# Battlelog Playercounts Fix, BBlog **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 22, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560 "2018-05-22T15:32:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![SF\_AhmadKiller](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sf_ahmadkiller/32/105709_2.png) [@SF\_AhmadKiller](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SF_AhmadKiller)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/81 "2019-08-24T03:14:00Z")
i know this is old but i still face the same problem, it says 60/64 but when i join iam alone in the server ---
**Author:** ![AIexius](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@AIexius](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AIexius)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/82 "2019-10-01T15:46:00Z")
Apparently - the problem is resolved 🙂 No more fake players. ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/8/0/80bfdbbba27c9f62b1a82acfcfb1fd2e2dfb083f.png) ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/0/e01d112cfa837f920e3db068e60b0315c6d8ec25.png) ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/7/0/70303d3fd6430b958d36c3c0d2277e61b68763e2.png) ---
**Author:** ![pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pinchylillobster/32/103128_2.png) [@pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pinchylillobster)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/83 "2019-10-03T00:16:00Z")
Not overly fond of it being fixed to be honest. Love it or hate it, the plugin helped populate a lot of servers. That’s a pretty huge deal for a dying game. ---
**Author:** ![aalwuerger](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aalwuerger/32/105479_2.png) [@aalwuerger](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/aalwuerger)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 10:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/84 "2019-10-03T10:23:00Z")
Since two days almost all servers are gone, what is going on? ---
**Author:** ![Frogtooth](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frogtooth/32/102009_2.png) [@Frogtooth](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Frogtooth)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/85 "2019-10-05T00:35:00Z")
They stopped servers from seeding on Oct 1. That has seriously impacted total player counts, and hugely cut down on the variety of servers available. Congrats, EA… you may finally succeed in killing off BF4 entirely. ---
**Author:** ![AIexius](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@AIexius](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AIexius)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/86 "2019-10-06T01:49:00Z")
What is the use of full servers - if they are filled with fake players? From this REAL online does not grow, rather falls. This is a fake players kill BF4 and not vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pinchylillobster/32/103128_2.png) [@pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pinchylillobster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/87 "2019-10-06T04:07:00Z")
> [@AIexius](#): > > What is the use of full servers - if they are filled with fake players?From this REAL online does not grow, rather falls.This is a fake players kill BF4 and not vice versa. Because the DICE default filters only show servers that have less than 10 free slots available, so only nearly full servers. That means servers that are at lets say 40/60 no longer show up in the browser, which makes it virtually impossible to seed a server without a very dedicated playerbase. Essentially, full servers stay full and empty servers stay empty. ---
**Author:** ![AIexius](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@AIexius](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AIexius)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/88 "2019-10-07T00:27:00Z")
> [@pinchylillobster](#): > > Because the DICE default filters only show servers that have less than 10 free slots available, so only nearly full servers. That means servers that are at lets say 40/60 no longer show up in the browser, which makes it virtually impossible to seed a server without a very dedicated playerbase. > > Essentially, full servers stay full and empty servers stay empty. Full servers become empty - night-morning, but this does not prevent them from becoming full again in the evening, and always has been. In September, I calculated the real number of players on European servers at 20:00 (GMT) on Thursday and compared with October 3 at 20:00 (GMT), the result - no significant changes. Obviously, most players are able to put two check marks on “None” and “10+”. Perhaps in the USA it is different, I do not know. Anyway - servers with fake players are returning again :(( Long live the deception..! ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/b/7/b776a491d81e7fc8459afa62dab4d6f0d4c515fc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pinchylillobster/32/103128_2.png) [@pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pinchylillobster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/89 "2019-10-07T21:54:00Z")
> [@AIexius](#): > > > [@pinchylillobster](#): > > > > Because the DICE default filters only show servers that have less than 10 free slots available, so only nearly full servers. That means servers that are at lets say 40/60 no longer show up in the browser, which makes it virtually impossible to seed a server without a very dedicated playerbase. > > > > Essentially, full servers stay full and empty servers stay empty. > > Full servers become empty - night-morning, but this does not prevent them from becoming full again in the evening, and always has been. > > In September, I calculated the real number of players on European servers at 20:00 (GMT) on Thursday and compared with October 3 at 20:00 (GMT), the result - no significant changes. > Obviously, most players are able to put two check marks on “None” and “10+”. > Perhaps in the USA it is different, I do not know. > > Anyway - servers with fake players are returning again :(( > Long live the deception..! Yes, full servers become empty between night-morning and then fill up. They fill up because they had always shown up on the default server browser settings by faking their player count to 63/64. So even a server that’s 33/64 players at least has visibility on the browser and has a greater shot of filling. Without the fake players that server would not normally even show up for the average player. And yes most players probably are fully capable of putting two check marks on “None” and “10+”, assuming they know that those two specific check marks are what is causing them to see half a dozen nearly full servers vs a few dozen servers that might be at 22/64, 36/64, 53/64, etc etc. But I’d wager that the majority of players simply log into battlelog/the UI, look at the server list and click on a server that they think looks good and join it without bothering to tinker with filter options. I fully welcome the fake player counts coming back. Since DICE’s attempt to break them, most of the servers I frequented are dead. People might hate the fake player counts, but they were definitely effective at filling servers up. ---
**Author:** ![aalwuerger](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aalwuerger/32/105479_2.png) [@aalwuerger](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/aalwuerger)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 9:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/90 "2019-10-08T09:40:00Z")
why are almost all servers gone??? ---
