# Complete Revert of 5.2 isn't happening. Thanks DICE for seeing Reason. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 10, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443 "2019-12-10T03:38:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 10:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/121 "2020-01-03T10:44:00Z")
> [@TheNoobPolice](#): > > It matters not, it’s not what was wrong with the game anyway. Let’s take a look at what actually is making people leave the game. > > maps with no cover and grainy visuals > Insufficient player clarity/visibility in firefights > bad spread to recoil / recoil pattern / zero depth gunplay. > uninspiring audio > irritating damage taken / flinch effect > team balance > anti-cheat or lack of > vehicle balance > spawn system > barebones content > awful game mode implementation > poor weapon/class balance > air vs infantry balance > too many unnecessary animations everywhere > attrition nonsense > bad performance > netcode and instadeath > and bugs…everywhere. > > So I don’t care whether the guns are balanced around 3 BTK or 15 BTK, it’s not like it’s going to make the game fun. This guy knows the sad truth. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 10:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/122 "2020-01-03T10:46:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@SirBobdk](#): > > > > [»] > > (Quote) > > Not sure i understand. Its now easier for those who actually wants to more and harder for those who wants to camp and get easy kills. Why is that a bad thing. > > There’s a difference between someone wanting to and being able to move in general, and complete scrubs now being able to safely pass through 100+ meters of open space with no cover because it takes 10+ shots to kill them whereas before hand it took half that, and they can literally abuse this game’s movement speed and lack of directional momentum to run in zig zag patters all the way to cover - which makes actually landing 10 shots at range before running out of ammo statistically impossible for most players. > > I mean come on, it’s not as if people were literally incapable of moving before this update because they’d just get killed. It’s just before this update, complete scrubs got punished for wandering out in the open blindly and then blamed gunplay being too fast instead of blaming their own brainless behavior. I didnt have a problem with the TTK. It took some time to get used to it, but then it just felt like BF3. If I remember correctly If i could choose I would prefer BF1 TTK before they change it. Imo the gameplay and gunplay was more fun in BF1. I dont like to play infantry in BFV for many reasons, which is the biggest reason why I fly exclusively. But the new TTK in even worse, so nothing is fixed for me. ---
**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 11:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/123 "2020-01-03T11:01:00Z")
> [@SirBobdk](#): > > (Quote) > I didnt have a problem with the TTK. It took some time to get used to it, but then it just felt like BF3. If I remember correctlyIf i could choose I would prefer BF1 TTK before they change it. Imo the gameplay and gunplay was more fun in BF1.I dont like to play infantry in BFV for many reasons, which is the biggest reason why I fly exclusively. > But the new TTK in even worse, so nothing is fixed for me. BFI was the most elaborate and polished BF ever made. That’s probably why you liked it so much ---
**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/124 "2020-01-03T12:48:00Z")
> [@InS\_Hypno](#): > > Threads like these are why the game has gone to > A significant majority of the community don’t like the changes and they should be listened to This qctually encouraged mmg camping. Also, the Nambu’s ttk is crazy fast. ---
**Author:** ![GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/graw2robz/32/102113_2.png) [@GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GRAW2ROBZ)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/125 "2020-01-03T14:09:00Z")
> [@mf\_shro0m](#): > > > [@SirBobdk](#): > > > > (Quote) > > I didnt have a problem with the TTK. It took some time to get used to it, but then it just felt like BF3. If I remember correctlyIf i could choose I would prefer BF1 TTK before they change it. Imo the gameplay and gunplay was more fun in BF1.I dont like to play infantry in BFV for many reasons, which is the biggest reason why I fly exclusively. > > But the new TTK in even worse, so nothing is fixed for me. > > BFI was the most elaborate and polished BF ever made. That’s probably why you liked it so much Actually Hardline was smooth sailing from the get go. Other then the bad release date. It was released around same time as GTA5 remastered for this gen. ---
**Author:** ![FatherDed](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/fatherded/32/106666_2.png) [@FatherDed](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FatherDed)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/126 "2020-01-03T16:10:00Z")
> [@TheNoobPolice](#): > > uninspiring audio Really??? lol ---
