-current-one-is-have-to-sit-on-6300-per-revision-to-even-have-the-average-chance-of-acquiring-one-of-them-and-even-then-youd-have-to-sit-on-about-twice-to-reasonably-guarantee-the-one-you-wanted-4)I had around 10k scraps when the first one came out and was able to acquire 4/6 from the first revision(including the exchange one). I missed one that I wanted becuase I was saving scraps to get the Obrez and Moson-Nagant M91 skins when they became available and didn’t trust my luck. Second revision comes around and it only had the Obrez skin, I ended up having to spend 3600 scraps to get that one which is **below the average** you have to spend to acquire any single legendary from a revision. For those of us who want the remaining three skins for the: General Liu, Mosin-Nagant m91 and Model 1900 would then, assuming 1/7 chance as the current one is, have to sit on 6300 per revision to even have the average chance of acquiring _one_ of them. And even then you’d have to sit on about twice to reasonably guarantee the one you wanted. ## [Link to section: As for regular battlepacks, I played close to 100 games last revision and got 1 legendary from the rewarded battlepacks, 0 the revision before that and I played a lot that week too, so the odds of get](#as-for-regular-battlepacks-i-played-close-to-100-games-last-revision-and-got-1-legendary-from-the-rewarded-battlepacks-0-the-revision-before-that-and-i-played-a-lot-that-week-too-so-the-odds-of-getting-the-one-you-want-that-way-is-negligable-in-my-experience-5)As for regular battlepacks, I played close to 100 games last revision and got 1 legendary from the rewarded battlepacks, 0 the revision before that and I played a lot that week too, so the odds of getting the one you want that way is negligable in my experience. ## [Link to section: Yes I realize that they will eventually come as exchange legendaries and be included in future revisions but the insane RNG involved in getting 1 legendary skin out of a whole revision is incredibly f](#yes-i-realize-that-they-will-eventually-come-as-exchange-legendaries-and-be-included-in-future-revisions-but-the-insane-rng-involved-in-getting-1-legendary-skin-out-of-a-whole-revision-is-incredibly-frustrating-even-for-people-who-arent-expecting-to-acquire-all-legendaries-for-all-weapons-which-im-notbarring-all-rifles-ofc-p-i-understand-that-rng-is-subconciously-making-people-who-are-interested-in-their-weapon-appearance-play-more-but-atleast-for-me-its-taking-away-from-the-fun-a-lot-when-you-dont-even-have-a-reasonable-way-of-securely-bypassing-it-by-playing-a-ton-especially-considering-that-superior-battlepacks-can-give-you-the-same-legendaries-several-times-if-they-were-to-remove-the-duplicate-chance-and-increase-the-scrap-price-of-superior-battlepacks-or-bundle-dlc-weapon-skins-into-one-or-two-revisions-the-weeks-after-release-id-be-a-lot-happier-6)Yes I realize that they will eventually come as exchange legendaries and be included in future revisions but the _insane_ RNG involved in getting 1 legendary skin out of a whole revision is incredibly frustrating even for people who aren’t expecting to acquire all legendaries for all weapons, which I’m not(barring all rifles, ofc ;p). I understand that RNG is subconciously making people who are interested in their weapon appearance play more but, atleast for me, it’s taking away from the fun a lot when you don’t even have a reasonable way of securely bypassing it by playing **a ton**. Especially considering that Superior Battlepacks can give you the same legendaries _several times_. If they were to remove the duplicate chance and increase the scrap price of Superior Battlepacks **or** bundle DLC weapon skins into one or two revisions the weeks after release I’d be _a lot_ happier. P.S. That turned out to be quite a rant…please share your opinion, I can’t be the only one who dislikes the way they’re handling this? _Edit: Wanted to add that I think it’s great that they added a super rare skin in the exchange category, even though I’m not interested in this one, I’m sure people who are will enjoy it a lot._ ---
**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 12:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/2 "2017-09-19T12:01:00Z")
Got Liu skin from the 3rd superior pack. And heavy tank from the 2nd. Not sure about you but I’m pretty satisfied with current revision. ---
**Author:** ![HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/4491bb/32.png) [@HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HandsomeBearCub)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 12:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/3 "2017-09-19T12:15:00Z")
> [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > Got Liu skin from the 3rd superior pack. And heavy tank from the 2nd. Not sure about you but I’m pretty satisfied with current revision. Are you serious .\_. ---
**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/4 "2017-09-19T12:21:00Z")
> [@handsomebear89](#): > > > [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > > > Got Liu skin from the 3rd superior pack. And heavy tank from the 2nd. Not sure about you but I’m pretty satisfied with current revision. > > Are you serious .\_. 100% serious. I’m just very lucky with legendary skins. ---
**Author:** ![kaliyl777](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kaliyl777/32/102459_2.png) [@kaliyl777](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kaliyl777)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 12:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/5 "2017-09-19T12:28:00Z")
The only General liu skin i dont like. I was hopeing for the blue skin. ---
**Author:** ![HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/4491bb/32.png) [@HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HandsomeBearCub)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/6 "2017-09-19T12:31:00Z")
> [@kaliyl777](#): > > The only General liu skin i dont like. I was hopeing for the blue skin. Yeah I find it quite confusing that they haven’t added any of those at all to any revision so far… ---
