# Battlefield 5 anti-cheat **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698 "2018-06-10T15:35:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![0ld\_yell0w](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/0ld_yell0w/32/104784_2.png) [@0ld\_yell0w](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/0ld_yell0w)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/101 "2018-07-30T16:10:00Z")
> [@MachoFantast1c0](#): > > > [@Photonic-Prophet](#): > > > > I say name and shame for the power of community and peer pressure. If you get known to be a suspicious player, I say let the whole damn world know. Whats that going to hurt? Ya ya, hackusation central on bf forums. Supose those might be rooted in some truth though. > > I have nothing against publishing a registry of FairFight banned/suspended accounts (with full gamertag history), but to suggest holding witch hunts based on arbitrary feelings and motivations is asinine. Nowadays I get hackusated pretty much daily, and I’m nowhere near top tier players. I’d hate to have my reputation ruined by uneducated players coming together in a mob mentality. > > I play a lot, and I think I’m somewhat recognized by other habitual gamers playing same game modes in the EU region. It would be demoralizing to think my hard earned skills (whatever I might have) being devalued and questioned based on nothing substantial. And not only have I been suspected of cheating in-game, but also in these forums solely on my (level-headed I believe) writings in cheat related threads, which is a good indication of how grounded the guys with these tendencies are (you know who you are). > > As far as I know, none of the guys I’ve befriended over the games life cycle have doubts about my legitimacy (especially considering my non-exceptional statistics). And in reverse, a lot of the guys I play with also get hackusated regularly. This doesn’t bother me as I’ve done due diligence as best as I can and can be confident to a reasonable degree that they are also legit. The last thing I would want is to be associated with cheaters. I would imagine a lot of them share these sentiments. > > For the most part FairFight and integrated engine-internal checks are doing a decent job, but in the last few weeks there has been a resurgence of low/mid level cheaters mostly closet aimbotting. I would guess that there is a new public cheat out there yet undetected. Hopefully a ban wave is coming shortly. I recon you are playing BF1 which I don’t (tried it and uninstalled it). Theres a lot of games already using Fairfight that posts lists of banned players in specific games like [https://ffbans.org/](https://ffbans.org/) amongst others. On known cheatsites the complaints are going on that FF is more agressive in BF1 and they get banned really quick, which must mean that FF does work at some point, and that the cheaters are still trying. (one of the complainers posts that he gots more than 2300 hours ingame bf3,bf4 and bf1 before he recieved a temp ban by FF). I agree on the witchhunting though, but making a list from FF or similar public wouldnt be a witchhunt, that would be the fact that that specific guy got busted. Im in no way inclined to think ANY of your friends is cheating but again, you never really know whos doing it because those not getting caught is playing it to the thin red line and never go beyond that. ---
**Author:** ![11KingJake11](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/11kingjake11/32/101094_2.png) [@11KingJake11](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/11KingJake11)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/102 "2019-02-17T01:17:00Z")
On bf1 the admins had to ban a guy every day almost. So stop being a white Knight and saying we dont need support on this subjected. ---
**Author:** ![vladimir22666](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/51bf81/32.png) [@vladimir22666](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/vladimir22666)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/103 "2019-02-23T18:25:00Z")
still no good anti-cheat since BF4 ---
**Author:** ![RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RRedux)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/104 "2019-03-02T21:01:00Z")
Still no anti-cheat for Bf5 (FF is, as we all know, a joke). Guess the game is already dying so EA don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![ThePokester](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepokester/32/107238_2.png) [@ThePokester](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePokester)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/105 "2019-09-02T11:57:00Z")
Cheaters still ruining the game. EA still doing nothing about it. Reporting seems like an exercise in futility. ---
**Author:** ![TheKrypticKalEl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@TheKrypticKalEl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheKrypticKalEl)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/106 "2019-11-14T16:51:00Z")
It quiet literally is an exercise in futility, I’ve reported people multiple times for nothing to happen. And apparently if we want something to happen we have to give up our play time and do their job for them by spectating and sending them the video. Pathetic, they deserve death along with the pansy cheaters. ---
**Author:** ![Travis\_Sub19](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@Travis\_Sub19](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Travis_Sub19)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2019, 4:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/107 "2019-12-30T04:53:00Z")
It’s the end of 2019 now. Still, the cheaters are wandering around Asian Server which is Ironically where I’m playing. It’s such a bad Experience for me, even in Battlefield 1 ---
