# BF1 will be casual or won't be **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 16, 2016, 7:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342 "2016-05-16T07:34:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/swfc4eva1/32/103667_2.png) [@swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/swfc4eva1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/81 "2016-05-18T12:40:00Z")
> [@JumpyZombie](#): > > I think I found a way to make us all sort of agree on something. > > It has to do with the game giving us Options, so we can play the game in a way that feels “right” for you. > > So, Dice should give option to play Domination Mode. And Dice agrees, it gives us Domination Mode. > > Dice gives us option to use sniper rifles, and other weapons. > > Now, what some of us want are “more” options, and others yell at us that they don’t want Dice to do that. They want Dice to keep it the way it is. > > What Options do I want, … I want Options that promote team-based gaming, new scoreboard, point system, ranking system for Team-based Game Mode section in BF1. It would be an Option for everybody either to Enter the Team-based Area or not. And for long time, my suggestion to have Team-based Area is shouted down, and I’m insulted because I suggest that Option. > > Again, the more Options Dice gives us, the better. And Options that are not used, will fall by the wayside. There are lots of maps and game modes that are not used right now in BF4, the people have spoken. > > Just let Team-based players have a voice and Area where we can go to, to hang out together, you don’t have to go to that Area. > > That would be your “option” , not to go to that Area. But, give Team-based gamers their choice to pick the “option” for Team-based section in BF1 with different ranking system, point system, scoreboard that reflects and rewards players that do play the Team-based Game Mode. U get insulted coz u claim to be a team play but ain’t, team switching is lowest of the low! ---
**Author:** ![JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JumpyZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 12:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/82 "2016-05-18T12:57:00Z")
I didn’t put down anyone in my last 2 posts, yet some people have the need to revert to insults, put-downs, and bad-mouthing other gamers. Instead why don’t you add to the discussion, and give your point of view on the subject at hand. ---
**Author:** ![PopoTooStronk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/popotoostronk/32/103149_2.png) [@PopoTooStronk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PopoTooStronk)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/83 "2016-05-18T13:20:00Z")
> [@JumpyZombie](#): > > > [@PopoTooStronk](#): > > > > its a AAA title. > > > > you can bet it will be casual since its going to cater to the majority not the minority mil sim or comp players… > > Why limit the “options” bro. You are not in favor of more Options , so players can play it the way they like. Some guys do like Area to play the same game as mil sim, or comp. So have sections for that Area and see if it does become popular. I’m not saying that Dice has to remove it’s bread and butter section, just have more Options. And who knows, maybe the New Team-based Areas could become popular, and different than the COD type games. > > Again, more Options, and you get to choose your Area to play in, but don’t take away my choice or other guys choice if they do want Mil Sim Area, team-based area, or comp area. you have the option to rent servers. put in rules and you can play it however you want to and ban everyone who breaks them. there is no option that promotes team based gaming. its up to the player themselves to decide if they want to play as a team or not. you can give team based actions a million points while kills only net 10 points and people will still decide for themselves if kills are more important or not. chances are they could care less. in the end deciding to play as a team will always come down to a personal decision and cant be enforced by the game unless its removes the players freedom or gives them restrictions. you had servers on PC for CS where is you stood still for a few seconds you would loose health trying to discourage camping. i highly doubt we will see things like that soon on console. they also already gave you the option to have team play TBH: its called a platoon. find people who think the same way and squad up. best combo is to start a platoon and then together rent a server with rules and make the platoon members admin. that way you can have everyone play like you want and enforce everything as you see fit. if you actually managed to fill tons of servers that way you also have the proper data that could encourage DICE to consider your suggestion. it simply would help what you are saying. ---
**Author:** ![swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/swfc4eva1/32/103667_2.png) [@swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/swfc4eva1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/84 "2016-05-18T13:30:00Z")
> [@JumpyZombie](#): > > I didn’t put down anyone in my last 2 posts, yet some people have the need to revert to insults, put-downs, and bad-mouthing other gamers. > > Instead why don’t you add to the discussion, and give your point of view on the subject at hand. Pretty sure I have in here somewhere but here it is again ofc bf1 will be casual, bf is casual! ---