**Author:** ![MarxistDictator](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/marxistdictator/32/102751_2.png) [@MarxistDictator](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MarxistDictator)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 12:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/7 "2017-09-19T12:42:00Z")
Words can’t express my disappointment. Still no skins for the Mosin or 1900 and now they want me to sacrifice my scrap pile for a single general liu skin. I’m actually most annoyed at the continuing lack of blue skins for the ITNOTT guns, anyone who saw them as well when they were up in the CTE knows what I mean. One of the 1900 distinguished skins looks 100 times better than the legendary it gets But no dice doesn’t want us to have new skins for our new guns, yet more hurr muh progression tripe probably. I think I’m just going to buy The Care Package. and then upload me scrapping it for hardaimedkid \>🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ferdinand_j_foch/32/101936_2.png) [@Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ferdinand_J_Foch)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/8 "2017-09-19T12:49:00Z")
Yes, the Liu has some really nice Special and Distinguished skins. For example, there was one Special skin with black wooden furniture and copper metal. There was also a Distinguished skin with black, engraved wood, with polished silver. In this revision, we’ve only gotten one skin, and it’s the hardest one to get. I remember a few people saying that all of the non-Legendary skins for the ITNOTT weapons will start rolling out once the DLC is live for everyone, not just Premium players. Well, the DLC is about to release in a day or two, and we see no sign of these skins. If the other Battlefest revisions are similar to this one, then I’ll be highly disappointed. I’ve already opened two Superiors, and didn’t get anything new. So now, I have two days to cough up enough scraps for another Superior. I don’t understand why DICE has to make this so complicated. Sure, they’re just skins that don’t impact the game very much, and I don’t like the Liu rifle all that much either, but it feels like DICE is trying to play us for fools yet again… ---
**Author:** ![HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/4491bb/32.png) [@HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HandsomeBearCub)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/9 "2017-09-19T15:59:00Z")
> [@MarxistDictator](#): > > Words can’t express my disappointment. Still no skins for the Mosin or 1900 and now they want me to sacrifice my scrap pile for a single general liu skin. > > I’m actually most annoyed at the continuing lack of blue skins for the ITNOTT guns, anyone who saw them as well when they were up in the CTE knows what I mean. One of the 1900 distinguished skins looks 100 times better than the legendary it gets > > But no dice doesn’t want us to have new skins for our new guns, yet more hurr muh progression tripe probably. I think I’m just going to buy The Care Package. > > and then upload me scrapping it for hardaimedkid \>🙂 I was really looking forward to the 1900 and Mosin-Nagant skins as well. It seems now that I have to settle on one if I want to have a good chance at getting it \>\_x ---
**Author:** ![Sawdog98](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sawdog98](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sawdog98)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/10 "2017-09-20T01:13:00Z")
Really bummed I dont just happen to have 10,000 scraps laying around for the care package m1911 skin. I tried grinding really hard last week because I wanted “the man stopper” but had no luck. Anyone know if either of these are coming back to battlepacks in the future? Love my m1911 ---
**Author:** ![RudeAwakeningEh](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rudeawakeningeh/32/103319_2.png) [@RudeAwakeningEh](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RudeAwakeningEh)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/11 "2017-09-20T01:29:00Z")
So far I’ve opened roughly 10 superior battle packs in hopes of getting the Liu skin and have gotten the same two gun skins 5 times each. ---
**Author:** ![ARingdal](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aringdal/32/101223_2.png) [@ARingdal](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ARingdal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/12 "2017-09-20T01:37:00Z")
Forget about skins…, dog tags mate…, dog tags… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mihai2011rom](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mihai2011rom/32/102807_2.png) [@mihai2011rom](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mihai2011rom)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/13 "2017-09-20T01:56:00Z")
There will be 4 battlefest revisions. The dlc skins will be available by the end of the event. ---
**Author:** ![AaronTheZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aaronthezombie/32/101126_2.png) [@AaronTheZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AaronTheZombie)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/14 "2017-09-20T02:06:00Z")
EA must be in-charge of battlepacks, no other explanation makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/4491bb/32.png) [@HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HandsomeBearCub)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 8:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/15 "2017-09-20T08:48:00Z")
> [@mihai2011rom](#): > > There will be 4 battlefest revisions. **The dlc skins will be available by the end of the event.** On what do you base this? If they’ve publicly stated that all the DLC skins will be available in some revision please gief link. ---
**Author:** ![HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/4491bb/32.png) [@HandsomeBearCub](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HandsomeBearCub)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 9:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefest-revision-1-feedback-only-1-tsar-skins-again/103186/16 "2017-09-20T09:28:00Z")
> [@mihai2011rom](#): > > There will be 4 battlefest revisions. **The dlc skins will be available by the end of the event.** Do you have a link that confirms this or are you only guessing?