Im Well aware of this and thinks its a stupid design choice as well. I’m all for the removal of 3x scope glint on sniper rifles especially considering that medics bolt action carabine don’t suffer this. what I find stupid is that the guy is asking for 3x on iron sights and then goes and calls people using proper 3x scopes “noobs”. so in conclusion all the positives that a 3x provides he wants as well, he just doesn’t want the negatives. and then he goes and calls people noobs that actually chose to accept the negative effects and challenge themselves more? this is simply ridiculous…
Instead of a buff I would call that an major injustice being dealt with.
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As said by others, the minimum damage is still lousy and meant for the BFV alpha attrition levels. Most people agree that OHK chest is too much but the max- min bodyshot damage should be closer to the 90s or the 80s than the 60s
In past games, and I’m thinking bf2 here, wasn’t min damage related to the guns rof. So a the semi auto was like 60 due to being able to quickly follow up with a second shot, but the slow rof 50cal was 90
With the current health attrition getting tagged by a sniper would mean dying 20 seconds later because YOU ARE SPOTTED and you get forced into a fight with low HP
That is rarely the case for me. I just take cover until it the spotting goes away. Very few people stick around an exposed place after the first shot.
The SLRs do similar damage and also apply the spotting. There is not enough gain for what is lost for using a BA rifle.
That’s the purpose of the med pack to use in these circumstances. Because med packs are basically 10 a penny in game, we (or I) tend to use them all the time to top up my health even if it’s at say 80 or 90, because I know I will either get killed or come across or get given more med packs very quickly. Where as I assume the intention way back when, was to use them more strategically.
It means at least 10 seconds of not being able to take any gunfight
And yeah you do get run down by 1/2/3 randoms when you get tagged and you’re the only thing people see on the minimap
ninjapenquinuk said:
With the proposed buff 80 even 90 HP wouldn’t matter, you would still get OS in the body by the sniper
That’s why things cannot be changed in isolation, and one reason why BFV is in such a mess. The game was originally designed with one vision in mind, only for that vision to change, but only partial changes to mechanics, and weapons/vehicles were made.
You are right, with how easy sniping is in BFV (headshots aren’t easy but hitting an enemy is) having 80 or 90 min damage is dumb and will result in many, many ohk with body shots. In previous games sniping was a lot harder, so having some guns with such a high min damage was fine as it wasn’t so easy to hit someone even in the torso.
3x irons would actually be worse than a 3x scope, especially with the sights on most of the BAs, massive, blocky front posts that rise no more than a few mils above a body made cartoonishly massive by poor perspective positioning.
The only downside to using a 3x scope is currently purely the glint for Scout
I will give you that it is easier to hit a completelystationary target in BFV than other titles.
But at the same times it is harder than ever to hit an evasive target in BFV with that crazy strafing. So it cancels out.
They need some more versatility buff pistol carbines and maybe AT rifle dmg vs tanks slightly. Gadget slot 2 sucks for recon this game suffers a lot with boring to nearly useless gadgets if you’re not playing assault class.
It was actually more accurate under suppression if recoil was not a factor, since it had its base spread multiplied by 0.5 instead of the 1.5 penalty everything else got. At least that’s how I remember it being explained when people pulled things for you.
Are you kidding? I’m not talking about the Americans on D-Day… The Karabiner 98k was the standard issue weapon for the Wehrmacht. According to wiki 14,000,000 were produce and used by German soldiers so you clearly don’t know your WW2 history.
BARs are now “fine”, they’re not any better than previous games, in fact BARs in BFV is the worst ever in the history of this franchise ever since the Frostbite enegine era.
The overall movement of BARs is far too slow for a game that has a fast pace.
Bullet velocity after the buff for BARs just bring them as fast as an MMG (M1919A2 also has 900ms bullet velocity with spec upgrade). And that come with lower magnefication scopes, even BF1 has 10x scope.
If you’re an aggressive BARs player you should know by now that Medic carbines are far better.
And people with SLRs/SARs should hide from you at long range instead of trying to pick you up, they should be outranged.
Not only Snipers benefit from no scope sway and random bullet deviation so it’s not that easy to hit people abusing the ADAD movement, since the head movement and soldier acceleration speed are ridiculous.
I don’t mind the damage model, you shouldn’t OHK torso anyway with anygun (excluding Anti-Tank rifles).
So in the end, BARs are no good at close range because Medic carbines are much better, they’re somewhat usable at mid range against other rifles and just fine at long range against SLRs/SARs/Medic Carbine.
If you find it’s enjoyable, sure it is after the lastest buff, but it’s not excel at anything and you’ll find yourself better with other guns.
Recon in BFV also has the worst gadgets ever and people keep complaining about how broken the Aerial flare is. Meanwhile i would trade anything for Mortar strike and sensor ball/BF1’s ground flare.
