# BF4 is going to be another dumbed down console port **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 18, 2013, 8:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589 "2013-03-18T08:22:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChargerCarl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 8:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/1 "2013-03-18T08:22:03Z")
long live bf2 ---
**Author:** ![Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/22d042/32.png) [@Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kalahan7)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 8:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/2 "2013-03-18T08:28:10Z")
You absolutely know nothing about the game but don’t hesitate to condemn it. Your opinion is worthless. ---
**Author:** ![ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChargerCarl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/3 "2013-03-18T08:39:47Z")
Give me one good reason why it won’t be. ---
**Author:** ![muzfuz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@muzfuz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/muzfuz)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 8:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/4 "2013-03-18T08:45:52Z")
Because the new generation of consoles are basically mid-range PCs. ---
**Author:** ![Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/22d042/32.png) [@Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kalahan7)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 9:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/5 "2013-03-18T09:10:05Z")
How about we act logical and you give me one good reason why it will be a dumbed down console port instead of just presuming the worst? You act like DICE doesn’t know how to make a PC game. You know what, never mind. I don’t need to hear it. If you start bitching about something you know nothing about you pretty much lose all credibility. ---
**Author:** ![cenorexia](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cenorexia](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/cenorexia)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/6 "2013-03-18T10:44:42Z")
I think the problem with BF3 being so “console-y” was because they tried to fit the game on the PC (which wouldn’t be the problem) but also on the PS3 & Xbox360, two systems running on 2005/2006 hardware! So quite some adjustments had to be done to ensure the game is more or less “equal” on all three systems (apart from the player count, obviously). Now the next installment in the series will debut around 2014, again on PC-, PlayStation- and Xbox-Systems. But this time the consoles are more or less “brand new”, using contemporary technology. So this time the console versions _should_ be able to deliver a more “pc worthy” experience. ---
**Author:** ![RicardoCasco](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@RicardoCasco](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RicardoCasco)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/7 "2013-03-18T12:45:29Z")
Because a PC has hundreds of keys and a Console has limited so developing a game for a console that can only use 25% of graphics power compared to a PC and having to limit features because a console can’t handle them is a dumbed down console port. Imagine trying to make Arma 3 a console port. Impossible because of the graphics requirements and the hundreds if not thousands of keyboard commands and shortcuts. An ex-DICE employee admitted that they were competing with CoD and rushing the game before CoD was released and blamed most of the missing features on lack of time. Hopefully now that CoD is stopped and next-gen consoles have at least a bit more modern hardware we can see more features being implemented. ---
**Author:** ![ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChargerCarl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/8 "2013-03-18T18:56:06Z")
[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122736-Nvidia-Claims-PS4-Is-Only-as-Good-as-a-Low-End-PC](http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122736-Nvidia-Claims-PS4-Is-Only-as-Good-as-a-Low-End-PC) ---
**Author:** ![ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChargerCarl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/9 "2013-03-18T18:56:38Z")
ok 1. Because BF3 was a dumbed down piece of shit console port ---
**Author:** ![ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChargerCarl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/10 "2013-03-18T18:59:02Z")
It’s not the graphics that fuck up BF3 though (although they are annoying) it’s the lack of features, lack of teamplay, lack of voip, shitty maps, no mod tools, shitty hit reg and gun play etc It’s like BF for stupid people ---
**Author:** ![Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/22d042/32.png) [@Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kalahan7)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/11 "2013-03-18T19:00:26Z")
So all games from a studio are exactly the same. Got it. Makes PERFECT sense! ---
**Author:** ![ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChargerCarl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/12 "2013-03-18T19:01:51Z")
Give me a reason BF4 will be more like BF2/2142 and less like dumbed down BF3 ---
**Author:** ![Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/22d042/32.png) [@Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kalahan7)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/13 "2013-03-18T19:13:49Z")
Yeah, you’re right. Studios NEVER learn from their mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChargerCarl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/14 "2013-03-18T19:18:47Z")
EA doesn’t. It’s all about casualization. They did it with Mass Effect, dead space, BF, Sim City, etc ---
**Author:** ![Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/22d042/32.png) [@Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kalahan7)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 7:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/15 "2013-03-18T19:36:08Z")
Ugh. So I presume Sim City is a dumbed down console port too. Just STFU already. ---
**Author:** ![ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChargerCarl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/16 "2013-03-18T19:50:14Z")
dumbed down yes and I’ll STFU when you give me a good reason why BF4 won’t be dumbed down like BF3 was ---
**Author:** ![Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/22d042/32.png) [@Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kalahan7)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/17 "2013-03-18T20:03:03Z")
Yeah I remember people complaining about how Sim City is dumbed down in comparison to SC4. Apparently the resource management, new city trading feature, neighbor cities effects, upgradable structures, city specialization, great works and new road system all where in SC4 too but people just didn’t know about it. > and I’ll STFU when you give me a good reason why BF4 won’t be dumbed down like BF3 was OK, fine, don’t shut up. Talk all you want. I’m sure anything you have to say will be very well thought out. ---
**Author:** ![ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChargerCarl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/18 "2013-03-18T20:13:25Z")
all of that was in SC4 base game or modded in _yawn_ ---
**Author:** ![Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/22d042/32.png) [@Kalahan7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kalahan7)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/19 "2013-03-18T20:21:15Z")
Oh absolutely. And you are an intelligent and well spoken human being too. ---
**Author:** ![ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@ChargerCarl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChargerCarl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589/20 "2013-03-18T20:24:19Z")
what evidence do you have that BF4 won’t be a dumbed down piece of shit like BF3 was? [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4-is-going-to-be-another-dumbed-down-console-port/109589.md?page=2)