# BFV dedicated servers **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 26, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685 "2018-05-26T03:47:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/281 "2018-10-03T02:03:00Z")
> [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > > > > > > > So where were the DICE official servers at the time in BF3? They are the ones responsible for keeping those Vanilla servers up. So without them the community rented servers were the only reason there were servers. > > > > > > There were none. > > > > > > If there was no server rental, then they would have had no choice but to pay the bills themselves. > > > > Don’t see any BF4 Official servers … CQ Large, All Maps. I assume if there was enough demand for whatever is you like there’d be a rental version of it. Like true official settings. No admin, all maps. > > > > You could put one up yourself, then get donations to keep it running…if enough players liked it. > > I believe there would be a demand for official servers if they represented them similarly to CS:GO. MM only using official servers. Yeah a team based, squad focused game solely relying on MM. Uh huh that’s going to work out real well long term. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Cool\_Gorilla](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/a_cool_gorilla/32/101122_2.png) [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/A_Cool_Gorilla)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/282 "2018-10-03T02:17:00Z")
> [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > > > > > > > > > So where were the DICE official servers at the time in BF3? They are the ones responsible for keeping those Vanilla servers up. So without them the community rented servers were the only reason there were servers. > > > > > > > > There were none. > > > > > > > > If there was no server rental, then they would have had no choice but to pay the bills themselves. > > > > > > Don’t see any BF4 Official servers … CQ Large, All Maps. I assume if there was enough demand for whatever is you like there’d be a rental version of it. Like true official settings. No admin, all maps. > > > > > > You could put one up yourself, then get donations to keep it running…if enough players liked it. > > > > I believe there would be a demand for official servers if they represented them similarly to CS:GO. MM only using official servers. > > Yeah a team based, squad focused game solely relying on MM. Uh huh that’s going to work out real well long term. You realize you can have the server browser access official servers, right? It’s not like those filtering options would be removed. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/283 "2018-10-03T03:12:00Z")
> [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > > > > > > > > > > > So where were the DICE official servers at the time in BF3? They are the ones responsible for keeping those Vanilla servers up. So without them the community rented servers were the only reason there were servers. > > > > > > > > > > There were none. > > > > > > > > > > If there was no server rental, then they would have had no choice but to pay the bills themselves. > > > > > > > > Don’t see any BF4 Official servers … CQ Large, All Maps. I assume if there was enough demand for whatever is you like there’d be a rental version of it. Like true official settings. No admin, all maps. > > > > > > > > You could put one up yourself, then get donations to keep it running…if enough players liked it. > > > > > > I believe there would be a demand for official servers if they represented them similarly to CS:GO. MM only using official servers. > > > > Yeah a team based, squad focused game solely relying on MM. Uh huh that’s going to work out real well long term. > > You realize you can have the server browser access official servers, right? It’s not like those filtering options would be removed. I’m very well educated in the usage of the server browser. So what’s your point? Without RSP all servers are Official. So a browser really isn’t needed. Then you end up with a MM squading system like PubG. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Cool\_Gorilla](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/a_cool_gorilla/32/101122_2.png) [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/A_Cool_Gorilla)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/284 "2018-10-03T03:15:00Z")
> [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So where were the DICE official servers at the time in BF3? They are the ones responsible for keeping those Vanilla servers up. So without them the community rented servers were the only reason there were servers. > > > > > > > > > > > > There were none. > > > > > > > > > > > > If there was no server rental, then they would have had no choice but to pay the bills themselves. > > > > > > > > > > Don’t see any BF4 Official servers … CQ Large, All Maps. I assume if there was enough demand for whatever is you like there’d be a rental version of it. Like true official settings. No admin, all maps. > > > > > > > > > > You could put one up yourself, then get donations to keep it running…if enough players liked it. > > > > > > > > I believe there would be a demand for official servers if they represented them similarly to CS:GO. MM only using official servers. > > > > > > Yeah a team based, squad focused game solely relying on MM. Uh huh that’s going to work out real well long term. > > > > You realize you can have the server browser access official servers, right? It’s not like those filtering options would be removed. > > I’m very well educated in the usage of the server browser. So what’s your point? > > Without RSP all servers are Official. So a browser really isn’t needed. Then you end up with a MM squading system like PubG. CS:GO has community servers… with a system similar to CS:GO, you could still have rentable servers. There are better solutions than how Battlefield 3 handled things, and there are better solutions than how PUBG handles things. It’s possible to have a middle ground. ---
