# Destroy 2 planes with the Madsen MG trench

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 27, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096 "2017-07-27T02:24:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crabman169/32/101567_2.png) [@crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crabman169)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/81 "2017-07-27T14:59:00Z")

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> [@MarxistDictator](#):
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> Well they’re going to have to play modes with vehicles anyway if they want to unlock the other guns. What’s the deal with trying to reach out to those who just play a kiddy pool TDM?
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> Honestly the assignments are all so easy I’m surprised people are crying. The plane destruct is the only criteria I’m sure they’ll change anyway since it’s bizzare (why not use the MG15 Suppressive for this assignment and only involve 1 plane? I’m sure it’d convince people how effective ground fire actually is while being much more achievable and reasonable than using a high recoil mg without a bipod and a small magazine to do it).

Well you never had to for the TSNP weapons; I remember getting the Lebel Sniper on my first match on Verdun which was Frontlines

What if people seriously do not like playing those modes and are now being forced to on the lucky chance they MAY get to progress towards unlocking a dlc weapon. Hell the 25 AT mine kills for the Hel Defensive where annoying enough.

At least with the mp18 optical 20 headshots you could do it on any map on any mode hell even get it all in one match if you tried.

Honestly dont even know if it’s even be worth playing an objective mode such as conquest as everyone will be chasing the weapons and there is hardly any that promote playing the objective and teamwork.

“Kill 5 scouts with K bullets”  
May as well say give the enemy team a flag/tank/plane/horse five times

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**Author:** ![Esk1m0z4mb1k](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@Esk1m0z4mb1k](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Esk1m0z4mb1k)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/82 "2017-07-27T15:02:00Z")

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> [@crabman169](#):
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> Players who don’t play conquest/operations say “Hi”

I hate the MP18 optical, however I wanted the rib so I used it even if it was a chore. If they don’t want to bother playing a single game on a gamemode they’re not familiar to, then that’s their call. To be honest the assignement can be changed to something totally different I don’t care ; all I was doing is pointing out the fact that it is not really difficult to do it, I never said it was fun or anything.

> [@crabman169](#):
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> Also it’s using the Madsen Trench out of all lmgs.

Seems like devs are trolling infantry players, console particularly 😃

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**Author:** ![Esk1m0z4mb1k](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@Esk1m0z4mb1k](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Esk1m0z4mb1k)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/83 "2017-07-27T15:07:00Z")

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> [@Captain\_DarIing](#):
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> Another proof DICE is detached from the reality that happens on public servers.  
> Even detached from their own game.

I wish you were detached from this forum already

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**Author:** ![l\_water\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@l\_water\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/l_water_l)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/84 "2017-07-27T15:15:00Z")

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Every support should already be firing at planes. If you support main and you have never taken down a plane you might as well switch to scout.

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**Author:** ![Dogwoggle11](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dogwoggle11/32/101753_2.png) [@Dogwoggle11](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dogwoggle11)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/85 "2017-07-27T15:27:00Z")

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> [@MarxistDictator](#):
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> Honestly the assignments are all so easy I’m surprised people are crying. The plane destruct is the only criteria I’m sure they’ll change anyway since it’s bizzare (why not use the MG15 Suppressive for this assignment and only involve 1 plane? I’m sure it’d convince people how effective ground fire actually is while being much more achievable and reasonable than using a high recoil mg without a bipod and a small magazine to do it).

It’s not about the assignments being easy or hard to achieve. Like I said before, if one player wants a certain weapon, he will complete the assignment sooner or later.

As I see it, there are two reasons why people is “crying”, as you say it:

1. The weapons are already behind a pay wall (DLC or Premium); why make the players grind for something they should already have?

2. It affects gameplay. We’ve already seen this when they added the assignments for the variants of the Lvl 10 weapons. If one assignment is about getting 20 Rifle grenade kills, suddenly the servers are full of Medics without a syringe spamming grenades all over the place. And now they have added assignments for Mortar, Rifle grenades, AT Rocket gun, Tripwires…  
So until this all clears up, it will be a explosives spam festival.

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**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/86 "2017-07-27T15:30:00Z")

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> [@Dogwoggle11](#):
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> > [@MarxistDictator](#):
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> > Honestly the assignments are all so easy I’m surprised people are crying. The plane destruct is the only criteria I’m sure they’ll change anyway since it’s bizzare (why not use the MG15 Suppressive for this assignment and only involve 1 plane? I’m sure it’d convince people how effective ground fire actually is while being much more achievable and reasonable than using a high recoil mg without a bipod and a small magazine to do it).
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> 1. The weapons are already behind a pay wall (DLC or Premium); why make the players grind for something they should already have?

