# CPU Upgrade = Worse performance **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 23, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724 "2016-11-23T18:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![UniformGreen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/67e7ee/32.png) [@UniformGreen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UniformGreen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/1 "2016-11-23T18:22:00Z")
Today I upgraded my CPU from my old FX 6300 to an i5 6400 (got it with a big discount) and to 8GB DDR4 2133MHz. I paired the CPU to my GTX 970 (bought it this summer). My problem is that I get WORSE performance in Conquest and Operations. I used to have 50-60 on medium and now I get 40-50 on medium. The lowest I’ve seen was 29 on St. Scar at A flag when looking to the city. I thought AMD cpus have lower power per core, not better… ---
**Author:** ![S1noby](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/s1noby/32/103341_2.png) [@S1noby](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/S1noby)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/2 "2016-11-23T18:33:00Z")
This is a very interesting result. I think it may be attributed to FX6300 having 6 cores / 6 threads against 4 cores/4 threads of i5. I myself would have thought that higher single core performance of Intel CPU multiplied by 4 will outweigh 6 slower AMD cores. Apparently this is not the case in BF1 ---
**Author:** ![DukeSan27](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dukesan27/32/101798_2.png) [@DukeSan27](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DukeSan27)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/3 "2016-11-23T18:35:00Z")
There are a few threads with i5 performance problems. Also going down from 6 cores to 4 may also explain your issues. ---
**Author:** ![UniformGreen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/67e7ee/32.png) [@UniformGreen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UniformGreen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/4 "2016-11-23T18:38:00Z")
> [@DukeSan27](#): > > There are a few threads with i5 performance problems. > > Also going down from 6 cores to 4 may also explain your issues. Technicaly it has 3 cores, not 6. But this does not make any sense since BF1 is a very CPU intensive and FX 6300 isn’t that powerfull… In all the games I tested I get a big increase in performance like GTA V where the fps now doesn’t get below 60. This is very strange… I will try downgrading to 375.70 because I’ve heard that the latest Nvidia Drivers have some problems with GPU Downclocking. ---
**Author:** ![TacoBellsGravy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@TacoBellsGravy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TacoBellsGravy)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/5 "2016-11-23T18:44:00Z")
BF1 defies logic in every way, out of anyone reading this how many of us are surprised? ---
**Author:** ![MISFITSWITCH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/misfitswitch/32/102820_2.png) [@MISFITSWITCH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MISFITSWITCH)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/6 "2016-11-23T18:49:00Z")
No the 6300 does not have 6 cores. AMD lies about core count. That I5 is faster in every way. Is it all a fresh install of windows and all drivers? That combo should max this game easy. [![Video: Project Cars - The Witcher 3 - Crysis 3 GTX 970 & FX 6300 - i5 3570k - i7 6700k | 1080p](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/c/ec8988be5b595f3db6e8e034b9f00b9f3cd063b2.jpeg "Project Cars - The Witcher 3 - Crysis 3 GTX 970 & FX 6300 - i5 3570k - i7 6700k | 1080p") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQJ9lnqZKhI) [![Video: FX 6300 vs i5 6400 - GTA V Benchmark Test](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/2/b/2b4c76dbc782d258726eb1b9dcaeb74b485df9c2.jpeg "FX 6300 vs i5 6400 - GTA V Benchmark Test") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjuvHIw9s_4) ---
**Author:** ![BigF33t\_13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BigF33t\_13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BigF33t_13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/7 "2016-11-23T18:57:00Z")
The FX6300 DOES technically have 6 cores. It has 3 nodes, 2 cores per node. (which does the cache and floating point). Regardless, it performs very well with this game. It outperforms my friend who has in i5 6500 and an r9 280 (the big brother to my hd7950). He stutters like hell no matter what he does, and as long as I cap my frames, mine runs the game smooth as butter. Even uncapped, It only stutters mostly when I first launch a game. The benchmark is for GTA5 which is way more cpu bound. The fx6300 doesn’t perform well with that game. The other bench is Witcher and Crysis. Lets see you bench them at BF1. ---
**Author:** ![AldermachXI](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aldermachxi/32/101173_2.png) [@AldermachXI](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AldermachXI)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/8 "2016-11-23T18:59:00Z")
> [@S1noby](#): > > This is a very interesting result. I think it may be attributed to FX6300 having 6 cores / 6 threads against 4 cores/4 threads of i5. > I myself would have thought that higher single core performance of Intel CPU multiplied by 4 will outweigh 6 slower AMD cores. Apparently this is not the case in BF1 DICE Magic™ ---
**Author:** ![Sechnaill](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@Sechnaill](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sechnaill)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/9 "2016-11-23T18:59:00Z")
If you only have 8GB DDR4 2133MHz, I would double it. ---
**Author:** ![AldermachXI](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aldermachxi/32/101173_2.png) [@AldermachXI](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AldermachXI)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/10 "2016-11-23T19:03:00Z")
> [@Sechnaill](#): > > If you only have 8GB DDR4 2133MHz, I would double it. Yup. 8GB is minimum for the game. Never go with minimum…Always make sure you SURPASS a game’s “Recommended Specs”. If you have something minimal, expect minimal performance. No PC today should have less than 16GB RAM. I built this rig for BF3 and put 16GB in from Day 1… ---
