# BF1 Servers - Thread for discussion of server rentals and settings\* **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [September 6, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889 "2016-09-06T04:52:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![EvilM1dget](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@EvilM1dget](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EvilM1dget)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/241 "2016-09-14T13:58:00Z")
> [@Madturnip](#): > > I am finding no information on this, but I figured I would post here in the BETA forums so that the DEVS can see this. Normally we have had notice of price for servers, who was going to be the official hosts, etc. However, we have no notification and the current Battlefield 4 certified hosts have no information, or are not sharing, and this is making my stomach churn. I have a bad feeling that EA / DICE is following the Star Wars Battlefront model and not allowing any communities or gaming clans to purchase their own servers for rent. I am not arguing with anyone about playing on BADMIN servers or getting kicked because of BADMINS, but I am concerned that your game will fall flat on it’s face if you do not allow rental from the main source that built your franchise. THE GAMING COMMUNITIES… > > Can we get some official clarification on server rentals, PC specifically, and whether or not we will be able to rent them or not. This silence about the whole thing is quite troublesome. I can guarantee a mass exodus of the franchise should your new model not allow for server rentals. > > - Thanks in advance! If it hasnt been announced yet with so many people asking for it- 99% chance there is not rentable servers… If there were EA/Dice would be proud to tell you about it right? Looks like they are copying their swbf model. They already copy and pasted the UI so why not how they handle their servers as well? ---
**Author:** ![BC-DurtySonuva](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bc-durtysonuva/32/104806_2.png) [@BC-DurtySonuva](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BC-DurtySonuva)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/242 "2016-09-14T14:08:00Z")
> [@EvilM1dget](#): > > If it hasnt been announced yet with so many people asking for it- 99% chance there is not rentable servers… > > If there were EA/Dice would be proud to tell you about it right? > > Looks like they are copying their swbf model. They already copy and pasted the UI so why not how they handle their servers as well? We already know we will get server rentals, it’s to what extent that remains to be unanswered. ---
**Author:** ![DarkWolves21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/darkwolves21/32/101641_2.png) [@DarkWolves21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DarkWolves21)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/243 "2016-09-14T14:11:00Z")
> [@EvilM1dget](#): > > > [@Madturnip](#): > > > > I am finding no information on this, but I figured I would post here in the BETA forums so that the DEVS can see this. Normally we have had notice of price for servers, who was going to be the official hosts, etc. However, we have no notification and the current Battlefield 4 certified hosts have no information, or are not sharing, and this is making my stomach churn. I have a bad feeling that EA / DICE is following the Star Wars Battlefront model and not allowing any communities or gaming clans to purchase their own servers for rent. I am not arguing with anyone about playing on BADMIN servers or getting kicked because of BADMINS, but I am concerned that your game will fall flat on it’s face if you do not allow rental from the main source that built your franchise. THE GAMING COMMUNITIES… > > > > Can we get some official clarification on server rentals, PC specifically, and whether or not we will be able to rent them or not. This silence about the whole thing is quite troublesome. I can guarantee a mass exodus of the franchise should your new model not allow for server rentals. > > > > - Thanks in advance! > > If it hasnt been announced yet with so many people asking for it- 99% chance there is not rentable servers… > > If there were EA/Dice would be proud to tell you about it right? > > Looks like they are copying their swbf model. They already copy and pasted the UI so why not how they handle their servers as well? Speculations like this cause more worry.^ Also this is battlefield. We have had Rentable and Server hosting since bf1942. No battlefield to date has not had custom servers. Well maybe bfbc1 and two but I never player bfbc1 and I always quick matched rush on bfbc2 I doubt they would break from tradition Plus stuff like this makes EA Money. And we know EA likes money If anyone disagrees with the fact that EA likes money, you need to do more research Because they Loooove it And rentable servers make them allot of it. I also think admin powers should be reduced, So so not have kids taking moms credit card and banning anyone who kills them Funny thing, Stuff like that was Against the terms of service in BF2 But EA didn’t really care, ---
**Author:** ![Scratch-DoD](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@Scratch-DoD](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Scratch-DoD)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/244 "2016-09-14T14:24:00Z")
> [@DurtySonuva](#): > > Someone mentioned it briefly above, but do the console servers in BF4 have the ability to kick/ban? At about the 5:24 mark you will see the option to kick/ban on a console server [![Video: YouTube](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/1/2/12782cb61187b5ab1146ee6f125f9deadb83f73f.jpeg "YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp0DXUy3OHY) ---
