# Battlefield 1 the new BF4 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 20, 2016, 8:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322 "2016-06-20T08:58:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/21 "2016-06-20T22:36:00Z")
> [@A\_warped\_mind](#): > > Then I suggest go back and play BF2 or Project reality. > > Things change, business changes people will have fun no matter what they do to the BF franchise, iv’e seen gaming change so much from my very first game (circa 1977) to the latest one i’m playing (2016 DOOM) 39 years of gaming since I was 9 years old. > > Fun is calculated by many millions of players in many different ways so game companies aim or target their games to everyone and not just one section of the gaming community ( so all can have fun in what ever way they choose to have it) > > In BF you have private servers where rules can be set to appeal to certain groups for them to enjoy the game that’s suited to their needs and their enjoyment. no one misses out. > > A wider gaming community for all is better for games and game companies and the gamers that play them. Couldn’t have said it better. ---
**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/22 "2016-06-20T22:46:00Z")
> [@A\_warped\_mind](#): > > Then I suggest go back and play BF2 or Project reality. > > Things change, business changes people will have fun no matter what they do to the BF franchise, iv’e seen gaming change so much from my very first game (circa 1977) to the latest one i’m playing (2016 DOOM) 39 years of gaming since I was 9 years old. > > Fun is calculated by many millions of players in many different ways so game companies aim or target their games to everyone and not just one section of the gaming community ( so all can have fun in what ever way they choose to have it) > > In BF you have private servers where rules can be set to appeal to certain groups for them to enjoy the game that’s suited to their needs and their enjoyment. no one misses out. > > A wider gaming community for all is better for games and game companies and the gamers that play them. True enough but adding Auto heal, repair, 3D spotting, BF4 gadgets, less recoil, overall reducing the complexity of the game has made the game more fun? ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/23 "2016-06-20T22:54:00Z")
> [@MartinBabl](#): > > > [@A\_warped\_mind](#): > > > > Then I suggest go back and play BF2 or Project reality. > > > > Things change, business changes people will have fun no matter what they do to the BF franchise, iv’e seen gaming change so much from my very first game (circa 1977) to the latest one i’m playing (2016 DOOM) 39 years of gaming since I was 9 years old. > > > > Fun is calculated by many millions of players in many different ways so game companies aim or target their games to everyone and not just one section of the gaming community ( so all can have fun in what ever way they choose to have it) > > > > In BF you have private servers where rules can be set to appeal to certain groups for them to enjoy the game that’s suited to their needs and their enjoyment. no one misses out. > > > > A wider gaming community for all is better for games and game companies and the gamers that play them. > > True enough but adding Auto heal, repair, 3D spotting, BF4 gadgets, less recoil, overall reducing the complexity of the game has made the game more fun? Maybe not for you, but that’s entirely subjective. “Fun” by nature, is an opinion-fueled word. ---
**Author:** ![A\_warped\_mind](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/a_warped_mind/32/101124_2.png) [@A\_warped\_mind](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/A_warped_mind)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/24 "2016-06-20T22:56:00Z")
> [@MartinBabl](#): > > True enough but adding Auto heal, repair, 3D spotting, BF4 gadgets, less recoil, overall reducing the complexity of the game has made the game more fun? It’s made it more fun to those who like it so yes. And anyway Repair requires team work someone extra to repair a vehicle while the driver/pilot etc etc does their thing,3D spotting is teamwork orientated you spot team mates see enemies they get kills you get assists you win. BF4 gadgets well we are in BF1 so those gadgets are not applicable to this era but what we have is relevant to WWI and authentic in their application so who’s to say they don’t require or help with teamwork. Less recoil from what iv’e seen in the BF1 trailers there is recoil whether it’s relevant to the time period who knows we were not present at that time and the Devs usually go and test actual guns from the time period they are setting their game in. As for the complexity of the game Conquest is conquest it’s been the same from day one or Conquest Assault like the original , Rush is Rush, TDM is TDM there is nothing complex about the game modes the onlt time it becomes complex to us is when us players make it so. PS; back on 3D spotting and auto heal etc etc etc you have a Hardcore mode or Classic mode which harks back to the BF2 days or the early days of BF so play that. PS:So whats wrong with making it fun for everyone PPS: iv’e been playing BF since CODENAME EAGLE (circa 1999) the game that started the entire BF franchise. ---
