# BF1 Servers - Thread for discussion of server rentals and settings\* **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [September 6, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889 "2016-09-06T04:52:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Capt\_B\_L\_Willard](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/capt_b_l_willard/32/101457_2.png) [@Capt\_B\_L\_Willard](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Capt_B_L_Willard)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/101 "2016-09-08T16:24:00Z")
[http://www.anarchygaming.uk/Forum/battlefield-5/bf1-server-rentals/](http://www.anarchygaming.uk/Forum/battlefield-5/bf1-server-rentals/) ---
**Author:** ![Sk1lld](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Sk1lld](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sk1lld)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/102 "2016-09-08T16:36:00Z")
> [@Capt\_B\_L\_Willard](#): > > [http://www.anarchygaming.uk/Forum/battlefield-5/bf1-server-rentals/](http://www.anarchygaming.uk/Forum/battlefield-5/bf1-server-rentals/) Ouch. ---
**Author:** ![labtud](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/labtud/32/102600_2.png) [@labtud](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/labtud)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/103 "2016-09-08T16:57:00Z")
limited settings and no procon omfg well there goes any variety of servers. I have no idea why any clan would spend over £500 for a 64 player server and have such limited control over it. Good bye any chance of a game being balanced (yep 2 clan squads on one team other team pugs) that is going to be so so one sided. Now this reminds me of the death of COD on PC. When they got rid of dedicated servers and modding. Oh well Dice it has been a fun ride from 1942 but good luck in the future with your console love. ---
**Author:** ![impulsive\_tango](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/aeb1de/32.png) [@impulsive\_tango](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/impulsive_tango)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/104 "2016-09-08T13:04:00Z")
Does anyone know for sure whats going on with the servers being dedicated \*like we have in BF3/4. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/105 "2016-09-08T19:23:00Z")
From what I’ve read, it’s going to be like the console server rental. Instead of renting from server providers, you will have to rent from EA and you will have limited control over them. ---
**Author:** ![KiNGisgoin2killu](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kingisgoin2killu/32/102524_2.png) [@KiNGisgoin2killu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KiNGisgoin2killu)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/106 "2016-09-08T19:49:00Z")
well this game will go like battlefront if this is the case, and last about 2-3months. ---
**Author:** ![l-Snowblind-l](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/l-snowblind-l/32/102592_2.png) [@l-Snowblind-l](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/l-Snowblind-l)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/107 "2016-09-08T19:51:00Z")
> [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > The only new information I’ve read (Not Confirmed) is that EA will be the RSP/GSP versus multiple 3rd party companies under contract and NDA … AND that procon will not be viable. > > For the record this has not been confirmed. > > Regarding EA as the GSP I do not see this as an issue. It’ll work the same as it did with any other GSP but with some added benefits. > > 1. EA/DICE fully control the server files. No 3rd party leaks. > 2. EA/DICE fully control the performance of the servers and the hardware used. > 3. Potentially lower slot costs and gained performance. I have read the same thing Rev… and ya its not confirmed but its prob the best bit info we will get until proper info is released. All this means is we will not be able to custom control the servers as have had in the past. Yes we can rent them from EA and EA will control all the host files ETC.. We will be at the mercy of what EA has and the only choice we will have is what part of the world its in East/West EU RU JP. Custom options you had mentioned before is custom enough but the days of PROCON and 3rd party hosting is gone ☹ In other words we will not get what we want as a PC community. ☹ but we will get DEDICATED RENTABLE SERVERS so … yay??? ---
**Author:** ![labtud](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/labtud/32/102600_2.png) [@labtud](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/labtud)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/108 "2016-09-08T19:53:00Z")
I remember another very popular old PC FPS that took any kind of admin ability/modding away from it’s PC version of the game. I seem to remember it not doing to well afterwards. cough cough. [![cod%20decline_1.png](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/7/2/72dcae3b0bb0d65b3ad504e131fb5a9fe88aa917.png)](http://s173.photobucket.com/user/smudge26_2007/media/cod%20decline_1.png.html) Please do not limit the EA servers to much for admins that rent them or BF will end up like this. ---