**Author:** ![lexman61](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lexman61/32/102635_2.png) [@lexman61](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lexman61)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/85 "2016-05-18T13:32:00Z")
Team play, especially in CQ, should be encouraged, but ultimately it is an individual decision. My only doubt is, if you particularly enjoy a carefree and lone wolf run-and-gun style of playing, isn’t TDM a better choice? ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Siats](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Turbo\_Siats](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Turbo_Siats)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/86 "2016-05-18T13:44:00Z")
I would like Bf1 to be slightly less casual than Bf4. I think that Battlefront, with its mediocre reviews, and with it having 1/3rd the player-base of Battlefield 4, just 6 months after its release compared with 2.5 years after Bf4’s release, shows that becoming more casual than Bf4 is not attractive to the general gaming audience. I think that Battlefield 4 was a bit too casual, as well, by having such congested gameplay (partly due to having small maps, and not that many capture points), and a lack of game dynamics. Bf1 should increase the sense of meaning to what the player is doing, by making capture points have something about them that makes them special, or useful, strategic… Other helpful things would be - larger maps, with more capture points, for 64 players - having aircraft perform some function or ability that makes them relevant to the goals of the game (maybe supply drops) - include a server-side option for limited sprint stamina, with a setting for how long stamina lasts, and how long it takes to replenish (and have a decent walk speed) And I’m sure there are more things that can be done to increase the sense of meaning and purpose in the game, to create a good sense of reason for things. ---
**Author:** ![visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/visegrip117/32/104005_2.png) [@visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/visegrip117)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/87 "2016-05-18T13:44:00Z")
> [@lexman61](#): > > Team play, especially in CQ, should be encouraged, but ultimately it is an individual decision. > > My only doubt is, if you particularly enjoy a carefree and lone wolf run-and-gun style of playing, isn’t TDM a better choice? That’s the logical thought. But In team death match everyone is doing the same thing they are and they have a target on them. Where as in an objective based game they can run around and play TDM against people who are more focused on the objectives ---
**Author:** ![swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/swfc4eva1/32/103667_2.png) [@swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/swfc4eva1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/88 "2016-05-18T13:46:00Z")
> [@visegrip117](#): > > > [@lexman61](#): > > > > Team play, especially in CQ, should be encouraged, but ultimately it is an individual decision. > > > > My only doubt is, if you particularly enjoy a carefree and lone wolf run-and-gun style of playing, isn’t TDM a better choice? > > That’s the logical thought. But In team death match everyone is doing the same thing they are and they have a target on them. Where as in an objective based game they can run around and play TDM against people who are more focused on the objectives I’m pretty sure ppls main focus is to kill no matter what game mode! ---
**Author:** ![JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JumpyZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/89 "2016-05-18T14:03:00Z")
> [@visegrip117](#): > > > [@lexman61](#): > > > > Team play, especially in CQ, should be encouraged, but ultimately it is an individual decision. > > > > My only doubt is, if you particularly enjoy a carefree and lone wolf run-and-gun style of playing, isn’t TDM a better choice? > > That’s the logical thought. But In team death match everyone is doing the same thing they are and they have a target on them. Where as in an objective based game they can run around and play TDM against people who are more focused on the objectives Yeah, pretty much sums it up. If guys were just into the killing thing, they would pick Deathmatch. But, deathmatch guys come into the Objective Game Modes because they can troll the guys that are actually playing the team based game. And as time goes on, less and less and less guys go for the flag locations or play the game mode, they just do Deathmatch in Objective game modes, and hope there are Suckers who still play the Objectives for easy kills. The deathmatch suckers feed off Objective-based players, and don’t want Dice to change anything. I think we are down to 2 or 3 players out of 32 guys that still try to play the objectives, most learned to play Deathmatch in all game modes. Thanks Dice. ---
