# Battlefield = Money$$$ **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 20, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336 "2016-06-20T20:41:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/21 "2016-06-20T23:05:00Z")
> [@A\_warped\_mind](#): > > > [@MartinBabl](#): > > > > I do have that small hope that people will realize that what made the Original Battlefields so great was not all this graphics and destruction and all these unlockable weapons and gadgets but just good teamwork, well designed map layout and a decent yet difficult to master game play. > > And what’s to say BF1 wont have teamwork and well designed maps. > > You have only seen one map with one game mode on a showcase from EA for all to see what BF1 might be about. > > they have said that it was PRE-Alpha and all of what you have seen is subject to change (and we all know things do change) > > Bad Company 2 Rush had the best teamwork in any Battlefield I have ever seen and like iv’e said I have played them all on PC and console. > > And just a little heads up for you it’s not just the game/maps that create teamwork (it’s the players and people you play with that actually makes teamwork (WORK) Teamwork: - I did not say that it is not in the game. I said: “it is not a priority:” - The word teamwork does not come up once on the front page of the Battlefield One home page. - Did any of the DICE developers team say, “We are focusing on making Battlefield a teamwork orientated game” - It is not a selling point of this game. - I never said that good maps = teamwork. I said “Teamwork + difficult to master game play + good maps = Great Game” - Have they talked about how they designed their maps? All I have heard is destruction, destruction and more destruction. ---
**Author:** ![Threedog0972](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@Threedog0972](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Threedog0972)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/22 "2016-06-20T23:09:00Z")
And the neck beards come out…If you want to play BF2 go play that or PR…Things change, BC2 was fun. I liked head to head combat TBH. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/23 "2016-06-20T23:10:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > It all startes with bad company ,the game that called itself bf but was actually an experiment to make bf available to console noobs and try to steal cods fanbase > > > > Considering the franchise has been following the BC2 direction ever since the game was a huge success, and they still haven’t “stolen CoD’s fanbase” - I highly doubt that was their reasoning for changing up the franchise. Especially considering that they’ve kept said changes even though they, again, haven’t “stolen CoD’s fanbase”. > > That was their reasoning all right.Many changes have been made to make the game more similar to cod or casualize it.And yes they have stolen a huge part.Many people here are noobs that started with bc2 ,and were playing cod before that.You have to be blind to not see that,what do you expect,for cod to go bankrupt and have 0 players? Not gonna happen As someone who actively plays CoD and Battlefield, and has 600+ hours logged in BF4 and is Prestige Master 220 in Black Ops 3 - Battlefield to this day has very few key mechanics that are similar to CoD, apart from it being a first person shooter. They attract two different types of crowds, and the games play nothing alike. When BC2 was released, the most recent CoD was Black Ops - and those two games, again, were nothing alike. The only reason BC2 garnered so many players was because not only was it one of Battlefield’s first attempts to reach the mass console market - but it was also a good Battlefield game. Just because it introduced many new players to the Battlefield franchise does not mean it was going directly after Call of Duty. At that point, Battlefield wasn’t even a top AAA game at that point, and CoD’s main competitors were Gears of War and Halo. ---
**Author:** ![A\_warped\_mind](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/a_warped_mind/32/101124_2.png) [@A\_warped\_mind](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/A_warped_mind)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/24 "2016-06-20T23:10:00Z")
If people think Battlefield is like COD then I suggest people need to see an optician. Let me see COD year 21,000 + AD Jump suits Robots Auto rifles/laser rifles Space ships Other planets Auto shields Auto grenades that seek their enemy Zero gravity Search and Destroy Battlefield 1914 to 1918 AD tanks Armoured cars Zeppelins Biplanes Bolt action rifles SMG’s Semi auto rifles Bayonets Conquest Rush Yep very similar almost identical in their application and style ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/25 "2016-06-20T23:14:00Z")
Some people just aren’t fans of change. In which case, they should find something that closer fits their criteria for what is “fun” and “enjoyable”. ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/26 "2016-06-20T23:18:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > > > It all startes with bad company ,the game that called itself bf but was actually an experiment to make bf available to console noobs and try to steal cods fanbase > > > > > > Considering the franchise has been following the BC2 direction ever since the game was a huge success, and they still haven’t “stolen CoD’s fanbase” - I highly doubt that was their reasoning for changing up the franchise. Especially considering that they’ve kept said changes even though they, again, haven’t “stolen CoD’s fanbase”. > > > > That was their reasoning all right.Many changes have been made to make the game more similar to cod or casualize it.And yes they have stolen a huge part.Many people here are noobs that started with bc2 ,and were playing cod before that.You have to be blind to not see that,what do you expect,for cod to go bankrupt and have 0 players? Not gonna happen > > As someone who actively plays CoD and Battlefield, and has 600+ hours logged in BF4 and is Prestige Master 220 in Black Ops 3 - Battlefield to this day has very few key mechanics that are similar to CoD, apart from it being a first person shooter. > > They attract two different types of crowds, and the games play nothing alike. When BC2 was released, the most recent CoD was Black Ops - and those two games, again, were nothing alike. The only reason BC2 garnered so many players was because not only was it one of Battlefield’s first attempts to reach the mass console market - but it was also a good Battlefield game. > > Just because it introduced many new players to the Battlefield franchise does not mean it was going directly after Call of Duty. At that point, Battlefield wasn’t even a top AAA game at that point, and CoD’s main competitors were Gears of War and Halo. They made maps smaller. Removed spread. Released it to consoles. Increased game pace. Created the first single player campaign. Introduced perks. Introduced camos. Introduced 1000 attachments. Dubstep. Lowered skill floor to zero. Mininap spotting with moving icon. Battlelog for first time to rival cods preimium whatevercrap And more.Some changed introduced with bc2 some with bf3 Any who says bf did not switch target audience to cod playerbase on consoles is lying to himself The mere fact that you are a cod player on console and are now playing bf should prove that to you by itself ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/27 "2016-06-20T23:29:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > > > > > It all startes with bad company ,the game that called itself bf but was actually an experiment to make bf available to console noobs and try to steal cods fanbase > > > > > > > > Considering the franchise has been following the BC2 direction ever since the game was a huge success, and they still haven’t “stolen CoD’s fanbase” - I highly doubt that was their reasoning for changing up the franchise. Especially considering that they’ve kept said changes even though they, again, haven’t “stolen CoD’s fanbase”. > > > > > > That was their reasoning all right.Many changes have been made to make the game more similar to cod or casualize it.And yes they have stolen a huge part.Many people here are noobs that started with bc2 ,and were playing cod before that.You have to be blind to not see that,what do you expect,for cod to go bankrupt and have 0 players? Not gonna happen > > > > As someone who actively plays CoD and Battlefield, and has 600+ hours logged in BF4 and is Prestige Master 220 in Black Ops 3 - Battlefield to this day has very few key mechanics that are similar to CoD, apart from it being a first person shooter. > > > > They attract two different types of crowds, and the games play nothing alike. When BC2 was released, the most recent CoD was Black Ops - and those two games, again, were nothing alike. The only reason BC2 garnered so many players was because not only was it one of Battlefield’s first attempts to reach the mass console market - but it was also a good Battlefield game. > > > > Just because it introduced many new players to the Battlefield franchise does not mean it was going directly after Call of Duty. At that point, Battlefield wasn’t even a top AAA game at that point, and CoD’s main competitors were Gears of War and Halo. > > They made maps smaller. > Removed spread. > Released it to consoles. > Increased game pace. > Created the first single player campaign. > Introduced perks. > Introduced camos. > Introduced 1000 attachments. > Dubstep. > Lowered skill floor to zero. > Mininap spotting with moving icon. > Battlelog for first time to rival cods preimium whatevercrap > > And more.Some changed introduced with bc2 some with bf3 > > Any who says bf did not switch target audience to cod playerbase on consoles is lying to himself > > The mere fact that you are a cod player on console and are now playing bf should prove that to you by itself And that makes Battlefield similar to CoD how? CoD maps are much smaller, literally like 10x smaller than BF maps. Even the biggest of CoD maps are less than a quarter of any BF map, even Metro or Locker. CoD has a ton of spread, have you never used SMGs in those games at all? Releasing to consoles? What does that have to do with CoD? CoD has always been on consoles. The first CoD was even on the N-Gage handheld, which sucked. BF’s pace is still nowhere near as fast as CoD’s. BF2MC had a single-player campaign. The “perks” in BF don’t even remotely resemble those of CoD, and neither do the camos. Believe it or not, CoD doesn’t have that many "attachments’. They have maybe 10 in total, for ALL guns. Dubstep? What? What are you even talking about. Lowered Skill Floor to zero? Tell that to the people that play this game and suck something fierce at it. Oh NO, not minimaps with enemy icons! I guess Battlefield is copying Halo as well! Watch out 343, BF’s coming after your fanbase! Lastly, what does Battlelog have to do with CoD’s Premium? CoD has never had anything remotely similar to BL. Call of Duty and Battlefield are barely similar, in any way, apart from both being first-person shooters. They’re two entirely different games with gameplay that barely resembles each other. If you’re trying to convince anyone that BF is even remotely similar to CoD, you’re just making yourself look stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/28 "2016-06-20T23:30:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > The mere fact that you are a cod player on console and are now playing bf should prove that to you by itself And I’m not a “cod player on console” - I’ve been playing BF since 2002, before Call of Duty even existed. The mere fact that you think I’m primarily a “cod player” just because I play the game proves that you’re acting dumb. I play Halo as well, does that mean I’m a stupid Halo player that’s invading the BF franchise? ---
