# Crutch Weapons **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 11, 2018, 4:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821 "2018-10-11T04:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BagAllDay](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c57346/32.png) [@BagAllDay](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BagAllDay)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 4:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/1 "2018-10-11T04:57:00Z")
Have crutch weapons been in every Battlefield? I know the BF1 crutch weapon (Hellriegel) was spammed to holy hell and still is to this day. Do these sorts of weapons plague every BF title? I’ve logged over 500 hours on BF 1 and around 200 on BF4 and haven’t played any other BF titles which is why I’m asking. ---
**Author:** ![VBALL\_MVP](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/vball_mvp/32/103977_2.png) [@VBALL\_MVP](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VBALL_MVP)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/2 "2018-10-11T05:29:00Z")
Someone will always accuse a weapon of being a crutch. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/3 "2018-10-11T07:13:00Z")
It is called assault class ---
**Author:** ![bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bran1986/32/101405_2.png) [@bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bran1986)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 8:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/4 "2018-10-11T08:19:00Z")
> [@Hawxxeye](#): > > It is called assault class /Thread ---
**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 8:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/5 "2018-10-11T08:19:00Z")
Probably the StG-44 judging on feedback. ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 8:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/6 "2018-10-11T08:26:00Z")
Like all Battlefields it will be an Assault fest. ---
**Author:** ![olavafar](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/olavafar/32/101046_2.png) [@olavafar](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/olavafar)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/7 "2018-10-11T09:24:00Z")
If there is no superior gun to use for the newbies the game gets boring for the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ninjapenquinuk)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/8 "2018-10-11T09:53:00Z")
Havent they already stated guns like the STG are in from the start because they are ‘easy’ to use without the need to grind through the unlocks. Apparently upgrades for guns like the STG will have lesser effect on the guns performance unlike some other weapons which may be a bit pants to start off with but good with upgrades ---
**Author:** ![Kongo030](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@Kongo030](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kongo030)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/9 "2018-10-11T11:52:00Z")
Assaultfest? Medicfest on maps with medium ranges and sniperfest on long range maps. TBH you can find anything in BF and some people will not PTFO even if you’d tie them to a flag pole.Hellriegel is good but SMG08 or Automatico even better with little training or the Anihilator. Oh yeah all assault weapons but the Avtomat is OP too isn’t it? This will be the same in BF V. There’s just currently less incentive to play medic there but the guns aren’t the reason. The Schmeisser is good, to. Just not a long range weapon as the STG. ---
**Author:** ![mav\_smileyface](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mav_smileyface/32/102765_2.png) [@mav\_smileyface](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mav_smileyface)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/10 "2018-10-11T12:05:00Z")
Well I’m going full time assault in BF V I mean an assault class that gets SLRs and dynamite!!? Holy cow man no other class will exist for me ---
**Author:** ![Thumper2671](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thumper2671/32/103833_2.png) [@Thumper2671](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Thumper2671)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/11 "2018-10-11T14:23:00Z")
From my experience: BF3 was the M16A3/AEK. BF4: Tough to say, saw the ACE 23 a lot, along with the AEK. BF1: The Noobriegel. BF5 (in the beta) was definitely the STG 44. ---
**Author:** ![ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ninjapenquinuk)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/12 "2018-10-11T14:39:00Z")
> [@Thumper2671](#): > > From my experience: > BF3 was the M16A3/AEK. > BF4: Tough to say, saw the ACE 23 a lot, along with the AEK. > BF1: The Noobriegel. > BF5 (in the beta) was definitely the STG 44. I must be one of the few people that never really got on with the Hellriegel. ---