**Author:** ![Hay-its-dudeman](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/d2c977/32.png) [@Hay-its-dudeman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hay-its-dudeman)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 12:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/285 "2018-10-03T12:42:00Z")
> [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > I think CS:GO does it great, since there’s a clear divide between official servers and community servers. Black Ops 3 also had that clear divide. If they go that route, I’d be A-okay with it. Honestly, rented servers only help the game if the game needs help. When I see that the only populated servers in my region are rented ones, I think, “Oh. This game must be dead.”, and then I go play a more popular game that can gaurantee I will see good action. The fact that we are even having this discussion is a big-time problem. Part of the baseline experience of buying an online multiplayer game is having servers to play it on. if that’s in question, the whole product is trash. If a game that depends on a community bending over backwards is a thing, I’m out. They need to get their stuff together. Holy crap… ---
**Author:** ![l\_water\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@l\_water\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/l_water_l)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/286 "2018-10-03T13:10:00Z")
The thing is, they get like 10 or so people paying for the rsp servers on each platform. That’s pennies to them. They could make SO much more money selling the rights to host 3rd party servers to other game hosting services. Allow proper server admin control and actually put these private servers into the quickmatch que. The primary issue, and ea/dice will denounce this with their hands on a bible but its true, is they do not want long lasting communities formed around their games. They don’t want people to still play bf1 years and years after release like people do with bf2-3-4. That doesn’t make them money. That’s why each new game feels more and more cookie cutter and is considered a service and not a game. ---
**Author:** ![Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Axlerod1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/287 "2018-10-03T22:58:00Z")
it actually works out to be about the same. EA and DICE would have a lot less headache however. Again, Rental Servers goes against the All Access monthly Subscription that EA wants to promote. They just want us to give them money so they can say they are giving us something. ---
**Author:** ![Amphybiouse](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Amphybiouse](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Amphybiouse)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/288 "2018-10-04T20:38:00Z")
> [@Metal\_Jockets](#): > > A tweet from @dan\_mitre … > "“In a couple of weeks (give or take) you’ll get a close look at Maps and Multiplayer features. Community Tools like RSP, Platoons, Squad comms, etc. are things we need to get into more - we’re discussing how to do so and at what level we can detail them out.” > > [https://twitter.com/dan\_mitre/status/1043213064676335616](https://twitter.com/dan_mitre/status/1043213064676335616) it’s what, a couple of months before the release date (delayed, mind you) and they’re only **discussing** the possibility of implementing any community features. if we pretend for a second that the tweet is true…than what they’re saying is that they’re disgustingly incompetent and have absolutely no idea what they’re doing. and that’s the best case scenario. ---
**Author:** ![Metal\_Jockets](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/metal_jockets/32/102792_2.png) [@Metal\_Jockets](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Metal_Jockets)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/289 "2018-10-05T02:17:00Z")
> [@Amphybiouse](#): > > > [@Metal\_Jockets](#): > > > > A tweet from @dan\_mitre … > > "“In a couple of weeks (give or take) you’ll get a close look at Maps and Multiplayer features. Community Tools like RSP, Platoons, Squad comms, etc. are things we need to get into more - we’re discussing how to do so and at what level we can detail them out.” > > > > [https://twitter.com/dan\_mitre/status/1043213064676335616](https://twitter.com/dan_mitre/status/1043213064676335616) > > it’s what, a couple of months before the release date (delayed, mind you) and they’re only **discussing** the possibility of implementing any community features. > if we pretend for a second that the tweet is true…than what they’re saying is that they’re disgustingly incompetent and have absolutely no idea what they’re doing. and that’s the best case scenario. Yes agree.. My last twitter coversation… [https://twitter.com/Metal\_JT/status/1045951934400610304](https://twitter.com/Metal_JT/status/1045951934400610304) Clearly it means nothing but I will keep hounding till we get an answer either way. ---