**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/29 "2016-06-20T23:30:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > Some people just aren’t fans of change. In which case, they should find something that closer fits their criteria for what is “fun” and “enjoyable”. - Like shooting at large floating red disks - Auto heal - Auto repair - Low amount of teamwork - Some insane human endurance ---
**Author:** ![B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/b3antown_b3a5t/32/101262_2.png) [@B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B3ANTOWN_B3A5T)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/30 "2016-06-20T23:31:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > The mere fact that you are a cod player on console and are now playing bf should prove that to you by itself > > And I’m not a “cod player on console” - I’ve been playing BF since 2002, before Call of Duty even existed. > > The mere fact that you think I’m primarily a “cod player” just because I play the game proves that you’re acting dumb. > > I play Halo as well, does that mean I’m a stupid Halo player that’s invading the BF franchise? Yes ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/31 "2016-06-20T23:41:00Z")
MartinBabl wrote: [»](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/29) > [@Loqtrall](#): > > Some people just aren’t fans of change. In which case, they should find something that closer fits their criteria for what is “fun” and “enjoyable”. - Like shooting at large floating red disks - Auto heal - Auto repair - Low amount of teamwork - Some insane human endurance ---
**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/32 "2016-06-20T23:46:00Z")
> [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > The mere fact that you are a cod player on console and are now playing bf should prove that to you by itself > > > > And I’m not a “cod player on console” - I’ve been playing BF since 2002, before Call of Duty even existed. > > > > The mere fact that you think I’m primarily a “cod player” just because I play the game proves that you’re acting dumb. > > > > I play Halo as well, does that mean I’m a stupid Halo player that’s invading the BF franchise? > > Yes So well phrased and direct. Perfectly timed and executed. Excellent my dear sir. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/33 "2016-06-20T23:49:00Z")
> [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > The mere fact that you are a cod player on console and are now playing bf should prove that to you by itself > > > > And I’m not a “cod player on console” - I’ve been playing BF since 2002, before Call of Duty even existed. > > > > The mere fact that you think I’m primarily a “cod player” just because I play the game proves that you’re acting dumb. > > > > I play Halo as well, does that mean I’m a stupid Halo player that’s invading the BF franchise? > > Yes > [@MartinBabl](#): > > > [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > > > The mere fact that you are a cod player on console and are now playing bf should prove that to you by itself > > > > > > And I’m not a “cod player on console” - I’ve been playing BF since 2002, before Call of Duty even existed. > > > > > > The mere fact that you think I’m primarily a “cod player” just because I play the game proves that you’re acting dumb. > > > > > > I play Halo as well, does that mean I’m a stupid Halo player that’s invading the BF franchise? > > > > Yes > > So well phrased and direct. Perfectly timed and executed. Excellent my dear sir. ![OmUZQ6i.gif](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/6/4/64315bfd630c23986021bb1f2e81d648c000ca30.png) ---
**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/34 "2016-06-21T00:01:00Z")
MartinBabl wrote: [»](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/29) > [@Loqtrall](#): > > Some people just aren’t fans of change. In which case, they should find something that closer fits their criteria for what is “fun” and “enjoyable”. - Like shooting at large floating red disks - Auto heal - Auto repair - Low amount of teamwork - Some insane human endurance ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/35 "2016-06-21T00:02:00Z")
I’m a casual gamer that approves of DICE/EA’s message (regarding where it’s taking the BF franchise). On a serious note though, I’m looking forward to playing BF1 when it’s released. From what I’ve seen, it looks like a fun game that will cater to many, including the mass market of gamers. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/36 "2016-06-21T00:06:00Z")
MartinBabl wrote: [»](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/29) > [@Loqtrall](#): > > Some people just aren’t fans of change. In which case, they should find something that closer fits their criteria for what is “fun” and “enjoyable”. - Like shooting at large floating red disks - Auto heal - Auto repair - Low amount of teamwork - Some insane human endurance ---
**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/37 "2016-06-21T00:25:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > I’m a casual gamer that approves of DICE/EA’s message (regarding where it’s taking the BF franchise). > On a serious note though, I’m looking forward to playing BF1 when it’s released. From what I’ve seen, it looks like a fun game that will cater to many, including the mass market of gamers. Did you buy Battlefront? ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/38 "2016-06-21T00:30:00Z")
> [@MartinBabl](#): > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > I’m a casual gamer that approves of DICE/EA’s message (regarding where it’s taking the BF franchise). > > On a serious note though, I’m looking forward to playing BF1 when it’s released. From what I’ve seen, it looks like a fun game that will cater to many, including the mass market of gamers. > > Did you buy Battlefront? Yes, I did buy SWBF. I also bought BFHL. And plan to buy BF1. I have a lot of fun playing SWBF and BFHL. The way that BF1 is looking, I think I’ll also have a lot of fun playing it as well. ---
**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/39 "2016-06-21T00:33:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > > [@MartinBabl](#): > > > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > > I’m a casual gamer that approves of DICE/EA’s message (regarding where it’s taking the BF franchise). > > > On a serious note though, I’m looking forward to playing BF1 when it’s released. From what I’ve seen, it looks like a fun game that will cater to many, including the mass market of gamers. > > > > Did you buy Battlefront? > > Yes, I did buy SWBF. > I also bought BFHL. And plan to buy BF1. > I have a lot of fun playing SWBF and BFHL. The way that BF1 is looking, I think I’ll also have a lot of fun playing it as well. How many people still play SWBF and BFHL? ---
**Author:** ![nh44z](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/dfb087/32.png) [@nh44z](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/nh44z)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlefield-money/102336/40 "2016-06-21T00:35:00Z")
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