**Author:** ![BC-DurtySonuva](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bc-durtysonuva/32/104806_2.png) [@BC-DurtySonuva](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BC-DurtySonuva)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/245 "2016-09-14T14:37:00Z")
> [@Scratch-DoD-](#): > > At about the 5:24 mark you will see the option to kick/ban on a console server Thanks! Ok, that honestly answers it for me then. If they already do it on consoles now, why in the world would we think they would stop allowing that on pc for us in BF1??? I wish I had known that 10 pages ago. ---
**Author:** ![DarkWolves21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/darkwolves21/32/101641_2.png) [@DarkWolves21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DarkWolves21)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/246 "2016-09-14T14:38:00Z")
> [@DurtySonuva](#): > > > [@Scratch-DoD-](#): > > > > At about the 5:24 mark you will see the option to kick/ban on a console server > > Thanks! Ok, that honestly answers it for me then. If they already do it on consoles now, why in the world would we think they would stop allowing that on pc for us in BF1??? I wish I had known that 10 pages ago. They won’t. It will always be on PC ---
**Author:** ![ElStryfe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@ElStryfe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElStryfe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/247 "2016-09-14T14:53:00Z")
Sure, it may be that way for consoles now, but this is a whole new beast we are talking about here. Things can drastically change and fast as we all know. ---
**Author:** ![DarkWolves21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/darkwolves21/32/101641_2.png) [@DarkWolves21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DarkWolves21)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/248 "2016-09-14T14:56:00Z")
> [@ElStryfe](#): > > Sure, it may be that way for consoles now, but this is a whole new beast we are talking about here. Things can drastically change and fast as we all know. It’s been 3 decades and they haven’t changed significantly yet. ---
**Author:** ![ElStryfe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@ElStryfe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElStryfe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/249 "2016-09-14T15:06:00Z")
> [@DarkWolves21](#): > > > [@ElStryfe](#): > > > > Sure, it may be that way for consoles now, but this is a whole new beast we are talking about here. Things can drastically change and fast as we all know. > > It’s been 3 decades and they haven’t changed significantly yet. We shall see. ---
**Author:** ![BC-DurtySonuva](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bc-durtysonuva/32/104806_2.png) [@BC-DurtySonuva](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BC-DurtySonuva)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/250 "2016-09-14T15:11:00Z")
> [@ElStryfe](#): > > Sure, it may be that way for consoles now, but this is a whole new beast we are talking about here. Things can drastically change and fast as we all know. New for us, not so new for consoles apparently. All they’re doing is bringing pc inline with consoles. I get it, I honestly do. It’s a sound business model, and if I were them I’d strongly consider it too. Sure, it sucks from our standpoint (pc players), but I’ve been about the beginning of the end ever since COD W@W was released. It was honestly only a matter of time… BF1 is still an epicly fun game, and if we can at least manage players like we have been, then I’m all for it. Edit: by no way am I condoning using the console model, I still think it sucks and I’d MUCH rather have what we’re used too… just to clarify my previous statement. Edit Edit: if for some uncanny reason we CANNOT manage players, then I retract all previous statements in this post 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Reverend-1313](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e47c2d/32.png) [@Reverend-1313](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Reverend-1313)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/251 "2016-09-14T15:31:00Z")
> [@TML8](#): > > Here is the fresh Westie video @gioiswn referred to. Positively surprised by the stance for most part, was expecting something more defensive of DICE/EA assuming the rumors were true. > Westie if you read this, sorry for doubting after seeing your tweet on making this video. 😃 > Good stuff and I mostly agree. > The only part I’m kind of against, although I understand the point if that were the DICE stance, is that people don’t realize servers might have other settings… i.e. they join a game and only then realize e.g. snipers are banned or some such. So that DICE were trying to unify the experience… I just feel since BF4 already for years has had servers people have grown accustomed to checking what settings etc. servers have. Read the rules, check settings, etc. Although of course there are always badmins, and servers that simply don’t state info. However punishing everyone who rents in the process feels like getting rid of a mosquito with a shotgun. > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0CnqY4x72c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0CnqY4x72c) > > Hope we do really get that server rental info soon. Love Westie but he’s kinda evolved into a mouthpiece for EA marketing so I dont really trust anything he says anymore. That being said the video was all speculation just like this thread, just in a much more professional manner. ---
**Author:** ![Miketilldeath](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/miketilldeath/32/104910_2.png) [@Miketilldeath](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Miketilldeath)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/252 "2016-09-14T15:33:00Z")
There is an old saying EA/Dice’s “the silence is deafening”…!!! ---
