# Buff the Lee Enfield? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 31, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808 "2019-03-31T20:44:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/1 "2019-03-31T20:44:00Z")
Is it too much to ask to buff the Lee Enfield, preferably in terms of bullet velocity. It’s currently, IMO, not just the worst recon weapon, but the worst gun, in the entire game. ---
**Author:** ![GP-Caliber](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e19adc/32.png) [@GP-Caliber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GP-Caliber)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/2 "2019-03-31T20:49:00Z")
I think they can adjust the velocity but they have to adjust the velocity for all the sniper rifles. and no its not the worst recon gun, that is one of the slr’s or the kar98. ---
**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/3 "2019-03-31T20:49:00Z")
Yeh they should buff the velocities of all the sniper rifles to their real life values ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_X2345](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Dr\_X2345](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dr_X2345)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/4 "2019-03-31T21:11:00Z")
Bullet velocities need increasing on the snipers, for sure. I don’t think the Enfield is too underpowered though - obviously it’s not as good at range as, say, the Krag-Jørgenson or the Gewehr M95, but stick a 3x scope on it and you can be a little more aggressive with its relatively quick RoF. You can even leave it on iron sights and play at close range, but you’re likely going to be at a disadvantage so don’t expect to do quite as well as other classes at that range. ---
**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/5 "2019-03-31T21:19:00Z")
> [@Dr\_X2345](#): > > Bullet velocities need increasing on the snipers, for sure. > I don’t think the Enfield is too underpowered though - obviously it’s not as good at range as, say, the Krag-Jørgenson or the Gewehr M95, but stick a 3x scope on it and you can be a little more aggressive with its relatively quick RoF. You can even leave it on iron sights and play at close range, but you’re likely going to be at a disadvantage so don’t expect to do quite as well as other classes at that range. I get why the Enfield has such a particularly low bullet velocity but 400m/S is too harsh. ---
**Author:** ![Gravlar\_SN9](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Gravlar\_SN9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Gravlar_SN9)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/6 "2019-03-31T21:25:00Z")
> [@GP-Caliber](#): > > I think they can adjust the velocity but they have to adjust the velocity for all the sniper rifles. and no its not the worst recon gun, that is one of the slr’s or the kar98. SLRs I understand, but the Kar98 is a headshot machine. ---
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/7 "2019-03-31T21:35:00Z")
> [@Dr\_X2345](#): > > Bullet velocities need increasing on the snipers, for sure. > I don’t think the Enfield is too underpowered though - obviously it’s not as good at range as, say, the Krag-Jørgenson or the Gewehr M95, but stick a 3x scope on it and you can be a little more aggressive with its relatively quick RoF. You can even leave it on iron sights and play at close range, but you’re likely going to be at a disadvantage so don’t expect to do quite as well as other classes at that range. 3x I use Ross and M95. I use 6x on Krag and 98k, because they have the highest bullet velocity. Honestly, the I can only use irons of the Enfield becuase the other sights are too strong for it, people can just ADAD spam to dodge it’s bullets at scoped ranges, even 3x. I’m fine with every other BA rifle, except the Enfield. I doubt it’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![von\_Campenstein](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/von_campenstein/32/101003_2.png) [@von\_Campenstein](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/von_Campenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/8 "2019-03-31T22:32:00Z")
Bullet velocity or rate of fire. ---
**Author:** ![Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sixclicks/32/103500_2.png) [@Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sixclicks)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/9 "2019-03-31T22:35:00Z")
The velocities of all bolt actions should be increased. It’s absolutely pathetic that the Lee-Enfield in particular has a velocity stat equal to that of an SMG that fires a 9mm round. Realistic velocities is one thing BF1 definitely got right. I also personally think bolt actions should do more damage to the chest at close ranges. ---
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/10 "2019-03-31T22:37:00Z")
> [@Sixclicks](#): > > The velocities of all bolt actions should be increased. It’s absolutely pathetic that the Lee-Enfield in particular has a velocity stat equal to that of an SMG that fires a 9mm round. Realistic velocities is one thing BF1 definitely got right. > > I also personally think bolt actions should do more damage to the chest at close ranges. The M95 does, and I think that’s why it’s one of my favourite BA rifles. 80 damage I think it is isn’t bad when attrition gets thrown into the mix. ---