**Author:** ![aalwuerger](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aalwuerger/32/105479_2.png) [@aalwuerger](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/aalwuerger)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 9:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/91 "2019-10-08T09:44:00Z")
sorry I didnt saw the answer before. ok but what is happening now, is bf4 dying? ---
**Author:** ![therealroksteady](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/therealroksteady/32/105764_2.png) [@therealroksteady](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/therealroksteady)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/92 "2019-10-08T20:32:00Z")
> [@aalwuerger](#): > > sorry I didnt saw the answer before. ok but what is happening now, is bf4 dying? Which region are you concerned about? I’m looking at EU in the serverbrowser and it’s packed with enough action I wouldn’t even know what to choose … ---
**Author:** ![pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pinchylillobster/32/103128_2.png) [@pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pinchylillobster)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/93 "2019-10-08T22:24:00Z")
Looks like DICE finally tweaked their default filters after 6 years to include all servers with players, not just almost full ones. That should make the seed bots a little less mandatory these days. For comparison, this is what the server browser looked like with default settings just after breaking the seed bots at the start of the month: [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](https://imgur.com/a/fBaRxJW) And this is what it looks like now, after they tweaked the default filters: [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](https://imgur.com/a/y7uqbt9) Night and day difference. ---
**Author:** ![AIexius](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@AIexius](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AIexius)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/94 "2019-10-09T00:43:00Z")
**pinchylillobster,** \*\>\*\*They fill up because they had always shown up on the default server browser settings by faking their player count to 63/64. \*This is not so, on October 3 there were no fake players, and the servers filled up perfectly with players in the evening (just like in September). Your comparison (screenshots) does not make much sense - it does not show the total number of real players, only the number of servers with different filter settings. - Apparently your screenshots were taken at different times of the day (judging by the lack of “BEST” servers in the second screenshot). ---
**Author:** ![pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pinchylillobster/32/103128_2.png) [@pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pinchylillobster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/95 "2019-10-09T01:45:00Z")
> [@AIexius](#): > > **pinchylillobster,** > \*\>\*\*They fill up because they had always shown up on the default server browser settings by faking their player count to 63/64. > \*This is not so, on October 3 there were no fake players, and the servers filled up perfectly with players in the evening (just like in September). > > Your comparison (screenshots) does not make much sense - it does not show the total number of real players, only the number of servers with different filter settings. > > - Apparently your screenshots were taken at different times of the day (judging by the lack of “BEST” servers in the second screenshot). I’m not contesting that servers will fill up. With the recommended server slider and the “play now” button, as well as servers that have a large enough player base to seed the server, they will fill up. But not every server has the luxury of a dedicated player base that will seed a server until it’s full. My issue is that due to the default BF4 browser settings, you only ever see servers that are nearly full, and never the ones that only have a handful of players to seed the server This is proven by my first screenshot where only half a dozen servers were displayed in the US, and it’s been proven even further due to the fact that since this issue was brought up, DICE recognized the problem and has tweaked their default browser settings to include all servers that have at least 1 player. Which is all I really cared about. Seeder bots were good for always keeping your server visible. Now they’re visible even without the bots. Also, those screenshots were taken at ~6pm Central Time on Monday (default settings, no seed bots, pre setting change) and ~6pm Central Time Tuesday (default settings, no seed bots, post setting change). That’s what a brand new player in the US during prime time would see if they booted up BF4 for the first time and tried to find a server. I think we can all agree that the second screenshot with 30+ servers with players looks far more attractive than the first screenshot of 8 servers with players. ---
**Author:** ![AIexius](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@AIexius](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AIexius)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 7:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/96 "2019-10-09T07:22:00Z")
I agree with you, changes in the filter (by default) will benefit BF4. As well as the lack of fake players 🙂 Thanks DICE. ---
**Author:** ![therealroksteady](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/therealroksteady/32/105764_2.png) [@therealroksteady](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/therealroksteady)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 7:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/97 "2019-10-09T07:46:00Z")
Trying it out… try the new default filters and let me know how it feels? :). Updates 2019-11-08: - **BFH** : Server browser: Default filters updated; no slot filtering. Should more rarely show “No servers found” for those with default filters. - **BF4** : Server browser: Default filters updated; Now includes full servers and servers with 10+ slots. Will show a more truthful picture of how active BF4 actually is and will no longer hide the most popular servers. - **All games** : Server browser default page size changed from 30 to 60. Will more correctly include the matching servers in server browser results. ---
**Author:** ![Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marten2018)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 7:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/98 "2019-10-10T07:53:00Z")
Excuse me, Can you turn off the display of the join server button in Asia? Because of the current DDoS attack in Asia, it is too serious, We need to reduce the chance of being attacked. Can you help us? ---
**Author:** ![Frogtooth](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frogtooth/32/102009_2.png) [@Frogtooth](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Frogtooth)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/99 "2019-10-10T17:08:00Z")
That didn’t last long. Seeding is back in full swing, at least on some servers: [http://prntscr.com/phjk7t](http://prntscr.com/phjk7t) ---
**Author:** ![Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marten2018)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560/100 "2019-10-10T18:08:00Z")
Perhaps the [Join Server] button can only start the game to the server page of the game, in order to solve the attack problem between Asia and the United States. ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/9/e/9ea43493f69164799e26e19d37df0abc599388e0.jpeg) Perhaps this is a last resort solution. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560.md?page=4) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/battlelog-playercounts-fix-bblog/104560.md?page=6)