I actually like the mode, it’s less hectic.
A few things I would like to see:
- Better defined flag cap zones. They aren’t marked, and some are too small.
- More maps. The games are quick, and the rotation goes quick. Longer games would help a bit.
I found myself doing this. Like on Arras, it was going back and forth from A to B. I chose the flags that had the best covered route.
The times I would mark a flag to defend, than wait while everyone else zerged (and no attackers would show, or I would face most the other team).
I’m not against Conquest Small although for me the maps felt a bit too empty without adjusting the size to the amount of players (not sure if all maps were not adjusted, don’t shoot me D: ) I would argue that the changes to maps, additional cover, fortification points, placement of cap points and the addition of tank changes the flow significantly. Spawn positions are fixed to points and the homebase which removes a lot of chaos and randomness from the equation. I think some more transport vehicles (say, two one-seaters) would be benefitial.
My only feedback is that we didn t need this stupid mode, it s basicly domination with tanks… Wow, what a formidable idea.
While we got that stupid mode, we lost Rush and Frontlines! GOOD JOB
It’s a competitive mode without proper team balance or clan scrim capability. It’s a lot of fun but at the same time frustrating because it has a lot more potential.
I was on Frontlines last night it looked like it was fixed. What did they break it again?
At least you guys found a server, I tried all sorts of combinations last night to find a server, but not one would show up in the server list. Gave up as usual!
My regular squad and I played for about two hours last night, only winning one match. It was a little disheartening, but I know why we lost, lack of communication and constantly running trying to cap all 3.
^^This was the first thought that came to mind when replaying the matches in my head this morning.
As with any game type in this game, it is most fun when the match is close. Even if I lose, it got my heart racing. Steamrolling, from either end, bores me to death. Which is what happened almost every match.
A few observations on my end:
- Is there a way to talk to the other squad? or is communication limited to your squad only?
- The minimap doesn’t show the cap zones.
- Rotterdam was a crapshoot. I’d be hard pressed to see an allied victory on that map with the axis spawn where it is. I didn’t see A one time in all the matches I played. I think the spawn should be positioned with access to A only, not both A and B.
- Tanks changed the dynamic entirely, if you aren’t bombard from spawn (Arras near A). Instead of focusing on the objective, my attention has shifted to the tank that is rolling in and infantry can flank around and cap. Point is, armor can shift the match drastically with a good tanker.
- Hamada is fun except for the people who camp out in the towers. Gotta take those down with tank or TNT right away.
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As with any game type in this game, it is most fun when the match is close. Even if I lose, it got my heart racing. Steamrolling, from either end, bores me to death. Which is what happened almost every match.
A few observations on my end:
- Is there a way to talk to the other squad? or is communication limited to your squad only?
- The minimap doesn’t show the cap zones.
- Rotterdam was a crapshoot. I’d be hard pressed to see an allied victory on that map with the axis spawn where it is. I didn’t see A one time in all the matches I played. I think the spawn should be positioned with access to A only, not both A and B.
- Tanks changed the dynamic entirely, if you aren’t bombard from spawn (Arras near A). Instead of focusing on the objective, my attention has shifted to the tank that is rolling in and infantry can flank around and cap. Point is, armor can shift the match drastically with a good tanker.
- Hamada is fun except for the people who camp out in the towers. Gotta take those down with tank or TNT right away.
That EXACT thing happened to me yesterday. I was in a locked squad, and my squadmate NEVER spawned.
Absolutely! I had a game on Hamada that was amazing! We were six players in our team. Great, we’ll have no chance, I thought. Later, another one left, so we were 5v8.
Outnumbered, we had to outsmart them, splitting up in smaller groups, 2+2+1, basically. We used spawn beacons, flares, heals, reviving, back capping, all the tools in the box. We came back from like 40 tickets down, it was down to the wire. But then they got the majority, and they also had their tank on our only flag. We couldn’t hold on, and we lost 0–1! Unbelievable!
It’s the most fun I’ve had in a Battlefield game in, I don’t know how long. This was all with randoms, by the way. I, at least, used no voice communication.
Of course, the fact that it was even remotely close, should tell you something about the difference in tactics and “skill”, between the teams. On the next map, when our team filled up, so we where 8v8, we all capped them in two minutes, and it was a spawn trap for the rest of the round. Super boring.
No no I think you misunderstand me. That’s not how I like to play; I can’t stand the merry go round and is why I don’t play CQL that much either because as you say it also happens there.
I’ve played many rounds (CQL) where we should have won but eventually lost because players have abandoned flags to take others when all they needed to do was hold those we had. It’s almost like they think they need to spawn trap the enemy to win.
And i find it really noticeable in SC, i think, because of the fewer number of players. As others have said if I stay and defend then it ends up as 8 vs 1 (or maybe 2) and that never ends well.
If I could find a round where all 16 players understood tactically (and I’ve played more than 1 round since) then I’m sure it could be great fun but I haven’t managed to find that yet and I’m not sure it’s going to happen outside some kind of organised event.
My observations so far are that you can tell which side will win within the first couple of minutes. Invariably one team seems to treat it like TDM - they lose.
When you get people working together it’s really quite fun and I guess the advantage of 8 per side is that there’s more chance that those 8 players “get it”. If you up the player count to 16 v 16 then you’d probably get 30% of the team playing their own private game and losing the match.
What we could really do with is inter-squad comms. So the 2 squad leaders could coordinate to cap and hold 2 of the 3 flags rather than both squads going for the same point. In earlier BFs (certainly BF1) you could see how many squads had orders for a particular objective and so choose appropriately. But I haven’t noticed the same thing in BFV
I like your intet-squad comms idea, and agree with you about how with bigger numbers they do their own thing
I hear you! It’s just that, in my experience, you don’t face 8 enemies, if you stay and defend a flag. You might face two or three. Most of the time, it’s not even a full squad, that’s attacking a flag. I’m not the greatest player, but with the proper position, I can handle two or three coming at me. If I have teammate as well, it’s no problem. Because the player number is only 8 in a team, you can actually defend flags, unlike in CQL, where you get half their team storming a flag, at the same time. Defending flags works as a strategy in Squad Conquest.
Rotterdam needs a complete rework for this mode, spawn and flag placement is completely unbalanced. It’s basically broken.
For me (ex CoD player) the best gamemode in BFV.
I hope this mode will remain forever.
DICE, great job. Thank you.
There is where they need knock-out conditions so rounds don’t drag on. should be a timer that starts when you cap majority flags or all flags and if they can’t stop you and regain majority or 1 flag before the timer ends then you win.
IF they do cap a flag or regain majority then your team gets a penalty timer that you have to work through before the main timer starts counting down again from where it left off.
This sort of system would end matches early that are lopsided. It would also still give a team a fighting chance to comeback.
The capture zones are a joke, they are far too small and that interaction plays identically to domination. Add on the quick capture times, and this game mode is not what people want in a variant of conquest with a vehicle on it. Look to Bad Company 2 CQ for the blueprint to this…
IMO the player count should be increased to 24, although I like the game mode it feels a little to barren. 12v12 I think would be perfect for this mode 1 additional squad per team would be perfect. It would increase the action and improve pacing.