# Cause of deaths in this game. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 13, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111 "2019-07-13T20:51:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MOSSAD-RECRUITER](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mossad-recruiter/32/106971_2.png) [@MOSSAD-RECRUITER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MOSSAD-RECRUITER)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/1 "2019-07-13T20:51:00Z")
- 30% bugs - 20% more bugs - 20% cheaters - 20% more cheaters - 8% invisible players - 1% kamikaze - 1% skill ---
**Author:** ![Snookray83](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Snookray83](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Snookray83)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/2 "2019-07-13T21:03:00Z")
90% prone camper. ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/3 "2019-07-13T21:10:00Z")
> [@Snookray83](#): > > 90% prone camper. The amount of Prone players in this game is staggering and the visibility is even worse. This is definitely Pronefield 5. ---
**Author:** ![NLBartmaN](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/f9ae1b/32.png) [@NLBartmaN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NLBartmaN)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/4 "2019-07-13T21:24:00Z")
95% high pinger 1 frame deaths … ---
**Author:** ![tempo\_rarity](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@tempo\_rarity](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tempo_rarity)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/5 "2019-07-13T21:54:00Z")
Because ‘sense-less’ running about was so popular in WWII , soldiers often disobeyed their CO’s and plopped themselves down in comfy spots to (A) read a letter sent from back home (B) eat a snack sent from same home and (C) oh yeah get their gun ready just in case they have to actually fire it , 'cos , you never know when a fool will run up on ya . . . :lol: . . . Just now in Firestorm , an explosive chased me out of my ride and I fled on foot , up over a slight ridge and then , on the next ridge - there’s a bush! Plop! Prone In A Bush! ‘I’m’ the problem though , when the chaser tops that first ridge I was just on and stands still , right there in my sights , LOOKING FOR ME . (actually , he killed me , but I’d already bagged a curiosity-seeker attracted by our commotion , who also stood still whilst looking for me) The difference? One debated himself too long over the thought ‘He Might Be In That Bush’ , and the other simply threw an Incendiary to squash all such debate . Most plausible scenario then - I killed a CoD’r , just before getting killed by a BF’r . . . I’m actually pleased if a Player wishes to call it Pronefield 5 - I think : good for them! It means they’re recognizing a common threat and tactic in the Game and MAY adapt to it . . . or not . But , congrats anyway 😄 ---
**Author:** ![KMAsterisk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kmasterisk/32/102546_2.png) [@KMAsterisk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KMAsterisk)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/6 "2019-07-14T00:28:00Z")
Real cause of deaths in this game. 15% You’re exposed and shot by multiple people despite you swearing you’re behind cover. 5% Prone/corner camper/random place aka being tactical 5% You duck behind cover but the client/server can’t maintain all the variations. 25% Player was better than you. I know, I can’t believe it either… but it happens 50% Despite all these claims about lag/hacks/hit registration/divine intervention…maybe the aim wasn’t as good as proclaimed. Edit: Not saying all claims are not credible, that would be foolish. It’s a shame this game generally does feel better for me playing West Coast (80 ping) versus (10 ping) on East Coast, depending on the number of high/variable pings in the match. ---
**Author:** ![full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/full951/32/102018_2.png) [@full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/full951)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/7 "2019-07-14T00:36:00Z")
What about a percentage for networking not going in your favor? ---
**Author:** ![NLBartmaN](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/f9ae1b/32.png) [@NLBartmaN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NLBartmaN)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/8 "2019-07-14T00:43:00Z")
> [@KMAsterisk](#): > > Real cause of deaths in this game. > > 15% You’re exposed and shot by multiple people despite you swearing you’re behind cover. > > 5% Prone/corner camper/random place aka being tactical > > 5% You duck behind cover but the client/server can’t maintain all the variations. > > 25% Player was better than you. I know, I can’t believe it either… but it happens > > 50% Despite all these claims about lag/hacks/hit registration/divine intervention…maybe the aim wasn’t as good as proclaimed. > > Edit: Not saying all claims are not credible, that would be foolish. It’s a shame this game generally does feel better for me playing West Coast (80 ping) versus (10 ping) on East Coast, depending on the number of high/variable pings in the match. You contradict yourself with the last part… ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/9 "2019-07-14T00:44:00Z")
70% of my deaths are WTF deaths. Legit WTF just happened deaths or How? The game is Broken at the Core. ---
**Author:** ![MintySSD](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mintyssd/32/106953_2.png) [@MintySSD](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MintySSD)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/10 "2019-07-14T00:50:00Z")
70% Communication..your squad is either full of rambos or all the squads on your side storm one objective whilst you lose the others. Squad leaders should be able to communicate ---
**Author:** ![Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Matty101yttam)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/11 "2019-07-14T01:07:00Z")
40% legit deaths 20% spawn deaths(within 5 steps) 10% team mates doing the worst things at the worst possible times 10% lagged shots 20% game making things hard This last one needs some clarification, this includes things like: -running circles around people spamming the revive button trying to revive them,picking up other weapons while reviving, opening doors or getting into vehicles instead of reviving. -trying to peak a corner and the auto lean system keeps snapping when your to close to cover -small foot snags like rocks etc. (i hate this so much…since bf4 this has become so so bad). stopping movement -trying to vault and needing a run up first, or having objects in game that are ever so slightly off climbing height -bipod not working when needed / bipod working when not needed. -med and ammo pouches cancelling reloads when you think the reload was completed ---