**Author:** ![BBHoss](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bbhoss/32/101300_2.png) [@BBHoss](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BBHoss)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/11 "2016-11-23T19:08:00Z")
I have an i5 6500, 32GB ram, and a GTX 1080 FTW and it never/very rarely drops below my frame rate limiter ---
**Author:** ![DukeSan27](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dukesan27/32/101798_2.png) [@DukeSan27](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DukeSan27)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/12 "2016-11-23T19:29:00Z")
> [@S1noby](#): > > This is a very interesting result. I think it may be attributed to FX6300 having 6 cores / 6 threads against 4 cores/4 threads of i5. > I myself would have thought that higher single core performance of Intel CPU multiplied by 4 will outweigh 6 slower AMD cores. Apparently this is not the case in BF1 The i5 single core has only 30% higher pass mark score than 6300. So perhaps that’s why 4 don’t beat 6. BF1 would appear to be more muti-core happy than other games. ---
**Author:** ![UniformGreen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/67e7ee/32.png) [@UniformGreen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UniformGreen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/13 "2016-11-23T19:30:00Z")
> [@Sechnaill](#): > > If you only have 8GB DDR4 2133MHz, I would double it. I know dude, 16gb would be better, but at this moment, I just recieved the PC today so I don’t have money atm to upgrade again, but why in the world should I get lower FPS with an upgrade… I will try to reinstall Windows tomorrow but in GTA 5 and other games never goes below 60… ---
**Author:** ![SMEBJULAK](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/smebjulak/32/103532_2.png) [@SMEBJULAK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SMEBJULAK)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/14 "2016-11-23T19:36:00Z")
Need to wait for a “real” optimization patch, don’t need to reinstall your windows (i think). ---
**Author:** ![BigF33t\_13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BigF33t\_13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BigF33t_13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/15 "2016-11-23T19:39:00Z")
> [@Sechnaill](#): > > If you only have 8GB DDR4 2133MHz, I would double it. I only have 8 gb, and I average 5.7 gb in game. It maxes out at 6.1 gb. ---
**Author:** ![trig0tron](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trig0tron/32/103885_2.png) [@trig0tron](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/trig0tron)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/16 "2016-11-23T19:47:00Z")
First of all… Slow down, you built a new rig and reinstalled windows. You probably need a few more framework patches and updates and downloads until your system is up to date. Intel framework, etc. The i5 is the min I would use for Battlefield. And would check your new motherboard, to make sure your Memory is actually running at the proper speed, etc.. FWIW: Once you get to 4ghz (skylake ipc), then the more cores you add, the better Battlefield’s engine likes to run. Zen is going to be a Battlefielder’s dream. (+ True Audio…) ---
**Author:** ![UniformGreen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/67e7ee/32.png) [@UniformGreen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UniformGreen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/17 "2016-11-23T20:42:00Z")
> [@trig0tron](#): > > First of all… > Slow down, you built a new rig and reinstalled windows. You probably need a few more framework patches and updates and downloads until your system is up to date. Intel framework, etc. > > The i5 is the min I would use for Battlefield. And would check your new motherboard, to make sure your Memory is actually running at the proper speed, etc.. > > FWIW: Once you get to 4ghz (skylake ipc), then the more cores you add, the better Battlefield’s engine likes to run. Zen is going to be a Battlefielder’s dream. (+ True Audio…) Well I did not reinstall my Windows… ---
**Author:** ![IllelpokorllI](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illelpokorlli/32/102292_2.png) [@IllelpokorllI](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllelpokorllI)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/18 "2016-11-23T20:51:00Z")
i have a 6600k OCed to 4,2Ghz perfectly stable (prime95 overnight tested and passed), 2400mhz mems (tested with memtest86) and this game managed to crash my system. Not much more to say. I do have random framedrops to 55-ish and usually run the game with vsync on 75hz monitor. The framedrops and stutters were way less severe before patch, but still apparent. Don’t feel like i should have drops below 60fps in any settings meeting the “minimum” requirements, even tho those are crazy tbh. ---
**Author:** ![TronaldDump45](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tronalddump45/32/101546_2.png) [@TronaldDump45](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TronaldDump45)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/19 "2016-11-23T20:56:00Z")
> [@UniformGreenYT](#): > > Today I upgraded my CPU from my old FX 6300 to an i5 6400 (got it with a big discount) and to 8GB DDR4 2133MHz. I paired the CPU to my GTX 970 (bought it this summer). My problem is that I get WORSE performance in Conquest and Operations. I used to have 50-60 on medium and now I get 40-50 on medium. The lowest I’ve seen was 29 on St. Scar at A flag when looking to the city. I thought AMD cpus have lower power per core, not better… Your ram is the problem.. I have a i5 6500 16 gb ram 2133 Crappy gtx 950 I run all high with 2- 3 things on ultra at 1080p Constant 60 fps never drop… U need another 8 gb of ram ---
**Author:** ![AldermachXI](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aldermachxi/32/101173_2.png) [@AldermachXI](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AldermachXI)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724/20 "2016-11-23T21:00:00Z")
> [@BigF33t\_13](#): > > > [@Sechnaill](#): > > > > If you only have 8GB DDR4 2133MHz, I would double it. > > I only have 8 gb, and I average 5.7 gb in game. It maxes out at 6.1 gb. Yes, and then you have an OS and whatever else your PC is running. Plus you need overhead. If the game is using 80% of your RAM, that’s not a good thing lol. Silliness. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/cpu-upgrade-worse-performance/102724.md?page=2)