# BF4DB is back (again)! **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [May 6, 2017, 2:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815 "2017-05-06T14:12:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BurtTheBlueberry](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/burttheblueberry/32/105514_2.png) [@BurtTheBlueberry](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BurtTheBlueberry)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/21 "2017-05-12T13:09:00Z")
> [@Aim4Sneaky](#): > > I found 4 people banned that I’ve played against in both pub and competitive that I know to be legit, once again BF4DB is just run by angry admins that ban anyone with a decent KD or decent accuracy, what a joke. You can check the ban reason. Most everyone that played comp that has a ban is due to a linked account they cheated on. ---
**Author:** ![hockeeyyyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hockeeyyyy/32/105590_2.png) [@hockeeyyyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/hockeeyyyy)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/22 "2017-05-12T15:09:00Z")
> [@Aim4Sneaky](#): > > I found 4 people banned that I’ve played against in both pub and competitive that I know to be legit, once again BF4DB is just run by angry admins that ban anyone with a decent KD or decent accuracy, what a joke. Okay. Provide examples. ---
**Author:** ![0ld\_yell0w](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/0ld_yell0w/32/104784_2.png) [@0ld\_yell0w](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/0ld_yell0w)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/23 "2017-05-12T15:45:00Z")
Aim4Sneaky why dont you post your concern at [bf4db.com](http://bf4db.com) ? at the bf4db forum you can name them without breaking any rules here. ---
**Author:** ![Frogtooth](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frogtooth/32/102009_2.png) [@Frogtooth](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Frogtooth)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/24 "2017-05-12T16:31:00Z")
> [@Aim4Sneaky](#): > > I found 4 people banned that I’ve played against in both pub and competitive that I know to be legit, once again BF4DB is just run by angry admins that ban anyone with a decent KD or decent accuracy, what a joke. There is a public admission posted online by one of these banned players that goes something like this: > [@](#): > > everyone knows I have pb bans kiddo, No one cares, a ton of people have pb bans. XXXXX, and XXXXXX have multiple bans. XXXXXXXX, XXXX, XXXX, and the list goes on you act like I’m the only person who has ever hacked. You can put away the indignation. They got caught. Maybe they never cheated with their main accounts (or maybe they did–who knows) and you can debate whether linked accounts should be grounds for banning, but under the rules used by most admins and anti-cheat organizations, these guys are guilty. ---
**Author:** ![hockeeyyyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hockeeyyyy/32/105590_2.png) [@hockeeyyyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/hockeeyyyy)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/25 "2017-05-12T18:35:00Z")
Pretty sure I have a better KDR than anyone he’s whining about anyway. So does Nadeko. And KevinRudd. KDR isn’t a good barometer for testing if someone’s cheating anyway. So silly. ---
**Author:** ![Aim4Sneaky](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aim4sneaky/32/101160_2.png) [@Aim4Sneaky](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Aim4Sneaky)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/26 "2017-05-13T14:20:00Z")
> [@Frogtooth](#): > > You can put away the indignation. They got caught. Maybe they never cheated with their main accounts (or maybe they did–who knows) and you can debate whether linked accounts should be grounds for banning, but under the rules used by most admins and anti-cheat organizations, these guys are guilty. Send me a friend request please, if we’re talking about the same players I’d like to see this, if I’m missing something I’ll happily be informed as to what they’ve been up to, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![tokrot](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tokrot/32/103857_2.png) [@tokrot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tokrot)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/27 "2017-05-13T18:34:00Z")
> [@hockeeyyyy](#): > > New owners, new(ish) admins, and new look. > > This is the result of months of efforts from the four admins to get this up and running with a clearer and firmer ruleset to help server admins and players make more conscious and detailed decisions on whether someone is cheating or innocent in Battlefield 4. The site is being upgraded and expanded as we speak, so don’t hesitate to offer critiques / suggestions. > > Link to BF4DB [https://bf4db.com/](https://bf4db.com/) > > Link to my profile [https://bf4db.com/player/330996211](https://bf4db.com/player/330996211) That’s rather weird and funny Hockey… My last check on your BD4DB acct you’ve about an average of 3 to 4KPM across all weapons? What happened now? Your KPM is worst than my smurf account on all average.. LOL.. I guess you’re an admin now and trying to do some clean up.. LMAO.. ---
**Author:** ![BurtTheBlueberry](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/burttheblueberry/32/105514_2.png) [@BurtTheBlueberry](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BurtTheBlueberry)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/28 "2017-05-13T19:24:00Z")
> [@tokrot](#): > > > [@hockeeyyyy](#): > > > > New owners, new(ish) admins, and new look. > > > > This is the result of months of efforts from the four admins to get this up and running with a clearer and firmer ruleset to help server admins and players make more conscious and detailed decisions on whether someone is cheating or innocent in Battlefield 4. The site is being upgraded and expanded as we speak, so don’t hesitate to offer critiques / suggestions. > > > > Link to BF4DB [https://bf4db.com/](https://bf4db.com/) > > > > Link to my profile [https://bf4db.com/player/330996211](https://bf4db.com/player/330996211) > > That’s rather weird and funny Hockey… My last check on your BD4DB acct you’ve about an average of 3 to 4KPM across all weapons? What happened now? Your KPM is worst than my smurf account on all average.. LOL.. I guess you’re an admin now and trying to do some clean up.. LMAO.. [http://bf4db.com/player/1557350665](http://bf4db.com/player/1557350665) Not really… ---