**Author:** ![swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/swfc4eva1/32/103667_2.png) [@swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/swfc4eva1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/90 "2016-05-18T14:12:00Z")
> [@JumpyZombie](#): > > > [@visegrip117](#): > > > > > [@lexman61](#): > > > > > > Team play, especially in CQ, should be encouraged, but ultimately it is an individual decision. > > > > > > My only doubt is, if you particularly enjoy a carefree and lone wolf run-and-gun style of playing, isn’t TDM a better choice? > > > > That’s the logical thought. But In team death match everyone is doing the same thing they are and they have a target on them. Where as in an objective based game they can run around and play TDM against people who are more focused on the objectives > > Yeah, pretty much sums it up. > > If guys were just into the killing thing, they would pick Deathmatch. But, deathmatch guys come into the Objective Game Modes because they can troll the guys that are actually playing the team based game. > > And as time goes on, less and less and less guys go for the flag locations or play the game mode, they just do Deathmatch in Objective game modes, and hope there are Suckers who still play the Objectives for easy kills. > > The deathmatch suckers feed off Objective-based players, and don’t want Dice to change anything. > > I think we are down to 2 or 3 players out of 32 guys that still try to play the objectives, most learned to play Deathmatch in all game modes. Thanks Dice. Someone sounds salty coz they can’t kill lol do we really need to get into a discussion again about objective game modes! When I’m playing cq and going cap a flag my main thought is I hope there’s ppl there to kill n same when I’m defending, I’m hoping ppl will try come take the flag back! Running around dead flags is boring! ---
**Author:** ![JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JumpyZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/91 "2016-05-18T14:17:00Z")
It’s like killing fish in a barrel. You hope some newbie will nibble at the “bait”, … go for the flag, step inside the zone, come on, do it, do it, …" as you line up a head shot from other side of the map for 400 points! 🙂 Problem is, it’s harder to kill fish in a barrel. Everybody is waiting for "new’ fish to go for the bait. We are waiting for you “newbie”, play the objective. I dare you. 🙂 And I laugh my butt off, when I see Dice give 25 points in Domination for taking a flag! So funny. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PopoTooStronk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/popotoostronk/32/103149_2.png) [@PopoTooStronk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PopoTooStronk)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/92 "2016-05-18T14:18:00Z")
> [@JumpyZombie](#): > > > [@visegrip117](#): > > > > > [@lexman61](#): > > > > > > Team play, especially in CQ, should be encouraged, but ultimately it is an individual decision. > > > > > > My only doubt is, if you particularly enjoy a carefree and lone wolf run-and-gun style of playing, isn’t TDM a better choice? > > > > That’s the logical thought. But In team death match everyone is doing the same thing they are and they have a target on them. Where as in an objective based game they can run around and play TDM against people who are more focused on the objectives > > Yeah, pretty much sums it up. > > If guys were just into the killing thing, they would pick Deathmatch. But, deathmatch guys come into the Objective Game Modes because they can troll the guys that are actually playing the team based game. > > And as time goes on, less and less and less guys go for the flag locations or play the game mode, they just do Deathmatch in Objective game modes, and hope there are Suckers who still play the Objectives for easy kills. > > The deathmatch suckers feed off Objective-based players, and don’t want Dice to change anything. > > I think we are down to 2 or 3 players out of 32 guys that still try to play the objectives, most learned to play Deathmatch in all game modes. Thanks Dice. This is simply not true. You can be team player or play the objective and still kill a lot of people like in TDM. That is what good players are doing and you see that back by them having a high score. If you are being killed by someone in the middle of nowhere then the issue is with you allowing it to happen. Obviously if a player is killing you near an objective he is obviously playing the objective even if you dont want to believe it lol ---
**Author:** ![swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/swfc4eva1/32/103667_2.png) [@swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/swfc4eva1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/93 "2016-05-18T14:31:00Z")
> [@JumpyZombie](#): > > It’s like killing fish in a barrel. You hope some newbie will nibble at the “bait”, … go for the flag, step inside the zone, come on, do it, do it, …" as you line up a head shot from other side of the map for 400 points! 🙂 > > Problem is, it’s harder to kill fish in a barrel. Everybody is waiting for "new’ fish to go for the bait. > > We are waiting for you “newbie”, play the objective. I dare you. 🙂 > > And I laugh my butt off, when I see Dice give 25 points in Domination for taking a flag! So funny. 🙂 Lol I don’t play recon , also how can u claim to play the objective when u team switch to the winning team when the game gets tough, if anybody here is a noob it’s u, u pussey! ---