**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/11 "2019-03-31T22:39:00Z")
They need to fix the bolt animation. The Enfield was designed so the user wouldn’t have to move the gun away from his face to work the bolt. It was designed to allow the user to maintain vision on the sights when working the bolt. This is what allowed the gun to be fired so quickly and accurately. The animation they have in game negates one of the biggest advantages the Enfield had over other rifles. I would also love if they increased hipfire accuracy for all bolt action rifles when using iron sights so that they’re in line with every other gun in the game. If not that then replace zeroing with bipod. The Enfield rate of fire and the hip fire accuracy when using bipod would also improve its viability significantly. ---
**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/12 "2019-04-01T01:28:00Z")
> [@Noodlesocks](#): > > They need to fix the bolt animation. The Enfield was designed so the user wouldn’t have to move the gun away from his face to work the bolt. It was designed to allow the user to maintain vision on the sights when working the bolt. This is what allowed the gun to be fired so quickly and accurately. The animation they have in game negates one of the biggest advantages the Enfield had over other rifles. > > I would also love if they increased hipfire accuracy for all bolt action rifles when using iron sights so that they’re in line with every other gun in the game. > > If not that then replace zeroing with bipod. The Enfield rate of fire and the hip fire accuracy when using bipod would also improve its viability significantly. The reason all of the bolt-actions need to be unscoped to load the next round is because too many people complain about getting killed by one of the dozen aiming at them at any one time Tbh they should’ve made the Enfield the prestige/lvl 20 unlock and done it justice. Instead, they made it the starting recon gun for no good reason and made it fittingly bad. It’s ridiculous I’m conflicted about improving the hip fire accuracy of the bolt-actions too much as then we might end up with people getting no scope headshots with them. That’d let them stand a chance at close range but it’d look ridiculous ---
**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/13 "2019-04-01T02:02:00Z")
> [@y\_j\_es\_i](#): > > > [@Noodlesocks](#): > > > > They need to fix the bolt animation. The Enfield was designed so the user wouldn’t have to move the gun away from his face to work the bolt. It was designed to allow the user to maintain vision on the sights when working the bolt. This is what allowed the gun to be fired so quickly and accurately. The animation they have in game negates one of the biggest advantages the Enfield had over other rifles. > > > > I would also love if they increased hipfire accuracy for all bolt action rifles when using iron sights so that they’re in line with every other gun in the game. > > > > If not that then replace zeroing with bipod. The Enfield rate of fire and the hip fire accuracy when using bipod would also improve its viability significantly. > > The reason all of the bolt-actions need to be unscoped to load the next round is because too many people complain about getting killed by one of the dozen aiming at them at any one time > > Tbh they should’ve made the Enfield the prestige/lvl 20 unlock and done it justice. Instead, they made it the starting recon gun for no good reason and made it fittingly bad. It’s ridiculous > > I’m conflicted about improving the hip fire accuracy of the bolt-actions too much as then we might end up with people getting no scope headshots with them. That’d let them stand a chance at close range but it’d look ridiculous When using iron sights, you don’t have to toggle ADS. Headshotting with a bolt action rifle with hip fire would be no more ridiculous than hip firing with a bren gun or G43. Take off the scope and it’s just a regular gun. It should behave as such. ---
**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/14 "2019-04-01T02:30:00Z")
> [@Noodlesocks](#): > > > [@y\_j\_es\_i](#): > > > > > [@Noodlesocks](#): > > > > > > They need to fix the bolt animation. The Enfield was designed so the user wouldn’t have to move the gun away from his face to work the bolt. It was designed to allow the user to maintain vision on the sights when working the bolt. This is what allowed the gun to be fired so quickly and accurately. The animation they have in game negates one of the biggest advantages the Enfield had over other rifles. > > > > > > I would also love if they increased hipfire accuracy for all bolt action rifles when using iron sights so that they’re in line with every other gun in the game. > > > > > > If not that then replace zeroing with bipod. The Enfield rate of fire and the hip fire accuracy when using bipod would also improve its viability significantly. > > > > The