I’ll pay another $20 to remove assignments.

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**Author:** ![Zooboid](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zooboid/32/104202_2.png) [@Zooboid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zooboid)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/87 "2017-07-27T15:30:00Z")

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I personally prefer not to have to unlock them via challenges. Just make it war bonds or something. By all means keep adding new challenges in but award a medal or dog tag for doing them.

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**Author:** ![boutneus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@boutneus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/boutneus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/88 "2017-07-27T15:40:00Z")

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Perform 10 kills with the rifle grenade 0/30 lollol

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**Author:** ![HardAimedKid](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hardaimedkid/32/102174_2.png) [@HardAimedKid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HardAimedKid)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/89 "2017-07-27T16:02:00Z")

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> [@realistalive](#):
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> Unless DICE change up the requirements, “Destroy 2 planes with the Madsen MG trench” is going to be the new “Get 20 headshots with MP-18 Optical”

Did that in 2.5 matchesof tdm. This one is going to take a lot more investment I believe lol

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**Author:** ![EvilSoul1321](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/7993a0/32.png) [@EvilSoul1321](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EvilSoul1321)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/90 "2017-07-27T16:17:00Z")

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All of these don’t seem that hard except the destroy 2 planes with the Madsen trench.

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**Author:** ![x\_Undaunted\_x](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/x_undaunted_x/32/104094_2.png) [@x\_Undaunted\_x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/x_Undaunted_x)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/91 "2017-07-27T17:19:00Z")

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IMO, it would make more sense for this assignment to be something along the lines of “Land 300 shots on planes with the Madsen Trench.” It would make the assignment more achievable without being a ridiculous grind while ultimately achieving the purpose of the assignment (getting people to use other weapons.)

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**Author:** ![BrianLocal1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/e56c9b/32.png) [@BrianLocal1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BrianLocal1)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/92 "2017-07-27T17:20:00Z")

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Just destroying 2 planes is hard enough.

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**Author:** ![l\_water\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@l\_water\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/l_water_l)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/93 "2017-07-27T17:22:00Z")

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> [@BrianLocal1](#):
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> Just destroying 2 planes is hard enough.

Literally all you will have to do is fire at a plane while it is being shot at by AA. It is not hard at all.

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**Author:** ![Forkbeard84](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/forkbeard84/32/101986_2.png) [@Forkbeard84](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Forkbeard84)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/94 "2017-07-27T17:24:00Z")

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> [@Austacker](#):
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> > [@Forkbeard84](#):
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> > There is sure a lot of whining going on here. - Take out a plane with a machine gun? Never really tried that before. Interesting.
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> Words of wisdom from someone who’s never even tried it. /facepalm
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> > [@Forkbeard84](#):
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> > What should they do? Give us the new guns with no effort on our part? That would not feel very rewarding.
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> No one is saying anything against an unlock challenge at all here.
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> Just give us one that makes god damned sense and is realistic?
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> Like you said yourself, you’ve never even tried to take out a plane with a machine gun.
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> So how on earth do you feel entitled to even comment here, yet alone lambast others for ‘whining’ about it?

So I’m not qualified to comment here? How many planes have you shot down with the Madsen?

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve shot at planes with machine guns and gotten hits. I’ve just never destroyed one with a machine gun that I can remember. It has not been my focus in the game. But I think it would be fun to try to pull it off and now you even get rewarded if you can.

Like I said a lot of people whining because they have to try and shoot a plane down with a machine gun. Live a little, expand your capability, get rewarded. That’s what I’m going to try and do.

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**Author:** ![ashar\_saleem121](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/779978/32.png) [@ashar\_saleem121](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ashar_saleem121)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/95 "2017-07-27T17:28:00Z")

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> [@HardAimedKid](#):
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> > [@realistalive](#):
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> > Unless DICE change up the requirements, “Destroy 2 planes with the Madsen MG trench” is going to be the new “Get 20 headshots with MP-18 Optical”
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> Did that in 2.5 matchesof tdm. This one is going to take a lot more investment I believe lol

I agree. Never had too much trouble with the 20 headshots challenge because it just meant strolling the edges of TDM maps and cleaning out snipers ears with lead.