**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/25 "2016-06-20T23:44:00Z")
> [@A\_warped\_mind](#): > > > [@MartinBabl](#): > > > > True enough but adding Auto heal, repair, 3D spotting, BF4 gadgets, less recoil, overall reducing the complexity of the game has made the game more fun? > > It’s made it more fun to those who like it so yes. > > And anyway Repair requires team work someone extra to repair a vehicle while the driver/pilot etc etc does their thing,3D spotting is teamwork orientated you spot team mates see enemies they get kills you get assists you win. > BF4 gadgets well we are in BF1 so those gadgets are not applicable to this era but what we have is relevant to WWI and authentic in their application so who’s to say they don’t require or help with teamwork. > > Less recoil from what iv’e seen in the BF1 trailers there is recoil whether it’s relevant to the time period who knows we were not present at that time and the Devs usually go and test actual guns from the time period they are setting their game in. > > As for the complexity of the game Conquest is conquest it’s been the same from day one or Conquest Assault like the original , Rush is Rush, TDM is TDM there is nothing complex about the game modes the onlt time it becomes complex to us is when us players make it so. > > PS; back on 3D spotting and auto heal etc etc etc you have a Hardcore mode or Classic mode which harks back to the BF2 days or the early days of BF so play that. > > PS:So whats wrong with making it fun for everyone > > PPS: iv’e been playing BF since CODENAME EAGLE (circa 1999) the game that started the entire BF franchise. Autoheal and repair does not require teamwork. Spotting well yeah is not being done much in most Battlefield 4 games. Yeah it is so much fun when the game points out the enemy for you and all you have to do is aim and click. Those gadgets are coming for us in Battlefield 1. Less recoil compared to Battlefield 1942. The devs will make it fun for everyone and that means less recoil as recoil control is a bit more complex and not the average joe skill. Conquest maps have been becoming more smaller, flags are closer to each other, and a lot more linear. As for the other game modes, DICE should design the map with the game mode in mind. Yeah I hope there is hardcore. But DICE has not said anything about it. We are also not totally sure how the servers will work. Everyone can have fun but don’t dumb the game down. 3D spotting, Autoheal, Autorepair Then I take it you are also going to play hardcore :), no more 3D spotting. ---
**Author:** ![dartwe](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dartwe/32/101648_2.png) [@dartwe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dartwe)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/26 "2016-06-20T23:48:00Z")
> [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > > > Jesus H Christ > > > > No one wants a game where all classes use BAs > > > > No one wants a game where the speed is slow as > > > > Well… no one with a brain anyway… > > I agree, and apparently so does DICE. I just leave these threads to give the illusion that the 15 people who care could get their way. The overwhelming feedback is people like the speed and weapons. Good to hear, I also agree ---
**Author:** ![ThomgunZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thomgunz/32/103829_2.png) [@ThomgunZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThomgunZ)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/27 "2016-06-21T07:21:00Z")
**Thanks so much for all replies. I am happy that people have joined the discussion.** **Trying to sum up all the comments here.. .** First of all I respect that we got different opinion about what is fun. It’s just sad that people in here think that if you balance the weapons, that icl. the Rifles the game will be boring and slow. IMO the game will be even more intense that way. If you claim the title Battlefield 1 and make a kick- trailer which shows the WW1 theme. You kind of hype of a big amount of people, I’d say ESPECIALLY those who have a big interest in history. That should be taken in the consideration when creating the game. Because making fool out of a WW1 game, such examples I have previously stated. will kill this game within a year. ---
**Author:** ![B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/b3antown_b3a5t/32/101262_2.png) [@B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B3ANTOWN_B3A5T)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/28 "2016-06-21T07:22:00Z")
> [@ThomgunZ](#): > > **Thanks so much for all replies. I am happy that people have joined the discussion.** > **Trying to sum up all the comments here.. .** > > First of all I respect that we got different opinion about what is fun. It’s just sad that people in here think that if you balance the weapons, that icl. the Rifles the game will be boring and slow. > IMO the game will be even more intense that way. > > If you claim the title Battlefield 1 and make a kick- trailer which shows the WW1 theme. You kind of hype of a big amount of people, I’d say ESPECIALLY those who have a big interest in history. > That should be taken in the consideration when creating the game. Because making fool out of a WW1 game, such examples I have previously stated. will kill this game within a year. I think more people care about the game being fun and exciting than it being dead on accurate to WW1 ---