**Author:** ![MHbluey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mhbluey/32/102799_2.png) [@MHbluey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MHbluey)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/108 "2018-07-08T14:12:00Z")
let’s assume that DICE is successful in making a competitive mode, like BFV Incursions or something, or the Royale mode gets really big. Do you think they will just continue with FF on its own? i don’t. Or if they did, any competitive mode would die off quick. look at other games, they have all added supplementary anti cheat measures, still get cheaters ofc but at least they are trying and communicating about it? ---
**Author:** ![SkilletBurn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/skilletburn/32/103508_2.png) [@SkilletBurn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SkilletBurn)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/109 "2018-07-08T14:13:00Z")
I’ve never had a problem with PB. It was effective because it could catch client side cheats which FF doesn’t do. The cheat shops and their customers always run a campaign on forums to discredit PB because it puts them at risk. ---
**Author:** ![warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/warslag/32/101053_2.png) [@warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/warslag)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/110 "2018-07-08T14:23:00Z")
> [@MHbluey](#): > > let’s assume that DICE is successful in making a competitive mode, like BFV Incursions or something, or the Royale mode gets really big. Do you think they will just continue with FF on its own? i don’t. Or if they did, any competitive mode would die off quick. look at other games, they have all added supplementary anti cheat measures, still get cheaters ofc but at least they are trying and communicating about it? I’ve never cheated so I don’t know anything about that and I don’t anything about programming so I have no idea about that either. But I’ve spent an enormous amount of time playing games and PB was the only effective anti-cheat I have ever known. If you know a game that had really effective anti-cheat then let us know. For example R6 Siege is having enormous problems with cheating and it uses BattleEye. > [@SkilletBurn](#): > > I’ve never had a problem with PB. It was effective because it could catch client side cheats which FF doesn’t do. The cheat shops and their customers always run a campaign on forums to discredit PB because it puts them at risk. Same here but PB was public relations disaster and FairFight isn’t. I would say PB is far better when it’s allowed to do it’s job but it draws constant negativity. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/111 "2018-07-08T14:36:00Z")
> [@Micas99](#): > > You were constantly shilling the same exact excuses for the lack of decent AC in BF1 Because it’s true. I have had a LOT less encounters with cheaters in bf1 than I have in any other BF title. > [@Micas99](#): > > up until the 130 some odd page thread got closed under the guise of “nothing to see here”. That was not the reason why it was closed at all, It was closed because : - nothing new was being added to the discussion - everything was being repeated over and over - people were using the thread to name and shame - people were using the thread to harass and belittle/abuse others ---
**Author:** ![0ld\_yell0w](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/0ld_yell0w/32/104784_2.png) [@0ld\_yell0w](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/0ld_yell0w)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/112 "2018-07-08T15:15:00Z")
@warslag Oh, Macros itself isnt illegal to use, its all about how you make them work, some mice uses macros to utilize the extra buttons (I recently saw one with 20 buttons!!!) [https://gizmodo.com/5918345/this-20-button-mouse-puts-your-everything-to-shame](https://gizmodo.com/5918345/this-20-button-mouse-puts-your-everything-to-shame) Again, we are back to gaining an unfair advantage, its not unfair to code button 14 on your mouse to drop ammo and if youre french, button 2 to wave the white flag 😉 @LOLGotYerTags Well I never understood how DICE devs can have their noses in the sky while they have their head up their [profanity]. No one is asking them to tell us how and when, but to communicate and perhaps even cooperate with the community, instead the “closes holes by patching” so we as serverholders cant run the plugins we would like to on servers we pay to rent. A lot of things could have been set straight on different subjects regarding to anticheat if there had been a communication between the community, 3. party AC and DICE. In these latest cases I wont blame any of the existing 3.party AC’s - they have been forthcoming telling about different issues and problems. It would be nice to see DICE doing the same. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/113 "2018-07-08T15:19:00Z")
@0ld_yell0w You know swearing isnt allowed. Ive edited your post to reflect this on this occasion however further rulebreaking will of course push you into infraction territory. ---
**Author:** ![Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pelliy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/114 "2018-07-08T16:38:00Z")
LOLGotYerTags wrote: [»](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/111) > [@Micas99](#): > > You were constantly shilling the same exact excuses for the lack of decent AC in BF1 Because it’s true. I have had a LOT less encounters with cheaters in bf1 than I have in any other BF title. > [@Micas99](#): > > up until the 130 some odd page thread got closed under the guise of “nothing to see here”. That was not the reason why it was closed at all, It was closed because : - nothing new was being added to the discussion - everything was being repeated over and over - people were using the thread to name and shame - people were using the thread to harass and belittle/abuse others ---
