@Braddock512 Sorry but nice try. We’re talking about changing the number of players needed to start the round and unless it only appears once in the code it will be represented by a variable that will be initialized in once spot. Either way it would require changing in one location. Considering the harm this doing to the rental servers it makes zero sense that this hasn’t been done by now considering it was decided on months ago.
And while yes I have never touched the frostbite engine, nor worked on games I have been a professional programmer since the 90’s and writing my own programs for even longer. I might have just an inkling of whats involved in adding the server functions. Most of the core functionality is already there. Players joining a running server, switching sides etc etc. What is needed is just a gui to target individual players and trigger those already existing functions in whichever way is required. Considering how complex Battlefield itself is your programmers will be able to do things like that in their sleep. Yet six months later what do we have? An single admin kick facility and not much else.
Please do not treat us like idiots. We are not all keyboard warriors looking for absolutely anything to cry about. We can work out for ourselves that something is going on behind the scenes that is causing all this. Telling us the truth would do less harm to your public image than this silence and inaction is.
And do you want to know why we are so passionate about this? Try spending 4,000 odd hours in a pastime over the last 7 years and see how you react when you see it being mangled. By this point in time with BF4 I had about 500 hours into the game. In BF1 I have 75. And half of that was out of habit rather than for enjoyment. I know of over 50 people who I would class as Battlefielders. Not one of them plays this game anymore. Not ONE. If that doesn’t explain to you the depth of feeling over this then you are in the wrong job sir.
It’s an opinion that also happens to be the “majority consensus” among community/clan leaders and those renting servers in an effort to build and maintain community. RSP is on life support and I can’t even fathom why they have not implemented some of the simple to implement features like this already. Sad state of affairs.
For someone who supposedly doesn’t like to ban people, you sure do ‘warn’ people about it a lot. Just so you know, I really do not care if I’m banned from here, so if you feel that my comments (which you claim you agree with in part but still label as ‘non constructive’) warrant that, then you go right ahead and do it. You can also end the discussion by claiming it’s been ‘derailed’ and close the thread too. Also, feel free to frame it as though it was entirely my fault.
6p lower player start has promised to come to RSP on the next patch. That is not the issue here, issue is that it’s an option in CTE patch that makes RSP server showing as Custom-what makes it unusable for the most of the clans because custom servers are nearly impossible to start even with 6p so they try to use official setup.
So at least if 6p start is coming it should be an official setting (means server is not custom if you make it on) or at least they should lower official server starting requirement to 10p and then you can have this 6p option separately.
Also mapvote should not make server custom. Custom server setting is a real problem here, because quick match never joins there, server browser is giving adventage to official server setting etc.
And one last reason is that players does not know what means a custom server, so they will not join there unless it’s strongly supported By game itself-they pick official server setup instead…
To help this there are few ways:
Quickmatch has an option to join custom RSP servers and basicly every RSP server, not only DICE official.
all Dice official servers are removed from the server browser.
But even with those I afraid a random player will just choose official quickmatch instead…
I agree. The “custom” server designation is killing the rented servers for 2 reasons. 1- people don’t know how to use the server browser. 2 - once a server is made custom nobody joins through quick match. Changing player start to 6 should not make it custom.
You’re right, but I’m ok with it. I don’t regard being banned from here as any kind of inconvenience. I just wanted to express my justifiable frustration at the whole RSP situation, and I did that. I was already on my ‘last warning’ before then apparently, although I’m still not entirely sure what for. But that’s the best part of ‘non constructive’, it can be vague and useful like that.
I think they also changed something today (28th) in the server browser, server is impossible to start with DLC map even there has been 9 players in the server 2 hrs. So if this will be the case, there will be more clans dropping servers soon… Unfortunately I do not have time to look what they have changed because Im working. So this lower player starting as an official setting is needed asap… Also I was being kicked for being idle, even server is on preround…
@Braddock512
Today we have had 5 idlers on the server 7 hrs and 9 idlers last 2.5 hrs. No one is joining to our server today, first time ever after we rented server for BF1 12 days ago and we were running DLC maps.
Reason is this:
“NEWS: The #BF1 UI has been updated to add #TheyShallNotPass to quick match: Conquest, Rush, Frontlines, Team Deathmatch and Domination.”
People are using quickmatch now to join to DLC servers, they are not using server browser. Is this fair to RSP servers that quickmatch does not join to them? How we can be able to start server with this system?
Update: Finally got server running -but this can’t be like this. Usually we have 3-5 server seeders and server can’t be started with that count anymore with new DLC…
We had a start last night of 20 players so the timer restarted the game. 1 public person dropped so we ended in a loop where we couldnt play and public kept coming on for 30 secs and then leaving so it kept going up to 19 players then down to 15 players with nothing happeing. A stupid flawed system that I still cant understand why someone would think was good as opposed to the BF4 starts. It boggles my mind to think that some people must have had lots of meetings about this and decided this was the way to go.
Our server is now stuck in 9 players, waiting for players, no one can move -why? WE got 20 ppl at server, 3 of them left after actual round started, counter stopped for 1 minutes and rest of the people left. So same happened to us now. How to stop this counter? How to set it back to preround?
We have been stuck like this now 3 hrs.
Update: after counter being stuck 4 hrs, we managed to start the server.
with the actual player count droping, it is going to continue to get harder and harder to get servers going. I hope everyone likes playing on Vanilla DICE servers normal mode conquest because soon that will be all that can get going.
Boy I hope this RSP fix comes during battlefest. It sure would be nice to play on our server which we’ve been paying for sence release. So ya 6 months and only had it going maybe 5 times. We are a big clan but we also play two other games with servers too. Please this is something that needs to be done yesterday.
I think that once the pacth arrived with the modification of launch of the server to 6 players, the servers rent will come back in strength, I just ask a classic server (no 3D spotting, 100% health, 100 Damage no regen life etc … .) Private servers will reborn
Almost feel bad for some people at DICE because I know they worked hard at this game, a game we used to have fun playing. But people in charge of RSP totally screwed it up for everybody else. It’s a shame really.
Dude, its not what you posted but how you worded it. God knows I’ve posted some of the most negative feedback known to man but ya have to do it with at least a modicum of civility. Sometimes the frustration gets the better of me but honestly jumping on Braddocks back isn’t going to do anything other than alienate one of the few avenues info from here gets to the devs.
Im waiting for the lower player count to rent one for my experimental mode server yet it will def flag as custom so i have no idea if it will even fly without a huge boost from the community as i doubt you could find it in the server browser.
Just have to know how to use the browser, many team who had a classic mod server: bammboo bar, flummelbude, deadfriends, etc …
Have returned to normal mode because of the number of players of 20 to start the server, once the patch arrived with the number of 6 players, the servers will start faster i hope crossed fingers ^^