**Author:** ![JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JumpyZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/94 "2016-05-18T14:34:00Z")
LOL! swfc4eva1 I love it when you post the same team-switch comment almost every time I post. I love you man, don’t stop. Please , continue doing what you are doing. I talk about removing team-balance and team-switching and making the game more team-based oriented. And you keep saying I’m not a team-based player and team-switch. So funny. 🙂 I capture 2x the flags as you do and have 4x the conquest service stars as you do using sliding scale (percentage) for hours played. I played 70 hours and you 1,000 hours. And please don’t say you play 4 other modes, I checked and you played 90 percent conquest. Conquest service stars 390, Deathmatch 30, Rush 0, Domination 0. I have 149 conquest service stars after only 70 hours. And you played 1,000 hours. ---
**Author:** ![swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/swfc4eva1/32/103667_2.png) [@swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/swfc4eva1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/95 "2016-05-18T14:38:00Z")
> [@JumpyZombie](#): > > LOL! > > swfc4eva1 > I love it when you post the same team-switch comment almost every time I post. I love you man, don’t stop. Please , continue doing what you are doing. I talk about removing team-balance and team-switching and making the game more team-based oriented. And you keep saying I’m not a team-based player and team-switch. So funny. 🙂 Well if they did remove it I’d love to see ur win %, no need lie to me mate ur stats prove ur a team switcher! Ur cq service stars are fake due to team switching! Infact u should get banned for boosting! U can’t compare my stats to urs as ur a booster! ---
**Author:** ![JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JumpyZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/96 "2016-05-18T14:57:00Z")
swfc4eva1 You are so funny. Don’t stop posting. You Crack me up , and I look forward to your humorous posts. thank you! 🙂 Now, I’m boosting. Yeah, with a .88 kill stat, I’m doing a wonderful job at boosting, and kmp of .44. Yeah I’m one fantastic booster. So funny. 🙂 So , now I’m a booster and team-switcher , according to you, and you play on PS4 only and I’m on XB1! You have xbox1 but you have No games played on it for BF4. You know all about me, must be good drugs you are on, or meds. Anyway, don’t stop. ---
**Author:** ![swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/swfc4eva1/32/103667_2.png) [@swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/swfc4eva1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/97 "2016-05-18T15:03:00Z")
> [@JumpyZombie](#): > > swfc4eva1 > You are so funny. Don’t stop posting. You Crack me up , and I look forward to your humorous posts. thank you! 🙂 > > Now, I’m boosting. Yeah, with a .88 kill stat, I’m doing a wonderful job at boosting, and kmp of .44. Yeah I’m one fantastic booster. So funny. 🙂 Ur boosting ur win %! Anyways I’m gonna send u a fr on x1 n I hope u accept as I wanna see ur flag capping skills in action, what u say? ---
**Author:** ![JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JumpyZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/98 "2016-05-18T15:10:00Z")
swfc4eva1 LOL! Love you man. I don’t think it would be a fun experience to play with you. 🙂 I sort of wonder what you would do to me, if we were on the same side. C4 my heli? Shoot me in the back? 🙂 With a team-mate like you, you would be like an ex-wife who is out to hire a “hit man” to take me out. 🙂 Gee, if you wanted to be my friend, act like one, bro. 🙂 Don’t insult me every chance you get, and pat me on the back and say we should hang out and play together some time. That pat on the back probably contains a knife. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/swfc4eva1/32/103667_2.png) [@swfc4eva1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/swfc4eva1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/99 "2016-05-18T15:15:00Z")
> [@JumpyZombie](#): > > swfc4eva1 > LOL! > Love you man. I don’t think it would be a fun experience to play with you. 🙂 > I sort of wonder what you would do to me, if we were on the same side. C4 my heli? Shoot me in the back? 🙂 > > With a team-mate like you, you would be like an ex-wife who is out to hire a “hit man” to take me out. 🙂 > > Gee, if you wanted to be my friend, act like one, bro. 🙂 > > Don’t insult me every chance you get, and pat me on the back and say we should hang out and play together some time. That pat on the back probably contains a knife. 🙂 Lol I never said anything about playing on ur team ha ---
**Author:** ![JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/5f8ce5/32.png) [@JumpyZombie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JumpyZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf1-will-be-casual-or-wont-be/101342/100 "2016-05-18T15:21:00Z")
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