**Author:** ![Imabaka70](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/imabaka70/32/102297_2.png) [@Imabaka70](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Imabaka70)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/13 "2018-10-11T14:43:00Z")
> [@ninjapenquinuk](#): > > > [@Thumper2671](#): > > > > From my experience: > > BF3 was the M16A3/AEK. > > BF4: Tough to say, saw the ACE 23 a lot, along with the AEK. > > BF1: The Noobriegel. > > BF5 (in the beta) was definitely the STG 44. > > I must be one of the few people that never really got on with the Hellriegel. Me neither 30ish kills total with it. While I will use the smg08 if I’m getting really annoyed, I generally prefer more elegant and civilized weapons ---
**Author:** ![doctorrocktor](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/doctorrocktor/32/101751_2.png) [@doctorrocktor](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/doctorrocktor)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/14 "2018-10-11T15:37:00Z")
Im sure dice said they are looking into the stg. ---
**Author:** ![Hay-its-dudeman](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/d2c977/32.png) [@Hay-its-dudeman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hay-its-dudeman)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/15 "2018-10-11T15:41:00Z")
> [@Kongo030](#): > > Oh yeah all assault weapons but the Avtomat is OP too isn’t it? I’m now more inclined to think the assault class is OP since only one ISN’T OP. Thanks for the heads up. ---
**Author:** ![DarkestHour138](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/darkesthour138/32/101633_2.png) [@DarkestHour138](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DarkestHour138)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/16 "2018-10-11T16:22:00Z")
> [@Imabaka70](#): > > > [@ninjapenquinuk](#): > > > > > [@Thumper2671](#): > > > > > > From my experience: > > > BF3 was the M16A3/AEK. > > > BF4: Tough to say, saw the ACE 23 a lot, along with the AEK. > > > BF1: The Noobriegel. > > > BF5 (in the beta) was definitely the STG 44. > > > > I must be one of the few people that never really got on with the Hellriegel. > > Me neither 30ish kills total with it. While I will use the smg08 if I’m getting really annoyed, I generally prefer more elegant and civilized weapons You got to use a lightsaber? ---
**Author:** ![DarkestHour138](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/darkesthour138/32/101633_2.png) [@DarkestHour138](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DarkestHour138)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/17 "2018-10-11T16:23:00Z")
> [@doctorrocktor](#): > > Im sure dice said they are looking into the stg. This is true. In the Dev talk #3 they said they’re nerfing it at close range. ---
**Author:** ![Imabaka70](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/imabaka70/32/102297_2.png) [@Imabaka70](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Imabaka70)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/18 "2018-10-11T17:07:00Z")
> [@DarkestHour138](#): > > > [@Imabaka70](#): > > > > > [@ninjapenquinuk](#): > > > > > > > [@Thumper2671](#): > > > > > > > > From my experience: > > > > BF3 was the M16A3/AEK. > > > > BF4: Tough to say, saw the ACE 23 a lot, along with the AEK. > > > > BF1: The Noobriegel. > > > > BF5 (in the beta) was definitely the STG 44. > > > > > > I must be one of the few people that never really got on with the Hellriegel. > > > > Me neither 30ish kills total with it. While I will use the smg08 if I’m getting really annoyed, I generally prefer more elegant and civilized weapons > > You got to use a Lightsaber? > > ![XzBpbfi.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/8/e/8e96d6f43ddfe2cccc87b9260fa11182ce2f31cf.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Kongo030](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@Kongo030](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kongo030)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/19 "2018-10-11T19:02:00Z")
> [@Hay-its-dudeman](#): > > > [@Kongo030](#): > > > > Oh yeah all assault weapons but the Avtomat is OP too isn’t it? > > I’m now more inclined to think the assault class is OP since only one ISN’T OP. Thanks for the heads up. Nah I’m just not a medic or support player so don’t really know their tools. Although that one light German LMG was a light saber as well. I really don’t pay attention to these things as luckily the game is so much more complex than boiling it down to weapons. OFC TDM this is much more relevant. ---
**Author:** ![BURGERKRIEG](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@BURGERKRIEG](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BURGERKRIEG)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821/20 "2018-10-11T19:39:00Z")
Didn’t the medics carry crutches on their backs in BF1? I couldn’t figure out which button to push to use em as a weapon though. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/crutch-weapons/105821.md?page=2)