**Author:** ![SpoolaZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@SpoolaZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SpoolaZ)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/29 "2017-05-13T20:13:00Z")
> [@Aim4Sneaky](#): > > I found 4 people banned that I’ve played against in both pub and competitive that I know to be legit, once again BF4DB is just run by angry admins that ban anyone with a decent KD or decent accuracy, what a joke. How do you know they are legit? Just because they play competitive does not automatically mean they can not cheat. ---
**Author:** ![Frogtooth](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frogtooth/32/102009_2.png) [@Frogtooth](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Frogtooth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/30 "2017-05-13T21:36:00Z")
> [@Aim4Sneaky](#): > > Send me a friend request please, if we’re talking about the same players I’d like to see this, if I’m missing something I’ll happily be informed as to what they’ve been up to, thanks. You’d be delusional to think comp players don’t sometimes cheat. Focus your energies on defending thems that deserve it. Request sent. ---
**Author:** ![BurtTheBlueberry](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/burttheblueberry/32/105514_2.png) [@BurtTheBlueberry](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BurtTheBlueberry)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/31 "2017-05-14T00:20:00Z")
> [@Frogtooth](#): > > > [@Aim4Sneaky](#): > > > > Send me a friend request please, if we’re talking about the same players I’d like to see this, if I’m missing something I’ll happily be informed as to what they’ve been up to, thanks. > > You’d be delusional to think comp players don’t sometimes cheat. Focus your energies on defending thems that deserve it. > Request sent. Completely agree. Don’t blindly defend people without first asking for and looking at the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![hockeeyyyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hockeeyyyy/32/105590_2.png) [@hockeeyyyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/hockeeyyyy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/32 "2017-05-14T00:30:00Z")
> [@BurtTheBlueberry](#): > > > [@tokrot](#): > > > > > [@hockeeyyyy](#): > > > > > > New owners, new(ish) admins, and new look. > > > > > > This is the result of months of efforts from the four admins to get this up and running with a clearer and firmer ruleset to help server admins and players make more conscious and detailed decisions on whether someone is cheating or innocent in Battlefield 4. The site is being upgraded and expanded as we speak, so don’t hesitate to offer critiques / suggestions. > > > > > > Link to BF4DB [https://bf4db.com/](https://bf4db.com/) > > > > > > Link to my profile [https://bf4db.com/player/330996211](https://bf4db.com/player/330996211) > > > > That’s rather weird and funny Hockey… My last check on your BD4DB acct you’ve about an average of 3 to 4KPM across all weapons? What happened now? Your KPM is worst than my smurf account on all average.. LOL.. I guess you’re an admin now and trying to do some clean up.. LMAO.. > > [http://bf4db.com/player/1557350665](http://bf4db.com/player/1557350665) Not really… Yikes, those stats are terrible. I guess I can flag him for definitely never going to get accused of cheating. ---
**Author:** ![hockeeyyyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hockeeyyyy/32/105590_2.png) [@hockeeyyyy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/hockeeyyyy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/33 "2017-05-14T00:31:00Z")
> [@Frogtooth](#): > > > [@Aim4Sneaky](#): > > > > Send me a friend request please, if we’re talking about the same players I’d like to see this, if I’m missing something I’ll happily be informed as to what they’ve been up to, thanks. > > You’d be delusional to think comp players don’t sometimes cheat. Focus your energies on defending thems that deserve it. > Request sent. Agreed. The competitive community keeps a very tight leash on everyone – when someone gets caught, they generally get exiled. ---
**Author:** ![NoProblemoBud](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/87869e/32.png) [@NoProblemoBud](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NoProblemoBud)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/34 "2017-05-14T04:24:00Z")
> [@tokrot](#): > > > [@hockeeyyyy](#): > > > > New owners, new(ish) admins, and new look. > > > > This is the result of months of efforts from the four admins to get this up and running with a clearer and firmer ruleset to help server admins and players make more conscious and detailed decisions on whether someone is cheating or innocent in Battlefield 4. The site is being upgraded and expanded as we speak, so don’t hesitate to offer critiques / suggestions. > > > > Link to BF4DB [https://bf4db.com/](https://bf4db.com/) > > > > Link to my profile [https://bf4db.com/player/330996211](https://bf4db.com/player/330996211) > > That’s rather weird and funny Hockey… My last check on your BD4DB acct you’ve about an average of 3 to 4KPM across all weapons? What happened now? Your KPM is worst than my smurf account on all average.. LOL.. I guess you’re an admin now and trying to do some clean up.. LMAO.. Funny I also thought that same. But this guy was always given a clean slate on last bf4db even though stats looked like a red xmas tree. And now he a “Certified Pro” on the new bfdb4. LOL. I am going to create a site and say I’m president of the world. Also he worked at ACI site clearing himself. ---