**Author:** ![olT3lo](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/olt3lo/32/104929_2.png) [@olT3lo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/olT3lo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/290 "2018-10-05T07:02:00Z")
> [@Hay-its-dudeman](#): > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > > > I think CS:GO does it great, since there’s a clear divide between official servers and community servers. Black Ops 3 also had that clear divide. If they go that route, I’d be A-okay with it. > > Honestly, rented servers only help the game if the game needs help. > > When I see that the only populated servers in my region are rented ones, I think, “Oh. This game must be dead.”, and then I go play a more popular game that can gaurantee I will see good action. > > The fact that we are even having this discussion is a big-time problem. > > Part of the baseline experience of buying an online multiplayer game is having servers to play it on. if that’s in question, the whole product is trash. If a game that depends on a community bending over backwards is a thing, I’m out. They need to get their stuff together. Holy crap… You must come from the console world, or your very young. That’s the only explanation for your apparent lack of knowledge about how things USED to work in PC gaming. Almost EVERY GAME used rental servers. There was no matchmaking, and things were fine for most of us. ---
**Author:** ![Reverend-1313](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e47c2d/32.png) [@Reverend-1313](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Reverend-1313)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/291 "2018-10-05T15:14:00Z")
> [@olT3lo](#): > > > [@Hay-its-dudeman](#): > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > > > > > I think CS:GO does it great, since there’s a clear divide between official servers and community servers. Black Ops 3 also had that clear divide. If they go that route, I’d be A-okay with it. > > > > Honestly, rented servers only help the game if the game needs help. > > > > When I see that the only populated servers in my region are rented ones, I think, “Oh. This game must be dead.”, and then I go play a more popular game that can gaurantee I will see good action. > > > > The fact that we are even having this discussion is a big-time problem. > > > > Part of the baseline experience of buying an online multiplayer game is having servers to play it on. if that’s in question, the whole product is trash. If a game that depends on a community bending over backwards is a thing, I’m out. They need to get their stuff together. Holy crap… > > You must come from the console world, or your very young. That’s the only explanation for your apparent lack of knowledge about how things USED to work in PC gaming. Almost EVERY GAME used rental servers. There was no matchmaking, and things were fine for most of us. Yep, gamers who grew up playing on PC and not console are used to having choices. Its not like COD is on Console where you play exactly what the publisher wants you to play. Example…I would play COD with friends on Console and we wanted to play a game mode or map…too bad it was a limited time event… On PC…you get to choose what you want, its not chosen for you. Thats been a staple of what PC gaming is since the beginning. That’s why most of PC gamer’s who have been around since before consoles are so adamant about certain things regarding servers. Younger Console users growing up with zero choice have been brainwashed to think no choice is the only option, sadly thats all they know. ---
**Author:** ![Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sixclicks/32/103500_2.png) [@Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sixclicks)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/292 "2018-10-05T21:06:00Z")
More choice and private servers was always a big reason I preferred PC gaming. I still prefer PC gaming over using my PS4, but I’d definitely like to have private servers like in the old days back. I wouldn’t say console players are brainwashed though. Consoles have always been about simple plug in and play gaming. Many people prefer simplicity. ---
**Author:** ![Jaskaman](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jaskaman/32/102365_2.png) [@Jaskaman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jaskaman)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/293 "2018-10-06T08:57:00Z")
> [@Metal\_Jockets](#): > > > [@Amphybiouse](#): > > > > > [@Metal\_Jockets](#): > > > > > > A tweet from @dan\_mitre … > > > "“In a couple of weeks (give or take) you’ll get a close look at Maps and Multiplayer features. Community Tools like RSP, Platoons, Squad comms, etc. are things we need to get into more - we’re discussing how to do so and at what level we can detail them out.” > > > > > > [https://twitter.com/dan\_mitre/status/1043213064676335616](https://twitter.com/dan_mitre/status/1043213064676335616) > > > > it’s what, a couple of months before the release date (delayed, mind you) and they’re only **discussing** the possibility of implementing any community features. > > if we pretend for a second that the tweet is true…than what they’re saying is that they’re disgustingly incompetent and have absolutely no idea what they’re doing. and that’s the best case scenario. > > Yes agree.. > My last twitter coversation… > > [https://twitter.com/Metal\_JT/status/1045951934400610304](https://twitter.com/Metal_JT/status/1045951934400610304) > > Clearly it means nothing but I will keep hounding till we get an answer either way. Commented there as well… ---