**Author:** ![ElStryfe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@ElStryfe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElStryfe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/253 "2016-09-14T15:48:00Z")
> [@DurtySonuva](#): > > > [@ElStryfe](#): > > > > Sure, it may be that way for consoles now, but this is a whole new beast we are talking about here. Things can drastically change and fast as we all know. > > New for us, not so new for consoles apparently. All they’re doing is bringing pc inline with consoles. I get it, I honestly do. It’s a sound business model, and if I were them I’d strongly consider it too. Sure, it sucks from our standpoint (pc players), but I’ve been about the beginning of the end ever since COD W@W was released. It was honestly only a matter of time… BF1 is still an epicly fun game, and if we can at least manage players like we have been, then I’m all for it. > > Edit: by no way am I condoning using the console model, I still think it sucks and I’d MUCH rather have what we’re used too… just to clarify my previous statement. > > Edit Edit: if for some uncanny reason we CANNOT manage players, then I retract all previous statements in this post 😛 I 100% agree from a business stand point. Maximize profit by hosting the servers on their hardware rented from Amazon, MS, etc. Don’t let the server providers get money to support their business and families. Those are guys that are going to suffer as well and probably force some of them to shutdown their business. I’m also fine with a rented server from EA as long as I can manage it to some degree like before. But if we can’t manage players/maps/ticket bleed etc. and they still want us to rent them. No thank you, find someone else to do it because I surely won’t. While we’re on this topic has anyone else noticed it takes 16 players to start a 64 player game? I had a screenshot of that somewhere and thought to myself it’s hard enough now with 4 players, let alone 16! ---
**Author:** ![Madturnip](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/madturnip/32/104900_2.png) [@Madturnip](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Madturnip)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/254 "2016-09-14T15:51:00Z")
> [@DarkWolves21](#): > > > [@ElStryfe](#): > > > > Sure, it may be that way for consoles now, but this is a whole new beast we are talking about here. Things can drastically change and fast as we all know. > > It’s been 3 decades and they haven’t changed significantly yet. Where do you get your info? There was no DICE making BF games 30 years ago. Also, to your comment: They have changed how people join and control the servers every release since BFBC2. - Bad Company 2 you had the ability to draw zones in ProCon for whatever reason you want. Been gone since BFBC2 - BF3 saw the initiation of the OFFICIAL server which made majority of quick matches got to official servers. - BF4 saw the continued use of the OFFICIAL server model on steroids locking out even more settings from server admins. I mean the above is very brief, but I could go on for hours in great detail on how server admins keep loosing their admin abilities year after year gradually. Almost as if they were trying to prepare everyone for the day when there would be no admin rights at all. ---
**Author:** ![RomeoZero1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/romeozero1/32/104941_2.png) [@RomeoZero1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RomeoZero1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/255 "2016-09-14T16:00:00Z")
> [@Captain\_AirWolf](#): > > > [@RomeoZero1](#): > > > > Guess what? DICE has been cheating every customer, including you, for the last 15+ years. You as a customer _**never had a guarantee]**_ that you’ll be able to play multiplayer online on ranked servers. The servers you and every other inconsiderate player have been enjoying for so many years were actually paid for by clans and/or individual players. If none of the players/clans had rented servers, you _never_ would have been able to do as you suggested \* Load game\>connect\> play\>quit game.Simple as that.\*. On the contrary, it has been anything but simple. DICE never ever provided official servers to play multiplay online for their customers. The only times they did was when testing game like in alpha or beta. > > Educate yourself and learn some facts before criticizing admins. Same admins who have been providing servers for everyone to enjoy and having to deal with people like you calling them all sorts of names without anything in return. If clans/individuals stopped renting servers today for bf3/4, let’s see how you play and enjoy your game _as advertised_. > > BTW, I do believe there’s good valid reasons on both sides. However, DICE already has options. DICE can provide their own hosted servers running “Official” mode and leave all non-official but ranked servers to clans/individuals to do with as they please. That would be a win/win situation for everyone but DICE is just too brain dead to realize it. It is you who should be educated, DAI does not have admin servers,nor SWBF3.I don’t need anything what random admin renters create and offer. Why should I ,do they created licensed IP ? DICE created product \>sold it to publisher\> got $$.bls back \> support it by yourself then(dice) , not some random street people. Does ur iPhone 3d party customer service awaits you in Kongo or something? Or If your GPU dies , for warranty you go and stalk some Chinese restaurant guy so he can fix it ? ))) There are dedicated technical teams\stuff in corporations for that matter. Or make it as an optional custom servers to choose in UI, if gluttony is ur main principle u greedy corporate suit. ---