**Author:** ![GH0STHUNTE\_17uo](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gh0sthunte_17uo/32/102065_2.png) [@GH0STHUNTE\_17uo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GH0STHUNTE_17uo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/29 "2016-06-21T07:26:00Z")
> [@ThomgunZ](#): > > Introduction > I have been playing Battlefield since it first were launched. 1942 to Battlefield 4. As we all know, comparing old games with new can be done but you have to considering things like, technology advancement. > > The last Battlefield I truly enjoyed was Bad Company, The campaign for me was a mind blowing experience. It was really a FUN game. It was created to used have fun. > Battlefield 3 was the “serious Battlefield” and Battlefield 4 was an extension of Battlefield 3 were they just decided to add more of everything. > > I want to just mention before I carry on that I like Battlefield games. I have played them a lot. However I don’t like how they are developing their games nowadays. > If we look at Battlefield 4 there are 100 of weapons, I think it has 15 snipers, 25 assault weapons. like 8 scopes? > It is just TOO MUCH of everything. Especially since 90% of the guns feels the same, do the same dmg and the remaining 10% are the guns that people are using. Most likely because they are buffed. > Same goes with the maps, modes etc. 1/10 of everything in Battlefield 4 is only in use and it has divided the community. Not to mention how they decide to create sub-games like hardline, star wars. > > Battlefield 1 is the new Battlefield 4 > > After I have been watching the gameplay videos that are out there I can see how this game feels like a modern Battlefield. That is not something I don’t mind at all. > However when I look at the WW1 feeling to it. I get bad vibes. > For anyone who have or had hopes about this game will be a WW1 game… It won’t.. > > Transport vehicles are doing 100 mph. The speed has not been reduced at all. It’s a replica of the Battlefield 3-4 Jeep. Drives fast as hell and can jump on hills. > > Majority of the guns are machine guns. Well you can argue about “probably” all guns existed in WW1, as some point. What I can frustrated about is the fact that the MAIN gun for a infantary was the rifle. > The rifle in Battlefield 3-4 is a joke. I have really tried to master it and it is a challenge. > We need.. No really, WE NEED a solid rifle in this game or it will not make any sense at all. > > I am extremely worried about how this game will turn into a Battlefield 4, with all these guns that will be added, scopes, and the biggest issue with any Battlefield game. > A developer that don’t care about balance the maps or guns. They add a map and it will last forever. no fix at all. > I am not surprised if we will see all the old Battlefield 3 maps in this game at some point. like metro… > > Please just stick to a few guns, maps, features and make them great. The only reason why a DICE don’t do this is so they can create a game year after year after year and give us bad hopes. > Look at 1942, it is modify and it still lives today. At some point it was even bigger than BF4. That just say something… Ok ok ok… hold up a sec. This is pre alpha footage we are talking about? Right. I mean its not like they can change anything untill the game come out. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/30 "2016-06-21T07:27:00Z")
> [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > > [@ThomgunZ](#): > > > > **Thanks so much for all replies. I am happy that people have joined the discussion.** > > **Trying to sum up all the comments here.. .** > > > > First of all I respect that we got different opinion about what is fun. It’s just sad that people in here think that if you balance the weapons, that icl. the Rifles the game will be boring and slow. > > IMO the game will be even more intense that way. > > > > If you claim the title Battlefield 1 and make a kick- trailer which shows the WW1 theme. You kind of hype of a big amount of people, I’d say ESPECIALLY those who have a big interest in history. > > That should be taken in the consideration when creating the game. Because making fool out of a WW1 game, such examples I have previously stated. will kill this game within a year. > > I think more people care about the game being fun and exciting than it being dead on accurate to WW1 B-B-B-B-B-BINGOOOOO ---
**Author:** ![GH0STHUNTE\_17uo](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gh0sthunte_17uo/32/102065_2.png) [@GH0STHUNTE\_17uo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GH0STHUNTE_17uo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/31 "2016-06-21T07:29:00Z")
Also no game is historically accurate. Even if it is. The players wont play strategically like wars are fought. ---