**Author:** ![orangebionic](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/orangebionic/32/103035_2.png) [@orangebionic](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/orangebionic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/294 "2018-10-06T17:42:00Z")
> [@olT3lo](#): > > > [@Hay-its-dudeman](#): > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > > > > > I think CS:GO does it great, since there’s a clear divide between official servers and community servers. Black Ops 3 also had that clear divide. If they go that route, I’d be A-okay with it. > > > > Honestly, rented servers only help the game if the game needs help. > > > > When I see that the only populated servers in my region are rented ones, I think, “Oh. This game must be dead.”, and then I go play a more popular game that can gaurantee I will see good action. > > > > The fact that we are even having this discussion is a big-time problem. > > > > Part of the baseline experience of buying an online multiplayer game is having servers to play it on. if that’s in question, the whole product is trash. If a game that depends on a community bending over backwards is a thing, I’m out. They need to get their stuff together. Holy crap… > > You must come from the console world, or your very young. That’s the only explanation for your apparent lack of knowledge about how things USED to work in PC gaming. Almost EVERY GAME used rental servers. There was no matchmaking, and things were fine for most of us. stop living in the past. nobody needs boosters and badmins. nobody cares what used to be. ---
**Author:** ![CrashCA](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crashca/32/100942_2.png) [@CrashCA](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CrashCA)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/295 "2018-10-07T00:02:00Z")
Actually, a lot of us do care. ---
**Author:** ![Metal\_Jockets](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/metal_jockets/32/102792_2.png) [@Metal\_Jockets](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Metal_Jockets)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/296 "2018-10-07T01:13:00Z")
> [@orangebionic](#): > > > [@olT3lo](#): > > > > > [@Hay-its-dudeman](#): > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > > > > > > > I think CS:GO does it great, since there’s a clear divide between official servers and community servers. Black Ops 3 also had that clear divide. If they go that route, I’d be A-okay with it. > > > > > > Honestly, rented servers only help the game if the game needs help. > > > > > > When I see that the only populated servers in my region are rented ones, I think, “Oh. This game must be dead.”, and then I go play a more popular game that can gaurantee I will see good action. > > > > > > The fact that we are even having this discussion is a big-time problem. > > > > > > Part of the baseline experience of buying an online multiplayer game is having servers to play it on. if that’s in question, the whole product is trash. If a game that depends on a community bending over backwards is a thing, I’m out. They need to get their stuff together. Holy crap… > > > > You must come from the console world, or your very young. That’s the only explanation for your apparent lack of knowledge about how things USED to work in PC gaming. Almost EVERY GAME used rental servers. There was no matchmaking, and things were fine for most of us. > > stop living in the past. If you feel that by having an overall better gaming experience combined with a greater sence of community spirit “the past” … Well..you can have the future, enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![orangebionic](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/orangebionic/32/103035_2.png) [@orangebionic](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/orangebionic)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 10:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/297 "2018-10-07T10:05:00Z")
> [@Metal\_Jockets](#): > > > [@orangebionic](#): > > > > > [@olT3lo](#): > > > > > > > [@Hay-its-dudeman](#): > > > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > > > > > > > > > I think CS:GO does it great, since there’s a clear divide between official servers and community servers. Black Ops 3 also had that clear divide. If they go that route, I’d be A-okay with it. > > > > > > > > Honestly, rented servers only help the game if the game needs help. > > > > > > > > When I see that the only populated servers in my region are rented ones, I think, “Oh. This game must be dead.”, and then I go play a more popular game that can gaurantee I will see good action. > > > > > > > > The fact that we are even having this discussion is a big-time problem. > > > > > > > > Part of the baseline experience of buying an online multiplayer game is having servers to play it on. if that’s in question, the whole product is trash. If a game that depends on a community bending over backwards is a thing, I’m out. They need to get their stuff together. Holy crap… > > > > > > You must come from the console world, or your very young. That’s the only explanation for your apparent lack of knowledge about how things USED to work in PC gaming. Almost EVERY GAME used rental servers. There was no matchmaking, and things were fine for most of us. > > > > stop living in the past. > > If you feel that by having an overall better gaming experience combined with a greater sence of community spirit “the past” … Well..you can have the future, enjoy. matter of point of view, really. I am not missing community of boosters and admins kicking anyone who gets in their way of steamrolling opposition. At least nowadays everyone is on equal footing. I take the future without snotnose boosters , thnak you very much. ---
