# Bf4 clearly not ready for launch **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 17, 2013, 9:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180 "2013-11-17T09:58:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Plump\_pingu](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Plump\_pingu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Plump_pingu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 9:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/1 "2013-11-17T09:58:52Z")
How can a company like Dice launch a game that does not work? My only experience this far is continuous crashing, inability to join anything other than tdm and sdm. I’m not the only one having said issues, look at @Battlefield’s twitter feed, it’s all platforms… ---
**Author:** ![Azzlack](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Azzlack](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Azzlack)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 10:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/2 "2013-11-17T10:45:37Z")
Pretty ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![KicksButtson](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@KicksButtson](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KicksButtson)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 11:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/3 "2013-11-17T11:20:19Z")
I haven’t had many issues at all. The campaign mode is obviously unpolished, at least compared to the multiplayer, but that was expected. ---
**Author:** ![Fackoz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Fackoz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Fackoz)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 12:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/4 "2013-11-17T12:16:41Z")
EA is pushing out a bad game to release it before the new CoD.. The game isn’t done yet and I think Dice would’ve wanted at least 1-2 months more in development. So don’t blame Dice for this, blame EA for being greedy. ---
**Author:** ![petewilko](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@petewilko](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/petewilko)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/5 "2013-11-17T13:45:48Z")
I’d like to see more proof for that statement. DICE should own their release. Pawning anything sucky off onto ea is a poor option. Its like the simcity launch (albeit it seems nowhere as bad), but lots were blaming ea. EA is the publisher, not the dev, the dev needs to own the game - the design decisions, the qa, the scalability requirements. I’ve no doubt ea pushed hard for a pre COD release, but final launch responsibility must lay with DICE, as it would if this was a roaring success. Not saying EA wouldn’t have played a part, but they are not the sole party that should be responsible, or even the majority part of any blame game. ---
**Author:** ![breakingbritt](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/3e96dc/32.png) [@breakingbritt](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/breakingbritt)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/6 "2013-11-17T13:48:34Z")
I have been able to get Rush to work. I have yet to be able to play a game with my other party members. That’s getting frustrating. I really wish conquest was working. I love Battlefield. This is so disappointing. ---
**Author:** ![Ashifyer](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@Ashifyer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ashifyer)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/7 "2013-11-17T13:52:21Z")
Completely agree with you, but what I don’t understand is why the major problems it has (crashes etc) are so difficult to fix. The Beta, although I noticed bugs while playing, was a huge amount more stable. ---
**Author:** ![MooseontheInterstate](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MooseontheInterstate](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MooseontheInterstate)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/8 "2013-11-17T15:39:10Z")
I think the game is great when it works.. And in my casual playtime of it… I had only 1 craah during a game ---
**Author:** ![THSeaMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@THSeaMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/THSeaMonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/9 "2013-11-17T15:49:25Z")
Not sure why everyone is going nuts about the game’s quality. So it’s got some bugs and crashes? I’ve still had a boatload of fun playing the new game and enjoying all the new features. Am I the only one who really thought it was well worth the money? Am I totally crazy? Every major launch is going to have problems. Halo 2, Counter strike, starcraft, cod4, gta v, and a slew of other successful titles all had their fair share of problems. Can’t anyone be grateful for what we have access to and stop whining. ---
**Author:** ![ndrww](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/f08c70/32.png) [@ndrww](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ndrww)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/10 "2013-11-17T16:18:17Z")
This is the answer you’re looking for. I’m in agreement 100%. ---
**Author:** ![xoorath](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/d78d45/32.png) [@xoorath](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xoorath)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/11 "2013-11-17T16:26:21Z")
As a game developer: that’s not how it works in most cases. Most publishers act as clients and offer a budget in exchange for a dramatic amount of control. They can set unrealistic requirements and get involved in the design as much as they want. I wouldn’t blame EA if I were you, I’d blame gamers for rushing out to throw money at products they don’t know the quality of. Demand demo versions before paying them. Companies wont change their practices unless the whole community speaks up. The people who decide on release dates, feature crunches, and things like that aren’t evil they’re just acting on behalf of their share holders. It’s illegal for them not to. So just make it a bad business decision to keep doing this instead of throwing money at them based on hype instead of quality. ---
**Author:** ![derekwtg](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@derekwtg](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/derekwtg)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/12 "2013-11-17T17:50:52Z")
Personally, I’ve had the occasional crash but otherwise I’ve spent lots of time playing great games. Played for hours already yesterday and friday night with almost no issue. Really loving the game after not having much fun with BF3. ---
**Author:** ![Plump\_pingu](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Plump\_pingu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Plump_pingu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/13 "2013-11-17T17:57:52Z")
Some bugs and Crashes? Have you looked at @Battlefield’s twitter feed? It’s not the fact that there are some random crashes that will be fixed by bugs, it has everything to do with the fact that for a majority of users the game is simply unplayable. You cannot join most game mods, find a populated server, battle log has tons of bugs, so does the commander app, countless crashes mid game, cant play any games with 64 players. How is this acceptable? If you worked at a company and you showed a product that was the same quality to your boss, how would he react? We need to let Dice know that this is unacceptable, or nothing will ever change. If you say launch date is Nov 15, have a game that is playable. Yes there will be patches to fix MINOR bugs, but not to make is to that you can finally play the game. ---
**Author:** ![mynis](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/a8b319/32.png) [@mynis](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mynis)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/15 "2013-11-17T19:01:36Z")
Yeah everything is working fine for me here for a while. The first couple days I was getting crashes and disconnects but then I reformatted my machine with Win 8.1 and installed the beta nVidia drivers. That fixed the crashes for me for whatever reason it seems, and then they released the server update. I’m having a lot of fun with it. Edit: I fixed fps drops by disabling dx11 as well. ---
**Author:** ![catullus48108](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@catullus48108](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/catullus48108)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/16 "2013-11-17T19:34:41Z")
This is why the games are being released in such shitty condition. Until people like this stop paying companies for a crappy product, product will be crappy. Stop preordering software and making excuses for poor project planning and you will start receiving quality. I know because I am in the industry and know as long as customers are willing to pay for poor quality, they will continue to receive it ---
**Author:** ![MaximumAbsorbency](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@MaximumAbsorbency](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MaximumAbsorbency)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/17 "2013-11-17T19:45:04Z")
Seriously… I’m about 120 hours deep now and loving it. It’s not perfect but its not so bad that I’ll quit for a year like I did with BF3 (where I only have 140 hours played total) ---
**Author:** ![MorkSal](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/3e96dc/32.png) [@MorkSal](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MorkSal)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/18 "2013-11-17T20:14:41Z")
I’ve been playing it since launch (end of October) and besides the first week I haven’t crashed at all (even for the first week or so, I only had a few crashes). The game is now stable, looks gorgeous and runes well for me. ---
**Author:** ![arctprime](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/8c91f0/32.png) [@arctprime](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/arctprime)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/19 "2013-11-17T21:15:07Z")
I was unaware that bugs fixed crashes. Also bf4 supports mods? Please elaborate. You seem to really know what you are talking about. ---
**Author:** ![ClutchHunter](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@ClutchHunter](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ClutchHunter)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/20 "2013-11-17T21:47:30Z")
> only ---
**Author:** ![MaximumAbsorbency](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@MaximumAbsorbency](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MaximumAbsorbency)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180/21 "2013-11-17T21:53:15Z")
I have over 400 in BFBC2, and the aforementioned 120 in BF4 already Losing my job sucked but at least I did before BF4 came out. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-clearly-not-ready-for-launch/110180.md?page=2)