**Author:** ![Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pelliy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/115 "2018-07-08T17:15:00Z")
> [@Farsight\_02](#): > > > [@0ld\_yell0w](#): > > > > @warslag No, sometimes a program/driver which is NOT coded with cheat in mind alters an adress that PB is monitoring. I specifically can remember a microsoft mouse driver doing that which ended in a massive banwave - which got lifted again. > > > > MS, Nvidia etc.. doesnt care about EA’s EULA when they make a driver or a program, they make it because they can sell/upgrade something we bought as customers, it is solely EA/PB/FF 's responsibility to figure out if its a legit program or not you are running not another software Inc’s concern. Imagine EA telling MS to alter windows 10 because some of their customers cant play BF5 ?! nahhh - not really 😉 > > > > No again, wether youre disabled or just a sick cheater you KNOW what you can or cannot, the game EULA states that you are not to use anything that gives you an unfair advantage thats it ! It is THAT simple. > > > > I dont believe FF works, Ive manually had to ban a load of players with obvious cheats, like shooting players in MBT with a handgun from other end of map, shooting/killing with binocular at any range, flying or teleporting around ?! these examples is not to discuss “get better yourself” these are VERY obvious and never caught by a stats engine like FF so no, doesnt work because lots of these players Ive been following and they are still not banned by FF. > > FF has definitely gotten better, but as long as I see this one particular blatant aimbotter that I reported 1,5 years ago still playing as of today I’ll keep saying that FF is a joke. > > Just now, I also read on a cheat forum that cheaters are **still** able to transfer their games from a banned account to a new account to circumvent their ban and keep cheating without having to pay for a new game. This was brought to EA’s attention years ago and they said that took action… > Well they didn’t, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised about that. > [@Farsight\_02](#): > > > [@0ld\_yell0w](#): > > > > @warslag No, sometimes a program/driver which is NOT coded with cheat in mind alters an adress that PB is monitoring. I specifically can remember a microsoft mouse driver doing that which ended in a massive banwave - which got lifted again. > > > > MS, Nvidia etc.. doesnt care about EA’s EULA when they make a driver or a program, they make it because they can sell/upgrade something we bought as customers, it is solely EA/PB/FF 's responsibility to figure out if its a legit program or not you are running not another software Inc’s concern. Imagine EA telling MS to alter windows 10 because some of their customers cant play BF5 ?! nahhh - not really 😉 > > > > No again, wether youre disabled or just a sick cheater you KNOW what you can or cannot, the game EULA states that you are not to use anything that gives you an unfair advantage thats it ! It is THAT simple. > > > > I dont believe FF works, Ive manually had to ban a load of players with obvious cheats, like shooting players in MBT with a handgun from other end of map, shooting/killing with binocular at any range, flying or teleporting around ?! these examples is not to discuss “get better yourself” these are VERY obvious and never caught by a stats engine like FF so no, doesnt work because lots of these players Ive been following and they are still not banned by FF. > > FF has definitely gotten better, but as long as I see this one particular blatant aimbotter that I reported 1,5 years ago still playing as of today I’ll keep saying that FF is a joke. > > Just now, I also read on a cheat forum that cheaters are **still** able to transfer their games from a banned account to a new account to circumvent their ban and keep cheating without having to pay for a new game. This was brought to EA’s attention years ago and they said that took action… > Well they didn’t, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised about that. This argument sounds similiar to antivaxxing arguments. Show 100s of cases where X works. Shows 1 case of x not working, therefore Y is ineffective. This is not really a good argument. Onto to your second claim. Its tied to the account. you cannot transfer into a new account. You can merge accounts but you cannot transfer accounts. [https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Can-we-transfer-games-from-one-Origin-account-to-another/td-p/1920505](https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Can-we-transfer-games-from-one-Origin-account-to-another/td-p/1920505) ---
**Author:** ![0ld\_yell0w](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/0ld_yell0w/32/104784_2.png) [@0ld\_yell0w](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/0ld_yell0w)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/116 "2018-07-08T18:41:00Z")
sorry to burst that bubble, it IS possible to transfer a game from one to another. For obvious reasons I wont share how here in public. I wasnt asking DICE to “spill it all out” but to be more cooperative & communicative towards both players as well as 3. party AC. That doesnt include their deepest secrets about AC.They could tell us about server settings coming up - and or if tvey got a new AC coming up, that wouldnt give the cheaters much to go on but would be an refreshing newsbulletin towards the community as a whole. ---