**Author:** ![ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ninjapenquinuk)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/12 "2019-07-14T08:27:00Z")
Would be good to have stats that not only showered your kills per weapon but also how many times you were killed by it. ---
**Author:** ![StealthAria](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@StealthAria](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StealthAria)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/13 "2019-07-14T08:38:00Z")
> [@ninjapenquinuk](#): > > Would be good to have stats that not only showered your kills per weapon but also how many times you were killed by it. That would just show that 75% of all deaths come from a single class because it’s absurdly OP but no one wants to actually admit it and have instead turned it into a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Player\_rs688is9](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Player\_rs688is9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Player_rs688is9)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 9:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/14 "2019-07-14T09:17:00Z")
Everyone just crawling around, worst playerbase ever. ---
**Author:** ![KMAsterisk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kmasterisk/32/102546_2.png) [@KMAsterisk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KMAsterisk)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/15 "2019-07-14T11:19:00Z")
> [@NLBartmaN](#): > > [ > You contradict yourself with the last part… Not really. IMO the number of claims that lag comp played a part in a death versus it actually being the case is exaggerated. It happens, sure. ---
**Author:** ![NLBartmaN](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/f9ae1b/32.png) [@NLBartmaN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NLBartmaN)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/16 "2019-07-14T12:22:00Z")
> [@KMAsterisk](#): > > > [@NLBartmaN](#): > > > > [ > > You contradict yourself with the last part… > > Not really. IMO the number of claims that lag comp played a part in a death versus it actually being the case is exaggerated. It happens, sure. Not even close to exaggerated: the difference between playing on a small gamemodes with only under 40ms stable ping players and 64 players with 2 high ping or unstable players is insane. Things like footsteps are instantly gone for 90%, players teleporting while you ADS, dying behind cover, dying before the player is even visible, 50% or more bullits you shoot into a player just not registering while being instant killed when that player turns around, etc All these things are directly linked to poor netcode, poor servers and high/unstable ping players and cause you to die when you should not. ---
**Author:** ![Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trokey66/32/103889_2.png) [@Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Trokey66)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/17 "2019-07-14T12:33:00Z")
> [@NLBartmaN](#): > > KMAsterisk said: > > NLBartmaN wrote: » > [ > > You contradict yourself with the last part… > > Not really. IMO the number of claims that lag comp played a part in a death versus it actually being the case is exaggerated. It happens, sure. > > Not even close to exaggerated: the difference between playing on a small gamemodes with only under 40ms stable ping players and 64 players with 2 high ping or unstable players is insane. > > Things like footsteps are instantly gone for 90%, players teleporting while you ADS, dying behind cover, dying before the player is even visible, 50% or more bullits you shoot into a player just not registering while being instant killed when that player turns around, etc > > All these things are directly linked to poor netcode, poor servers and high/unstable ping players and cause you to die when you should not. And 76.4% of all stats on here are made up! People have a hard time if simply admitting that they are just not as good as they think they are. Fortunately, I don’t suffer from such delusions as I know I’m a bit crap so I can accept that issues are often exaggerated. ---
**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/18 "2019-07-14T12:50:00Z")
There is not much I can do when I’m one shotted by a sten or other weapon for that matter. And it’s infuriating to know, that sten user wasted almost an entire clip on me. ---
**Author:** ![NLBartmaN](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/f9ae1b/32.png) [@NLBartmaN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NLBartmaN)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/19 "2019-07-14T12:57:00Z")
> [@Trokey66](#): > > And 76.4% of all stats on here are made up! > > People have a hard time if simply admitting that they are just not as good as they think they are. > > Fortunately, I don’t suffer from such delusions as I know I’m a bit crap so I can accept that issues are often exaggerated. It is clear they are made up, since Dice/EA don’t share data or change things to try to make it better (like a ping limit, lowering compensation for poor connections or removal of crap that needs client-server traffic but is less important for a good gaming experience …) When RSP arrives we can try it for ourself: I will instantly make a server and kick everyone with above 40ms or unstable ping and lets see how the game plays then. But with the numbers that are available it was already calculated on this forum 60ms difference is the max for “good” and fair game experience and little stress on the servers and there are far too much players with higher than 60ms ping on EU PS4 servers, those are facts. Also tests done by content creaters showed the BF V “netcode” is crap compared to BF1 and those tests were done on PC, with the statement that it must be an even more terrible experience to play on console with the lower tick rate and lower FPS and the current game mecahnics (too fast TTK, insane movement speed, ADAD spam, etc) But you can give it a try yourself: start an OOR game and see what happens, you will proably be a lot less crap, so you can have the illusion you are actually not crap … like all the high and unstable ping players have now. ---
**Author:** ![Shadow0nTh3Sun](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Shadow0nTh3Sun](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Shadow0nTh3Sun)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cause-of-deaths-in-this-game/254111/20 "2019-07-14T16:04:00Z")
> [@MintySSD](#): > > 70% Communication..your squad is either full of rambos or all the squads on your side storm one objective whilst you lose the others. > > Squad leaders should be able to communicate That’s conquest in a nutshell. Its for the masses. Try other modes for better teamplay and a generally better pool of players who are interested in winning matches.