**Author:** ![PPNSteve](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ppnsteve/32/103159_2.png) [@PPNSteve](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PPNSteve)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/109 "2016-09-08T19:56:00Z")
RIP BF its been fun but now you are done. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/110 "2016-09-08T20:02:00Z")
> [@l-Snowblind-l](#): > > I have read the same thing Rev… and ya its not confirmed but its prob the best bit info we will get until proper info is released. > > All this means is we will not be able to custom control the servers as have had in the past. Yes we can rent them from EA and EA will control all the host files ETC.. > > We will be at the mercy of what EA has and the only choice we will have is what part of the world its in East/West EU RU JP. > > Custom options you had mentioned before is custom enough but the days of PROCON and 3rd party hosting is gone ☹ > > In other words we will not get what we want as a PC community. ☹ but we will get DEDICATED RENTABLE SERVERS so … yay??? Yay to a degree. The options (settings) in the beta aren’t the complete list. There may be additionals for the “Rules” section. Ping limit etc. DICE may have it’s own rcon utility. But for now we can say with a 90% certainty there will be rentable servers. That’s still a plus. We know BF4 and BFH are going to use the same UI. And we know BF4/BFH will still be able to use procon. If the new tools aren’t up to snuff and there’s enough backlash from the community things could change. ---
**Author:** ![labtud](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/labtud/32/102600_2.png) [@labtud](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/labtud)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/111 "2016-09-08T20:13:00Z")
I will just leave this here as well for EA/DICE to consider. another very popular old title that started to remove pc modding/admin abilities/procon from it’s game and force it in line with console. [![cod%20decline_1.png](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/7/2/72dcae3b0bb0d65b3ad504e131fb5a9fe88aa917.png)](http://s173.photobucket.com/user/smudge26_2007/media/cod%20decline_1.png.html) That shows the decline in player base right from when they removed true dedicated servers and mod(procon) support on PC. ---
**Author:** ![ukste](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ukste/32/104972_2.png) [@ukste](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ukste)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/112 "2016-09-08T20:18:00Z")
The end of private servers will be the end of EA/DICE … Many people will get bored like thay did with battlefront. ---
**Author:** ![labtud](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/labtud/32/102600_2.png) [@labtud](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/labtud)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/113 "2016-09-08T20:20:00Z")
exactly. Limited variety and being forced in line with console rules. It is totally going to kill off BF clans that select procon settings to set themselves apart from generic servers. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/114 "2016-09-08T22:14:00Z")
> [@TML8](#): > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > Regarding EA as the GSP I do not see this as an issue. It’ll work the same as it did with any other GSP but with some added benefits. > > > > 1. EA/DICE fully control the server files. No 3rd party leaks. > > 2. EA/DICE fully control the performance of the servers and the hardware used. > > 3. Potentially lower slot costs and gained performance. > > What does 1. refer to? No leaks of content in upcoming DLC or what? Surely that is something that RSPs would have NDAs for. Or do you mean something else? > > About 2 and 3, I’d imagine the opposite will happen at least with performance, or it is definitely a possibility. > RSP’s compete with other RSP’s. The fact that their servers work well is what sells their product. A single entity selling via EA does not have that pressure. Also I’m sure EA would love to increase the profit margin there. > Yeah it probably would mean lower slot costs, but at a cost. Alternatively it’s the same but more money is taken in the middle. > > Don’t like being cynical, but I just think it’s a fairly likely scenario. 🙂 > Or at least it is one possible scenario, likelihoods being a coin toss. > > This is **nothing** on DICE, as I believe the choices made in regards to RSP’s and making a stripped down monopoly of the business is something EA would have their hands in. > I would imagine DICE has plenty of die hard gamers, and they would most likely fall into the category of community driven rental servers. > Who knows. > > Whatever it may be that happens, some information should really be given soon enough. At least before the game is released. @TML8 1. Refers to the actual dedicated server files. DICE has to turn those files over to the GSP’s so they can set up servers. Server files get leaked. It happens with just about every game. Remember BF is Client Register → Server Authenticate. The server has the final say in whether or not your hits count. Having access to server source code gives you insight into what the server checks and how it checks. You and everyone else that plays has the client side. Having the server side completes the puzzle. EA/DICE being the one and only GSP almost guarantees those files aren’t seen by anyone lacking authority. 