**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/127 "2020-01-03T16:24:00Z")
> [@GRAW2ROBZ](#): > > (Quote) > Actually Hardline was smooth sailing from the get go. Other then the bad release date. It was released around same time as GTA5 remastered for this gen. It may have been smooth but BFI feels a lot more elaborate ---
**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/128 "2020-01-03T16:33:00Z")
> [@mf\_shro0m](#): > > > [@GRAW2ROBZ](#): > > > > (Quote) > > Actually Hardline was smooth sailing from the get go. Other then the bad release date. It was released around same time as GTA5 remastered for this gen. > > It may have been smooth but BFI feels a lot more elaborate This. Especially, the Russian maps. 🤤 ---
**Author:** ![mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mf_shro0m/32/106941_2.png) [@mf\_shro0m](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mf_shro0m)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/129 "2020-01-03T17:17:00Z")
> [@TEKNOCODE](#): > > > [@\_shro0m](#): > > > > > [@GRAW2ROBZ](#): > > > > > > (Quote) > > > Actually Hardline was smooth sailing from the get go. Other then the bad release date. It was released around same time as GTA5 remastered for this gen. > > > > It may have been smooth but BFI feels a lot more elaborate > > This. Especially, the Russian maps. 🤤 That Russian cathedral on Tsaritsyn 😍 And I’ve gotta say that ballroom Blitz is one of the most memorable maps I’ve ever played. The palace and the trenches at the start of operations 👌🏻 ---
**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/130 "2020-01-03T17:28:00Z")
> [@mf\_shro0m](#): > > > [@TEKNOCODE](#): > > > > > [@\_shro0m](#): > > > > > > > [@GRAW2ROBZ](#): > > > > > > > > (Quote) > > > > Actually Hardline was smooth sailing from the get go. Other then the bad release date. It was released around same time as GTA5 remastered for this gen. > > > > > > It may have been smooth but BFI feels a lot more elaborate > > > > This. Especially, the Russian maps. 🤤 > > That Russian cathedral on Tsaritsyn 😍 > > And I’ve gotta say that ballroom Blitz is one of the most memorable maps I’ve ever played. The palace and the trenches at the start of operations 👌🏻 Been playing it a lot lately. Well, a lot for me that is. Most of the maps are fun. I still love rushing up/down the mountain on monte grappa in conquest. ---
**Author:** ![setzaroth](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/setzaroth/32/103420_2.png) [@setzaroth](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/setzaroth)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/131 "2020-03-03T17:58:00Z")
Just bumping this to laugh at you all for defending this change now that it’s basically reverting ---
**Author:** ![BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BeastofBourbon84)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/132 "2020-03-03T18:08:00Z")
Pointing fingers at fellow players is unnecessary but it goes to show how much value you can put into dice’s words. Kinda sad really. ---
**Author:** ![seventy7au](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@seventy7au](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/seventy7au)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/133 "2020-03-03T19:19:00Z")
[mf\_shro0m] said: > [@](#): > > > [@SirBobdk](#): > > > > [»] > > (Quote) > > I didnt have a problem with the TTK. It took some time to get used to it, but then it just felt like BF3. If I remember correctlyIf i could choose I would prefer BF1 TTK before they change it. Imo the gameplay and gunplay was more fun in BF1.I dont like to play infantry in BFV for many reasons, which is the biggest reason why I fly exclusively. > > But the new TTK in even worse, so nothing is fixed for me. > > BFI was the most elaborate and polished BF ever made. That’s probably why you liked it so much How many shrooms did you take mate? Most elaborate and polished my ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯. As for the current TTK, it’s a complete joke. > [@Setzaroth](#): > > Just bumping this to laugh at you all for defending this change now that it’s basically reverting Thanks for the laugh Proass ---
**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/134 "2020-03-03T21:04:00Z")
In all fairness, there is still one more bullet to kill compared to 5.0. Granted it’s for longer ranges. I feel that if one wanted to tweak the ttk, they should have started with this, small steps and see where it leads. Not like with 5.2 which was clearly too much for most situations. ---
**Author:** ![CHAMMOND1992](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@CHAMMOND1992](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CHAMMOND1992)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/135 "2020-03-04T14:44:00Z")
This thread really aged well. ---
**Author:** ![Shadow0nTh3Sun](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Shadow0nTh3Sun](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Shadow0nTh3Sun)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 2:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443/136 "2020-03-05T14:00:00Z")
> [@CHAMMOND1992](#): > > This thread really aged well. Like a fine milk. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/complete-revert-of-5-2-isnt-happening-thanks-dice-for-seeing-reason/107443.md?page=6)