**Author:** ![BC-DurtySonuva](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bc-durtysonuva/32/104806_2.png) [@BC-DurtySonuva](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BC-DurtySonuva)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/256 "2016-09-14T16:01:00Z")
> [@ElStryfe](#): > > 100% agree from a business stand point. Maximize profit by hosting the servers on their hardware rented from Amazon, MS, etc. Don’t let the server providers get money to support their business and families. Those are guys that are going to suffer as well and probably force some of them to shutdown their business. I’m also fine with a rented server from EA as long as I can manage it to some degree like before. But if we can’t manage players/maps/ticket bleed etc. and they still want us to rent them. No thank you, find someone else to do it because I surely won’t. While we’re on this topic has anyone else noticed it takes 16 players to start a 64 player game? I had a screenshot of that somewhere and thought to myself it’s hard enough now with 4 players, let alone 16! Good point on the other GSP’s out there, didn’t think of it from their point of view. Hopefully they haven’t put all their eggs in one basket though. Heck, going from BF3 to 4 slimmed down A LOT of GSP’s too if I remember correctly (or was it BC2 to BF3?). I never started a server off in beta, but was that really the case with needing 16p for Conquest? If so, then I’m back to square one as NOBODY I know will wait in a server until 16p to officially start the round. That said, I’m guessing matchmaking will work much better this time around, so maybe it won’t take that long assuming you have some popular settings. I’ll be curious what the answer to this is… ---
**Author:** ![ElStryfe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@ElStryfe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElStryfe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/257 "2016-09-14T16:22:00Z")
Found it! [https://twitter.com/wdfgamingnet/status/772793605337538560](https://twitter.com/wdfgamingnet/status/772793605337538560) And you’re right, you may be able to get 4-5 people to start the game but 16 people are not going to wait around for a round to start. My guess too, IF you can rent servers is that it will have to be 100% their way for the match making to match you to that server. So for example if like what I put in my video was true about weapon limitations then those server will not see the match making traffic. ---
**Author:** ![BC-DurtySonuva](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bc-durtysonuva/32/104806_2.png) [@BC-DurtySonuva](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BC-DurtySonuva)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/258 "2016-09-14T16:31:00Z")
> [@ElStryfe](#): > > Found it! > > [https://twitter.com/wdfgamingnet/status/772793605337538560](https://twitter.com/wdfgamingnet/status/772793605337538560) > > And you’re right, you may be able to get 4-5 people to start the game but 16 people are not going to wait around for a round to start. My guess too, IF you can rent servers is that it will have to be 100% their way for the match making to match you to that server. So for example if like what I put in my video was true about weapon limitations then those server will not see the match making traffic. Dear doG I hope they reconsider that. That will certainly be the nail in the coffin for the people on the fence. I’d imagine for matchmaking to work, your server would have to be tailored to the players’ preferences. I’ve always stayed away from matchmaking, but it could be a blessing in disguise for smaller or new communities trying to establish themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Tireseas](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tireseas/32/103848_2.png) [@Tireseas](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Tireseas)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/259 "2016-09-14T17:07:00Z")
> [@ElStryfe](#): > > Found it! > > [https://twitter.com/wdfgamingnet/status/772793605337538560](https://twitter.com/wdfgamingnet/status/772793605337538560) > > And you’re right, you may be able to get 4-5 people to start the game but 16 people are not going to wait around for a round to start. My guess too, IF you can rent servers is that it will have to be 100% their way for the match making to match you to that server. So for example if like what I put in my video was true about weapon limitations then those server will not see the match making traffic. From the amount of clueless folks who wander into the pistol server and complain that they had no idea what they were joining, I’m not so sure custom servers should be included in matchmaking. It serves little purpose other than annoying everyone. You’re right though, if you can’t lower the amount of players required to start it’d be the kiss of death to anyone not included in matchmaking traffic. That said, and again in case DICE are reading, I’m not a fan of matchmaking being a central feature of the game period. Nothing good ever comes from pushing things towards random joining with anonymous playerbases. It kills or at least severely hampers the server community aspect of things almost universally and turns the game into a glorified bot mode outside of your friends list and platoon. You end up with less consistent server regulars, less friendly rivalries forming and lower quality experiences because of it. Worst part is people who’ve never actually experienced the above and just smack quick match don’t even realize what they’re losing. ---
**Author:** ![StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StarscreamUK)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/260 "2016-09-14T17:09:00Z")
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