# Can we start a discussion on what people would hope to see in bf4?

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 30, 2013, 3:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765 "2013-03-30T03:56:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![kegonomics](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ecb155/32.png) [@kegonomics](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kegonomics)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 9:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/22 "2013-03-31T09:00:03Z")

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Exactly. I play on xbox and without some sort of capture device/computer, you’re not recording anything lol. I would love exactly what you are talking about; like what Halo and CoD have.

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**Author:** ![1leggeddog](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/bbce88/32.png) [@1leggeddog](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/1leggeddog)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/26 "2013-03-31T13:46:24Z")

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Bad company’s single player was forgetable, but your crew were funny. It’s really the only thing that stuck with me. Ask me any other names or the plot and i don’t remember any of em.

You are right about mod support because of licensing, but that is a legal matter and it can be resolved by giving individual licenses to the users and a big ass EULA to click “I agree” at the end.

So yes, it’s currently the problem, but it’s not the final nail in the coffin. There are ways around it.

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**Author:** ![lostdollar](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@lostdollar](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lostdollar)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/27 "2013-03-31T15:28:11Z")

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offline MP with bots

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**Author:** ![Atroxide](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/dbc845/32.png) [@Atroxide](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Atroxide)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/31 "2013-03-31T21:16:28Z")

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Even though you are talking about single player, just making sure you realize BC2 multiplayer doesn’t work anymore due to EA shutting down the server.

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**Author:** ![Lovebugeater](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/71c47a/32.png) [@Lovebugeater](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lovebugeater)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/33 "2013-04-01T00:01:18Z")

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Loads more vehicles.

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**Author:** ![ihaxphysics](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e36b37/32.png) [@ihaxphysics](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ihaxphysics)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/34 "2013-04-01T01:04:00Z")

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Titan mode on 2142 was immensely amazing, and I’m pretty sure its a plausible thing that they could pull off with the whole moving carriers.

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**Author:** ![redditmonkey85](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@redditmonkey85](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/redditmonkey85)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/35 "2013-04-01T01:54:02Z")

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Biggest thing for the that has bugged me with bf3 and any other FPS is the gun point being the top of enemies heads. When in MP only a inch of the head is exposed from cover. Forcing you to try and hit a small little target instead of a head, rifle and so on.

I hope that explains it enough, i just hate seeing enemies and only 3 inchs of the top of their head is exposed and they are shooting me… Can’t they make it so you have to expose your gun to fire?

The main thing I want to see changed.

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**Author:** ![ChillyWillster](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ChillyWillster](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChillyWillster)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/36 "2013-04-01T03:19:19Z")

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It’s usually what the enemy AI does in single player.

It is also a “tradition” in MP games where head point is always visible LoS.

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**Author:** ![ClavicusNitrus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/73ab20/32.png) [@ClavicusNitrus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ClavicusNitrus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/38 "2013-04-01T12:38:15Z")

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But… But I played bad company 2 multiplayer last week

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**Author:** ![Atroxide](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/dbc845/32.png) [@Atroxide](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Atroxide)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/39 "2013-04-01T13:35:01Z")

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Really? It hasn’t worked for me and I tried several times throughout a day a couple weeks ago. Was on PC right?

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**Author:** ![TTRedRaider27](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@TTRedRaider27](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TTRedRaider27)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/40 "2013-04-01T15:06:36Z")

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I would really love to see handgun and bullet customization along with further gun component customizations

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**Author:** ![TTRedRaider27](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@TTRedRaider27](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TTRedRaider27)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/41 "2013-04-01T15:09:14Z")

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I don’t think it’s quite that simple

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**Author:** ![7SEALS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/7/e0b2c6/32.png) [@7SEALS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/7SEALS)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/42 "2013-04-01T15:37:05Z")

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Why don’t console players just bite the bullet and put a PC together? Don’t even give me the excuse that you don’t have enough money. If you are going to drop $400+ on a next gen console, then you can afford to put a decent rig together. If you want to stick to controllers, then you can still use those… I just can’t figure out why people want to limit themselves with a console?

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**Author:** ![1leggeddog](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/bbce88/32.png) [@1leggeddog](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/1leggeddog)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/43 "2013-04-01T15:38:00Z")

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Actually, it kinda is.

The devs themselves have stated in interviews that they were not against mod tools.

So the will is there, but not the means. Of course, they can say it’s complicated because of a miriad of programs and what not but that has never stopped any modders before.

So all that’s left are the legal issues

If you meant that it’s not quite that simple because i said “click i agree”, yes you are right. It was a figure of speech.

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**Author:** ![TTRedRaider27](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@TTRedRaider27](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TTRedRaider27)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/44 "2013-04-01T15:54:34Z")

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As in legal and licensing matters with all the software they use. It’s not feasible.

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**Author:** ![KwanLi](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KwanLi](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KwanLi)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/45 "2013-04-01T18:12:23Z")

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Because we want to play on our friends…and they’re on consoles.

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**Author:** ![7SEALS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/7/e0b2c6/32.png) [@7SEALS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/7SEALS)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/46 "2013-04-01T18:16:58Z")

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OK you and your friends can save the money from the next gen console, and build a PC instead

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**Author:** ![tinnedwaffles](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tinnedwaffles](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tinnedwaffles)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/47 "2013-04-01T20:18:23Z")

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I can’t imagine a single situation where you could be dragged out of harms way where your medic wouldn’t get killed but you accepting a normal revive would…?

A better mechanic would be a slow revive. ie you’re limping/crawling and gradually have to heal back up, and dragging someone is just faster than crawling.

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**Author:** ![DrPepqer](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@DrPepqer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DrPepqer)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/48 "2013-04-01T22:49:32Z")

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had some awesome fights against 200 bots in BF2. good practice. would love to see this feature.

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**Author:** ![DrPepqer](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@DrPepqer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DrPepqer)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/can-we-start-a-discussion-on-what-people-would-hope-to-see-in-bf4/109765/49 "2013-04-01T23:05:51Z")

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for choppers:

- improve chopper movement. it really sucks in bf3. they cant roll and are way too slow. no chance against good jets etc. it was much better in bf2.

- fix the tv missile bugs.

- option to spawn the same choppers/jets for both teams. viper vs. viper dogfights would be great and more balanced than havoc vs. viper

- 2 or more attack helicopters per team (at least as a server option) for some funny dogfights.

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