**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/32 "2016-06-21T08:42:00Z")
**THE SOLUTION** Make different game modes such as Normal, Classic and Hardcore. Each community will be able to change and add what they deem necessary. Adds to the game. People can find what suits them best. No need to take each other out. We all are Battlefielders. Battlefield FOR THE WIN! ---
**Author:** ![A\_warped\_mind](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/a_warped_mind/32/101124_2.png) [@A\_warped\_mind](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/A_warped_mind)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/33 "2016-06-21T10:25:00Z")
I mean god forbid a games company makes a game that caters to the entire gaming spectrum, so every one gets a shot at having Fun in a game with a large diverse playerbase and community. God forbid a games company wants to make as much profit as they can by making their product accessible to everyone. OPTIONS they cater to everyone it’s what makes things fun and interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/34 "2016-06-21T10:40:00Z")
> [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > > [@ThomgunZ](#): > > > > **Thanks so much for all replies. I am happy that people have joined the discussion.** > > **Trying to sum up all the comments here.. .** > > > > First of all I respect that we got different opinion about what is fun. It’s just sad that people in here think that if you balance the weapons, that icl. the Rifles the game will be boring and slow. > > IMO the game will be even more intense that way. > > > > If you claim the title Battlefield 1 and make a kick- trailer which shows the WW1 theme. You kind of hype of a big amount of people, I’d say ESPECIALLY those who have a big interest in history. > > That should be taken in the consideration when creating the game. Because making fool out of a WW1 game, such examples I have previously stated. will kill this game within a year. > > I think more people care about the game being fun and exciting than it being dead on accurate to WW1 My ears are burning. That means I think someone is talking about me (for those who don’t understand that idiom). ---
**Author:** ![BrowneManStrikes](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@BrowneManStrikes](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BrowneManStrikes)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/35 "2016-06-21T10:46:00Z")
> [@A\_warped\_mind](#): > > I mean god forbid a games company makes a game that caters to the entire gaming spectrum, so every one gets a shot at having Fun in a game with a large diverse playerbase and community. > > God forbid a games company wants to make as much profit as they can by making their product accessible to everyone. > > OPTIONS they cater to everyone it’s what makes things fun and interesting. Those things are fine, but none reflect the quality of the product. I know it’s an age-old analogy, but; millions of people eat McDonalds every day, they reach the widest possible consumer base, their product is as accessible as it could possibly be, and almost everybody who consumes their food enjoys it to some degree. But McDonalds burgers are cheap trash, and they wouldn’t have achieved such widespread popularity if they weren’t. The same can be applied, more relevantly, to Call of Duty. It continues to be the best selling game franchise in history, played by millions, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a fundamentally shallow and empty experience; traits which were needed to reach such a wide userbase and release new products every year and maintain those users. So BF1 may well be accessible, and it may well bring fun to a massively diverse audience; but the product will be fundamentally worse for it. ---
**Author:** ![A\_warped\_mind](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/a_warped_mind/32/101124_2.png) [@A\_warped\_mind](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/A_warped_mind)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:54am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/36 "2016-06-21T10:54:00Z")
> [@BrowneManStrikes](#): > > So BF1 may well be accessible, and it may well bring fun to a massively diverse audience; but the product will be fundamentally worse for it. How do you know it will be fundamentally worse for it, (just because you think COD is a worse franchise that panders to a larger audience and it in your eyes fundamentally worse for it) doesn’t mean to say BF1 will be. PS: on a side note if it is fundamentally worse WHY? the heck does it outsell every game on the market virtually, WHY? does it have a thriving top tier Comp Scene that’s not far off of Counter Strike and 10 x better and above Battlefields comp scene So really What’s wrong with making a game that caters for all types of players from casual to hardcore to elite comp to one a day flyby players. Really WHATS the problem with that. ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/37 "2016-06-21T10:56:00Z")
> [@A\_warped\_mind](#): > > So really What’s wrong with making a game that caters for all types of players from casual to hardcore to elite comp to one a day flyby players. > > Really WHATS the problem with that. According to BF purists, the problem can be summed up in 2 words: Skill Gap Of course, I believe that games should have greater accessibility for gamers, not less. ---