**Author:** ![Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pelliy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/117 "2018-07-08T18:51:00Z")
> [@0ld\_yell0w](#): > > sorry to burst that bubble, it IS possible to transfer a game from one to another. For obvious reasons I wont share how here in public. I wasnt asking DICE to “spill it all out” but to be more cooperative & communicative towards both players as well as 3. party AC. That doesnt include their deepest secrets about AC.They could tell us about server settings coming up - and or if tvey got a new AC coming up, that wouldnt give the cheaters much to go on but would be an refreshing newsbulletin towards the community as a whole. I went around looking for that claim. Couldn’t find it. But I understand why you wouldn’t want to post it here since it violates TOS. For people that think FF is bad, I would like dice just to turn it off for one day and see how its like. It will be worse than BF3/4. I 'm sure of that. I don’t think anything needs to be communicated to us about cheat measures. The ones who do communicate such things, tend to have a cheat problem. PUBG, R6, etc because they see the numbers and how it reflects. Could they be more open about measures? Sure. Are they going to? No. Do they need to? No. There’s not a cheating epidemic in Battlefield 1. There are cheaters, and in some waves, more cheaters than not, but there’s no cheating epidemic to the point EA needs to come out and make a statement about cheating. I was in a lobby with someone that was cheating. I left quietly, went to spectate him and saw he had an aimbot. He knew I was spectating because he went prone and seemed like he was finagling with some settings aka toggling off. An hr later, he got banned. ---
**Author:** ![BetaFief](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/betafief/32/101322_2.png) [@BetaFief](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BetaFief)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/118 "2018-07-08T19:14:00Z")
I find it quite amusing that apparently DICE is using anticheat based on/around statistics because it explains a whole heck of a lot with regards to the general attitude and direction these games have gone. They’ve attempted to automate it, to make a system where you do not need to have/do not need as many people auditing claims, cases, or reports of people cheating, rather something that is more automated. This attempt at “automation” via statistics has also been used (or theorized being used) when Balancing Weapons/Gadgets. (this theory/method Explains some of the odd balance-issues found with various BF4 weapons, and the choice to limit configurations of guns in BF1, or at least the deeper reasoning behind it). This Reliance (some might say over-reliance) on statistics might very well explain the increasingly limited/restrictive server-options starting with either BF:BC:2 or BF:3 (depending on how one counts BC2) better than almost any other explanation. To me though the ---
**Author:** ![Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pelliy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/119 "2018-07-08T19:16:00Z")
> [@BetaFief](#): > > I find it quite amusing that apparently DICE is using anticheat based on/around statistics because it explains a whole heck of a lot with regards to the general attitude and direction these games have gone. > > They’ve attempted to automate it, to make a system where you do not need to have/do not need as many people auditing claims, cases, or reports of people cheating, rather something that is more automated. > > This attempt at “automation” via statistics has also been used (or theorized being used) when Balancing Weapons/Gadgets. (this theory/method Explains some of the odd balance-issues found with various BF4 weapons, and the choice to limit configurations of guns in BF1, or at least the deeper reasoning behind it). > > This Reliance (some might say over-reliance) on statistics might very well explain the increasingly limited/restrictive server-options starting with either BF:BC:2 or BF:3 (depending on how one counts BC2) better than almost any other explanation. To me though the That’s what DICE allows you to believe about FF just being statistical Anti-cheat. Its much more than that. ---
**Author:** ![MHbluey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mhbluey/32/102799_2.png) [@MHbluey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MHbluey)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698/120 "2018-07-08T19:22:00Z")
> [@lllPeligrolll](#): > > > [@0ld\_yell0w](#): > > > > sorry to burst that bubble, it IS possible to transfer a game from one to another. For obvious reasons I wont share how here in public. I wasnt asking DICE to “spill it all out” but to be more cooperative & communicative towards both players as well as 3. party AC. That doesnt include their deepest secrets about AC.They could tell us about server settings coming up - and or if tvey got a new AC coming up, that wouldnt give the cheaters much to go on but would be an refreshing newsbulletin towards the community as a whole. > > There’s not a cheating epidemic in Battlefield 1. There are cheaters, and in some waves, more cheaters than not, but there’s no cheating epidemic to the point EA needs to come out and make a statement about cheating. > > . disagree, BF1 in early 2017 was infested with them, I could post stuff about it but will just get sanctioned, I stopped playing until recently - they’ve all moved on to other games- they’ll be back for BFV launch, no doubt [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698.md?page=5) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-5-anti-cheat/105698.md?page=7)