**Author:** ![Metal\_Jockets](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/metal_jockets/32/102792_2.png) [@Metal\_Jockets](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Metal_Jockets)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 11:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/298 "2018-10-07T11:31:00Z")
> [@orangebionic](#): > > > [@Metal\_Jockets](#): > > > > > [@orangebionic](#): > > > > > > > [@olT3lo](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Hay-its-dudeman](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@A\_Cool\_Gorilla](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > I do believe that community servers can benefit the longevity of a game, but it really depends. In the case of Battlefield 3, RSP was one of the factors that killed that game for me. Clearly it wasn’t good for players such as myself who preferred vanilla server settings. In that situation, I think it can hurt the game as much as it helps it, which is why I’m against it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think CS:GO does it great, since there’s a clear divide between official servers and community servers. Black Ops 3 also had that clear divide. If they go that route, I’d be A-okay with it. > > > > > > > > > > Honestly, rented servers only help the game if the game needs help. > > > > > > > > > > When I see that the only populated servers in my region are rented ones, I think, “Oh. This game must be dead.”, and then I go play a more popular game that can gaurantee I will see good action. > > > > > > > > > > The fact that we are even having this discussion is a big-time problem. > > > > > > > > > > Part of the baseline experience of buying an online multiplayer game is having servers to play it on. if that’s in question, the whole product is trash. If a game that depends on a community bending over backwards is a thing, I’m out. They need to get their stuff together. Holy crap… > > > > > > > > You must come from the console world, or your very young. That’s the only explanation for your apparent lack of knowledge about how things USED to work in PC gaming. Almost EVERY GAME used rental servers. There was no matchmaking, and things were fine for most of us. > > > > > > stop living in the past. > > > > If you feel that by having an overall better gaming experience combined with a greater sence of community spirit “the past” … Well..you can have the future, enjoy. > > matter of point of view, really. It certainly is.. ---
**Author:** ![Antares65z](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/antares65z/32/100925_2.png) [@Antares65z](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Antares65z)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/299 "2018-10-07T14:39:00Z")
> [@orangebionic](#): > > I take the future without snotnose boosters , thnak you very much. My experience has been that those who complain the most about badmins usually turn out to be toxic players and often cheaters. You sure seem to have an issue with badmins. Why is that? I’ve spent years playing on rented servers and my experience encountering badmins has been minimal. Not saying there aren’t any out there. But if you aren’t causing trouble on the server, its rare to have issues with an admin. Looks like you enjoy the Hellriegel. 95 ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ huh? ---
**Author:** ![orangebionic](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/orangebionic/32/103035_2.png) [@orangebionic](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/orangebionic)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685/300 "2018-10-07T14:52:00Z")
> [@\-Antares65z](#): > > > [@orangebionic](#): > > > > I take the future without snotnose boosters , thnak you very much. > > My experience has been that those who complain the most about badmins usually turn out to be toxic players and often cheaters. You sure seem to have an issue with badmins. Why is that? I’ve spent years playing on rented servers and my experience encountering badmins has been minimal. Not saying there aren’t any out there. But if you aren’t causing trouble on the server, its rare to have issues with an admin. If admins are your mates, clanmates , sure. It a breeze, they will always get your back, kick that pesky pilot, ban that good sniper, yeah, awesome. Most people who just joined and have no friends among those who run the servers are usually at receiving end of admin abuse. Just because i dont get along with boosting bullies, and prefer fair environment for everyone doesnt make me cheater or toxic. Its irrevelant anyway , Dice works to improve that mess, and hopefully we wont have that issue no more, no matter how loud some will scream and stomp their little feet. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685.md?page=14) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/bfv-dedicated-servers/105685.md?page=16)