**Author:** ![Silverme](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/silverme/32/103474_2.png) [@Silverme](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Silverme)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 11:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/38 "2016-06-21T11:38:00Z")
> [@A\_warped\_mind](#): > > > [@BrowneManStrikes](#): > > > > So BF1 may well be accessible, and it may well bring fun to a massively diverse audience; but the product will be fundamentally worse for it. > > How do you know it will be fundamentally worse for it, (just because you think COD is a worse franchise that panders to a larger audience and it in your eyes fundamentally worse for it) doesn’t mean to say BF1 will be. > > PS: on a side note if it is fundamentally worse WHY? the heck does it outsell every game on the market virtually, WHY? does it have a thriving top tier Comp Scene that’s not far off of Counter Strike and 10 x better and above Battlefields comp scene > > So really What’s wrong with making a game that caters for all types of players from casual to hardcore to elite comp to one a day flyby players. > > Really WHATS the problem with that. Nothings wrong with that. I just don’t want BF to be COD(if I did I would go play COD) While I’m shore that BF1 will be an improvement on BF4. That doesn’t mean I want it to be a re skin of BF4. Why use WW1 if you really want a modern shooter? That DOSE NOT mean that I want BF1 to be ‘dead on accurate’ (besides I could argue that the chaos of BF games could betray the fighting of WW1 better than that of modern times) but it would be nice if the game play felt similar to the WW1 skin And why is this such a polarizing issue? one side acts like the other wants a rife simulator where you can’t fire at more than 1 shot/min (unlike the British who fired 15 shots/min) and the other wants a scooped out shell of a game like Battlefront(that was DICEs attempted at a casual, fun, shooter right?) ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 11:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/39 "2016-06-21T11:44:00Z")
The problem with making a game that “caters for everybody” is that it’s almost impossible to please everybody. ---
**Author:** ![ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThoriumPower)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 11:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322/40 "2016-06-21T11:48:00Z")
> [@ThomgunZ](#): > > Introduction > I have been playing Battlefield since it first were launched. 1942 to Battlefield 4. As we all know, comparing old games with new can be done but you have to considering things like, technology advancement. > > The last Battlefield I truly enjoyed was Bad Company, The campaign for me was a mind blowing experience. It was really a FUN game. It was created to used have fun. > Battlefield 3 was the “serious Battlefield” and Battlefield 4 was an extension of Battlefield 3 were they just decided to add more of everything. > > I want to just mention before I carry on that I like Battlefield games. I have played them a lot. However I don’t like how they are developing their games nowadays. > If we look at Battlefield 4 there are 100 of weapons, I think it has 15 snipers, 25 assault weapons. like 8 scopes? > It is just TOO MUCH of everything. Especially since 90% of the guns feels the same, do the same dmg and the remaining 10% are the guns that people are using. Most likely because they are buffed. > Same goes with the maps, modes etc. 1/10 of everything in Battlefield 4 is only in use and it has divided the community. Not to mention how they decide to create sub-games like hardline, star wars. > > Battlefield 1 is the new Battlefield 4 > > After I have been watching the gameplay videos that are out there I can see how this game feels like a modern Battlefield. That is not something I don’t mind at all. > However when I look at the WW1 feeling to it. I get bad vibes. > For anyone who have or had hopes about this game will be a WW1 game… It won’t.. > > Transport vehicles are doing 100 mph. The speed has not been reduced at all. It’s a replica of the Battlefield 3-4 Jeep. Drives fast as hell and can jump on hills. > > Majority of the guns are machine guns. Well you can argue about “probably” all guns existed in WW1, as some point. What I can frustrated about is the fact that the MAIN gun for a infantary was the rifle. > The rifle in Battlefield 3-4 is a joke. I have really tried to master it and it is a challenge. > We need.. No really, WE NEED a solid rifle in this game or it will not make any sense at all. > > I am extremely worried about how this game will turn into a Battlefield 4, with all these guns that will be added, scopes, and the biggest issue with any Battlefield game. > A developer that don’t care about balance the maps or guns. They add a map and it will last forever. no fix at all. > I am not surprised if we will see all the old Battlefield 3 maps in this game at some point. like metro… > > Please just stick to a few guns, maps, features and make them great. The only reason why a DICE don’t do this is so they can create a game year after year after year and give us bad hopes. > Look at 1942, it is modify and it still lives today. At some point it was even bigger than BF4. That just say something… What about hardline…absolutely a brilliant battlefield game… you missed out. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322.md?page=1) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-1-the-new-bf4/102322.md?page=3)