reason all of the bolt-actions need to be unscoped to load the next round is because too many people complain about getting killed by one of the dozen aiming at them at any one time > > > > Tbh they should’ve made the Enfield the prestige/lvl 20 unlock and done it justice. Instead, they made it the starting recon gun for no good reason and made it fittingly bad. It’s ridiculous > > > > I’m conflicted about improving the hip fire accuracy of the bolt-actions too much as then we might end up with people getting no scope headshots with them. That’d let them stand a chance at close range but it’d look ridiculous > > When using iron sights, you don’t have to toggle ADS. > > Headshotting with a bolt action rifle with hip fire would be no more ridiculous than hip firing with a bren gun or G43. Take off the scope and it’s just a regular gun. It should behave as such. I know, I meant for when you’re using scopes. I’m pretty sure you could reload Enfields without moving your eye from the scope The difference is that the bolt-actions are OhK to the head. I’m sure that even with a reticle the size of the STG’s noscope headshotting would be hard but people will still complain about getting OHKed from a metre away ---
**Author:** ![GP-Caliber](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e19adc/32.png) [@GP-Caliber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GP-Caliber)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 7:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/15 "2019-04-01T07:45:00Z")
> [@Gravlar\_SN9](#): > > > [@GP-Caliber](#): > > > > I think they can adjust the velocity but they have to adjust the velocity for all the sniper rifles. and no its not the worst recon gun, that is one of the slr’s or the kar98. > > SLRs I understand, but the Kar98 is a headshot machine. for me it is the worst bolt action for aggressive. the rof is to slow and the krag has the same velocity and a faster rof and also 1 extra bullet. This imo makes the kar98 the worst bolt action. ---
**Author:** ![xKusagamix](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xkusagamix/32/104118_2.png) [@xKusagamix](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xKusagamix)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/16 "2019-04-01T08:01:00Z")
Bullet velocity should be buffed for all Recon’s primary weapons, having SARs that have faster bullet velocity than Recon’s BARs is just dumb. ---
**Author:** ![GP-Caliber](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e19adc/32.png) [@GP-Caliber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GP-Caliber)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/17 "2019-04-01T08:25:00Z")
> [@xKusagamix](#): > > Bullet velocity should be buffed for all Recon’s primary weapons, having SARs that have faster bullet velocity than Recon’s BARs is just dumb. this is true. ---
**Author:** ![GP-Caliber](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e19adc/32.png) [@GP-Caliber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GP-Caliber)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/18 "2019-04-01T08:26:00Z")
> [@y\_j\_es\_i](#): > > > [@Dr\_X2345](#): > > > > Bullet velocities need increasing on the snipers, for sure. > > I don’t think the Enfield is too underpowered though - obviously it’s not as good at range as, say, the Krag-Jørgenson or the Gewehr M95, but stick a 3x scope on it and you can be a little more aggressive with its relatively quick RoF. You can even leave it on iron sights and play at close range, but you’re likely going to be at a disadvantage so don’t expect to do quite as well as other classes at that range. > > I get why the Enfield has such a particularly low bullet velocity but 400m/S is too harsh. isnt it 500? ---
**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 10:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/19 "2019-04-01T10:23:00Z")
> [@GP-Caliber](#): > > > [@y\_j\_es\_i](#): > > > > > [@Dr\_X2345](#): > > > > > > Bullet velocities need increasing on the snipers, for sure. > > > I don’t think the Enfield is too underpowered though - obviously it’s not as good at range as, say, the Krag-Jørgenson or the Gewehr M95, but stick a 3x scope on it and you can be a little more aggressive with its relatively quick RoF. You can even leave it on iron sights and play at close range, but you’re likely going to be at a disadvantage so don’t expect to do quite as well as other classes at that range. > > > > I get why the Enfield has such a particularly low bullet velocity but 400m/S is too harsh. > > isnt it 500? Could be. It’s equal to an SMG or two either way ---
**Author:** ![crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crabman169/32/101567_2.png) [@crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crabman169)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808/20 "2019-04-01T11:56:00Z")
Should have higher minimum damage model and buffing of its muzzle velocity would be nice. Shame recon class got such a hammer cos assault plebs cried that they stopped their little montages [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/buff-the-lee-enfield/106808.md?page=2)