**Author:** ![tokrot](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tokrot/32/103857_2.png) [@tokrot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tokrot)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/35 "2017-05-14T09:33:00Z")
> [@NoProblemoBud](#): > > > [@tokrot](#): > > > > > [@hockeeyyyy](#): > > > > > > New owners, new(ish) admins, and new look. > > > > > > This is the result of months of efforts from the four admins to get this up and running with a clearer and firmer ruleset to help server admins and players make more conscious and detailed decisions on whether someone is cheating or innocent in Battlefield 4. The site is being upgraded and expanded as we speak, so don’t hesitate to offer critiques / suggestions. > > > > > > Link to BF4DB [https://bf4db.com/](https://bf4db.com/) > > > > > > Link to my profile [https://bf4db.com/player/330996211](https://bf4db.com/player/330996211) > > > > That’s rather weird and funny Hockey… My last check on your BD4DB acct you’ve about an average of 3 to 4KPM across all weapons? What happened now? Your KPM is worst than my smurf account on all average.. LOL.. I guess you’re an admin now and trying to do some clean up.. LMAO.. > > Funny I also thought that same. But this guy was always given a clean slate on last bf4db even though stats looked like a red xmas tree. And now he a “Certified Pro” on the new bfdb4. LOL. I am going to create a site and say I’m president of the world. Also he worked at ACI site clearing himself. LOL i assume you meant this? ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/a/5/a5c748d82355805db8ab2e3ff79a2f2b38885a37.jpeg) B) Godspeed to you, Mr new President LMAO!! ---
**Author:** ![NoProblemoBud](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/87869e/32.png) [@NoProblemoBud](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NoProblemoBud)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/36 "2017-05-14T16:01:00Z")
No, use the search field and enter this players name. And after the search completes, look at text in orange next to his name “Verified Pro” ---
**Author:** ![0ld\_yell0w](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/0ld_yell0w/32/104784_2.png) [@0ld\_yell0w](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/0ld_yell0w)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/37 "2017-05-14T19:08:00Z")
Making a whitelist is bad for BF4DB, sorry to say I dont know Hockey and I have no reason to believe he is a cheater but it aint good for the community that you can not report a player no matter who they are. I still have a few of the old admins from old BF4DB on my friendslist and as far as I know they dont call themselves pro or any term related to that, and didn’t back then. (they are very good players though). I don’t like the term “pro” either, its an arcade shooter with a touch of realism nothing more - the last is perhaps just my personal preference more than anything but I never thought of BF-series as a competitive gaming environment unless you neutered the maps and the weapons loadout to something the game is not, its huge with vehicles, jets and helos and should be all about teamwork and at some point strategy to overcome and capture terr. Back to topic 😉 I have to say if BF4DB is going to whitelist players of any sort, Im not relying on them at all but Sticks to other streaming services as I already do. regards 0ld\_yell0w ---
**Author:** ![BurtTheBlueberry](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/burttheblueberry/32/105514_2.png) [@BurtTheBlueberry](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BurtTheBlueberry)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/38 "2017-05-14T19:39:00Z")
The verified pro status is just a status given to known clean players who are likely to receive reports. It in no way white lists those players. They can still be reported and the info provided will still be looked at and they can still be banned. It’s just a label so if others are unsure of a player and look them up on Bf4db then they can see that it is a skilled player. If you can reasonably prove anyone with the label is a cheater then don’t hesitate to report them. ---
**Author:** ![Aim4Sneaky](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aim4sneaky/32/101160_2.png) [@Aim4Sneaky](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Aim4Sneaky)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/39 "2017-05-14T23:14:00Z")
> [@Frogtooth](#): > > > [@Aim4Sneaky](#): > > > > Send me a friend request please, if we’re talking about the same players I’d like to see this, if I’m missing something I’ll happily be informed as to what they’ve been up to, thanks. > > You’d be delusional to think comp players don’t sometimes cheat. Focus your energies on defending thems that deserve it. > Request sent. I didn’t say that comp players don’t sometimes cheat, I know for a fact that some do but what I’m saying is, the ones that I had picked out were ones I had played against previously in both pub and competitive, and they didn’t do anything suspicious in either, we have even won against one of the banned players’ teams. Obviously I can’t name and shame but one is banned for a multi hack, what are you basing this off of? Where is the proof? If he uses a multi hack, why am I able to play equally as good as him if not better when playing against him? I think it’s just a case of bad players thinking better players cheat, as usual. ---
**Author:** ![Aim4Sneaky](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aim4sneaky/32/101160_2.png) [@Aim4Sneaky](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Aim4Sneaky)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815/40 "2017-05-14T23:16:00Z")
> [@hockeeyyyy](#): > > > [@Aim4Sneaky](#): > > > > I found 4 people banned that I’ve played against in both pub and competitive that I know to be legit, once again BF4DB is just run by angry admins that ban anyone with a decent KD or decent accuracy, what a joke. > > Okay. Provide examples. I can’t name and shame here, send me a friend request and we can discuss this. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815.md?page=1) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bf4db-is-back-again/104815.md?page=3)