The 2 planes is going to involve a lot of luck, not skill. You have to be lucky enough to find a plane with next to zero health and land the killing shot amongst all the other people shooting at the plane.

And with any competent pilot, they’re going to take a few shots and fly off to repair. And again. And again.

All the people who are saying this will be easy are just try hards which basically are translating to “Look at me! I’m good at this game! All you people suck!”

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**Author:** ![SaintBrandon88](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SaintBrandon88](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SaintBrandon88)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/96 "2017-07-27T17:37:00Z")

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People don’t realize how much damage firearms do to planes. In one pass, I can do 20+ damage with a medic rifle. Did so the other night. Have also destroyed quite a few planes while a friendly pilot was chasing them. Get 4-5 people shooting at one and boom. This challenge may be their goal, to show players that it is effective to shoot at planes with their firearms. May not be the easiest challenge in the world, but it’s definitely possible, and sounds like it would be fun to try.

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**Author:** ![BaconRebellion](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baconrebellion/32/101270_2.png) [@BaconRebellion](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaconRebellion)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/97 "2017-07-27T17:41:00Z")

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> [@SaintBrandon88](#):
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> People don’t realize how much damage firearms do to planes. In one pass, I can do 20+ damage with a medic rifle. Did so the other night. Have also destroyed quite a few planes while a friendly pilot was chasing them. Get 4-5 people shooting at one and boom. This challenge may be their goal, to show players that it is effective to shoot at planes with their firearms. May not be the easiest challenge in the world, but it’s definitely possible, and sounds like it would be fun to try.

And if it was with the lewis gun suppressive or the mg15 then fine. But the Madsen Trench? May as well make a challeneg of destroying a tank with the kolibri

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**Author:** ![bapman63](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bapman63/32/101289_2.png) [@bapman63](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bapman63)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/98 "2017-07-27T17:49:00Z")

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> [@SaintBrandon88](#):
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> People don’t realize how much damage firearms do to planes. In one pass, I can do 20+ damage with a medic rifle. Did so the other night. Have also destroyed quite a few planes while a friendly pilot was chasing them. Get 4-5 people shooting at one and boom. This challenge may be their goal, to show players that it is effective to shoot at planes with their firearms. May not be the easiest challenge in the world, but it’s definitely possible, and sounds like it would be fun to try.

Yes but only one will get the kill then as more and more get their two the remainder will just have to deal with it???

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**Author:** ![SaintBrandon88](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SaintBrandon88](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SaintBrandon88)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/99 "2017-07-27T17:50:00Z")

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> [@BaconRebellion](#):
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> > [@SaintBrandon88](#):
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> > People don’t realize how much damage firearms do to planes. In one pass, I can do 20+ damage with a medic rifle. Did so the other night. Have also destroyed quite a few planes while a friendly pilot was chasing them. Get 4-5 people shooting at one and boom. This challenge may be their goal, to show players that it is effective to shoot at planes with their firearms. May not be the easiest challenge in the world, but it’s definitely possible, and sounds like it would be fun to try.
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> And if it was with the lewis gun suppressive or the mg15 then fine. But the Madsen Trench? May as well make a challeneg of destroying a tank with the kolibri

To be fair, yeah, I have only used that gun a few times, so I don’t know how it would fare shooting at planes. Some guns suck at it. I was quite surprised how effective the autloading 8.25 extended was at it.

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**Author:** ![HANSGRUBER30](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hansgruber30/32/102169_2.png) [@HANSGRUBER30](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HANSGRUBER30)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/destroy-2-planes-with-the-madsen-mg-trench/103096/100 "2017-07-27T17:56:00Z")

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> [@BaconRebellion](#):
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> > [@SaintBrandon88](#):
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> > People don’t realize how much damage firearms do to planes. In one pass, I can do 20+ damage with a medic rifle. Did so the other night. Have also destroyed quite a few planes while a friendly pilot was chasing them. Get 4-5 people shooting at one and boom. This challenge may be their goal, to show players that it is effective to shoot at planes with their firearms. May not be the easiest challenge in the world, but it’s definitely possible, and sounds like it would be fun to try.
> 
> And if it was with the lewis gun suppressive or the mg15 then fine. But the Madsen Trench? May as well make a challeneg of destroying a tank with the kolibri

No that would be easy, plant landmines next to a camping tank then shot them with the kolibri some time it credits the gun you shot the mine with rather the landmines.

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