2 & 3. You need to understand how GSP’s work and a few term clarifications to avoid confusion. You may know all of this, but others might not. - Server / Physical machine - Refers to the actual server itself. motherboard, ram etc. - Server Rack - Basically a shelving system that the physical machines are set up in. Racks hold multiple servers. - Game Server - This refers to an installation or instance of a game’s server files (bf4 dedicated server file install). Generally referred to as a “Game Instance”. Many instances of many games run on a single server. For example you could see a single server hosting 5x CoD (linux) and 4x BF3 (windows) on the same physical machine. ---
**Author:** ![DeweysTV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/deweystv/32/101707_2.png) [@DeweysTV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DeweysTV)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/115 "2016-09-09T01:43:00Z")
EA saw the value ($$$$) in not giving up code to the GSP’s. They see it as a huge revenue maker and they want the whole pie, not just a piece. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/116 "2016-09-09T02:14:00Z")
> [@dwysywd](#): > > EA saw the value ($$$$) in not giving up code to the GSP’s. They see it as a huge revenue maker and they want the whole pie, not just a piece. If it means consistent quality server performance I’m all for it. Have the whole F’n pie. But it better run great. ---
**Author:** ![VonReisler](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/vonreisler/32/104016_2.png) [@VonReisler](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VonReisler)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/117 "2016-09-09T02:22:00Z")
In AU I play BF4 on game community servers. They run about 5 instances and have a great Forum /site. Yes they are customised, Yes they have a 120 ping limit. Yes they perma ban hackers and cheaters when reported and investigated (you won’t last more than a round or 2 before you are suspended pending explanation, bans can be appealed). Yes they are the best running and most popular servers in the country. Yes almost no one plays any other. It’s the cheaters and high pingers that I fear will ruin BF1 if there is not this immediate way to deal with them. ---
**Author:** ![DeweysTV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/deweystv/32/101707_2.png) [@DeweysTV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DeweysTV)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/118 "2016-09-09T02:27:00Z")
> [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > [@dwysywd](#): > > > > EA saw the value ($$$$) in not giving up code to the GSP’s. They see it as a huge revenue maker and they want the whole pie, not just a piece. > > If it means consistent quality server performance I’m all for it. Have the whole F’n pie. But it better run great. Agreed, but add the full control RCON gives us and I’ll continue to invest my monies in BF, though I supported NFO for many years and never had issues. Glad to see 60hz as the minimum now. Definitely different player experience between 30hz and 120hz, though 120hz was hard to find. Hope they give the option to buy up. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 6:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/119 "2016-09-09T06:43:00Z")
> [@dwysywd](#): > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > [@dwysywd](#): > > > > > > EA saw the value ($$$$) in not giving up code to the GSP’s. They see it as a huge revenue maker and they want the whole pie, not just a piece. > > > > If it means consistent quality server performance I’m all for it. Have the whole F’n pie. But it better run great. > > Agreed, but add the full control RCON gives us and I’ll continue to invest my monies in BF, though I supported NFO for many years and never had issues. > > Glad to see 60hz as the minimum now. Definitely different player experience between 30hz and 120hz, though 120hz was hard to find. Hope they give the option to buy up. NFO is my go to as well. Especially for BF titles. Rock solid hardware and support. ---
**Author:** ![labtud](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/labtud/32/102600_2.png) [@labtud](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/labtud)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 11:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889/120 "2016-09-09T11:50:00Z")
You do know that it is believed you will not have choice in what 3rd party server you will end up renting if it is true that renting a server is done through EA right ? they decide not the person/clan paying for it [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889.md?page=5) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-servers-thread-for-discussion-of-server-rentals-and-settings/103889.md?page=7)