# DICE Comments on High Ping Advantage

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051>\
**Category:** Console\
**Created:** [June 28, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051 "2014-06-28T15:35:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VBALL\_MVP](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/vball_mvp/32/103977_2.png) [@VBALL\_MVP](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VBALL_MVP)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/81 "2014-06-28T21:57:00Z")

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@munny,

You have no idea what your are talking about. I’ve personally seen people go 43-3 OSKing people on domination. he literary cleared 2 people turned 180 and took out me and 2 others that were shooting at him and still had 100 health. Where was he from…Japan, and playing US East coast server.

Add long as you jump around every 4 to 5 games, region hoppers have the advantage.

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**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/82 "2014-06-28T22:38:00Z")

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He’s from SA…he has no servers…he benefits from the comp. Of course he doesn’t want it tweaked. ..then he’ll have to face the fact that his “skill” is actually lag comp.

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**Author:** ![Elite\_Precision](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@Elite\_Precision](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Elite_Precision)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/83 "2014-06-28T23:00:00Z")

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> _alcatraz669 said:_  
> He’s from SA…he has no servers…he benefits from the comp. Of course he doesn’t want it tweaked. ..then he’ll have to face the fact that his "skill" is actually lag comp.

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**Author:** ![agentbook05](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/agentbook05/32/105368_2.png) [@agentbook05](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/agentbook05)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/84 "2014-06-28T23:08:00Z")

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> _alcatraz669 said:_  
> He’s from SA…he has no servers…he benefits from the comp. Of course he doesn’t want it tweaked. ..then he’ll have to face the fact that his "skill" is actually lag comp.

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**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/85 "2014-06-28T23:14:00Z")

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> _alcatraz669 said:_  
> He’s from SA…he has no servers…he benefits from the comp. Of course he doesn’t want it tweaked. ..then he’ll have to face the fact that his "skill" is actually lag comp.

Agreed and I am happy to even have a positive KDR in this LAG fest mess but the bigger question is - will South America get their own servers? If not, the lag comp would have to stop rewarding 200+ ms ping and an average net speed of 1mpbs - 500k up. Even if they get their own severs, there needs to be something in place that provides benefit for playing local. Look at Japan. They have servers and yet flock to the east coast US. Balance cannot be left up to players alone. Most will always seek advantage.

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**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/86 "2014-06-28T23:23:00Z")

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There needs to be ping locks..that way servers will be there to accommodate a wide range of pings..0-50 50-100. 100-150. 150-200 200-250 250-300.If u have a ping over 300 just stop playing online guy

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**Author:** ![illestnoobv2](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/f19dbf/32.png) [@illestnoobv2](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/illestnoobv2)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/87 "2014-06-28T23:28:00Z")

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lol @ bad players complaining about high ping players. lrn2play scrubs.

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**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/88 "2014-06-28T23:31:00Z")

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> _alcatraz669 said:_  
> There needs to be ping locks..that way servers will be there to accommodate a wide range of pings..0-50 50-100. 100-150. 150-200 200-250 250-300.If u have a ping over 300 just stop playing online guy

I support this

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> illestnoobv2 said:  
> lol @ bad players complaining about high ping players. lrn2play scrubs.

I ll bite it

I know how to play in a leveled battlefield but when it comes playing against Laggturds and Lag compesation I could have superhuman reflexes that would not do squat…  
Please close the door on the way out

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**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/89 "2014-06-28T23:31:00Z")

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> _illestnoobv2 said:_  
> lol @ bad players complaining about high ping players. lrn2play scrubs.

Spoken like a true and selfish OOR. Thank you for the bump of this very important news. Your time is about to expire 🙂

Yes but then we get into the mess about SONY/Microsoft limits. Blah. As of right now, the Dev spoke of a net-code fix first but did say that may not be enough.

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**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/90 "2014-06-28T23:37:00Z")

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> _iSpyRecon said:_
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> > _illestnoobv2 said:_  
> > lol @ bad players complaining about high ping players. lrn2play scrubs.
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> Spoken like a true and selfish OOR. Thank you for the bump of this very important news. Your time is about to expire 🙂
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> Yes but then we get into the mess about SONY/Microsoft limits. Blah. As of right now, the Dev spoke of a net-code fix first but did say that may not be enough.

If it s true that is Microsoft that will be holding it back well DicEa wont do it to Ps systems…(someone stated it before referring to Warframe in Ps4 having ping cap)  
But what bugs me is :if they do it to private servers they would not be directly responsible for it since it would be us imposing the Ping cap

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**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/91 "2014-06-28T23:40:00Z")

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Right. Then again, I was saying before this news that the lag comp just needs to be tweaked and not give advantage / disadvantage and this Dev did make mention of that in a round about way. I guess in other words, if the lag comp was only for balance and not tipping the scale, location may not be as important, IE PING locks? Fun to speculate I guess. Just hope we get news and fast!

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**Author:** ![coldatrophy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/cab0a1/32.png) [@coldatrophy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/coldatrophy)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/92 "2014-06-28T23:59:00Z")

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> _iSpyRecon said:_  
> Right. Then again, I was saying before this news that the lag comp just needs to be tweaked and not give advantage / disadvantage and this Dev did make mention of that in a round about way. I guess in other words, if the lag comp was only for balance and not tipping the scale, location may not be as important, IE PING locks? Fun to speculate I guess. Just hope we get news and fast!

Perhaps, the laggers will just have a crappy experience then, just like they should if their internet sucks balls or they insist on playing in servers that they have a super high ping to.

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**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/93 "2014-06-29T00:23:00Z")

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They do get an advantage. This is why so many people with regional servers chose to play in other region servers thousands of miles from them. I can’t be mad at people that have no servers in their own region…but that still should not be compensated so high

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**Author:** ![MrShatner916](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MrShatner916](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrShatner916)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/94 "2014-06-29T01:18:00Z")

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Let’s get this thing goin!

Word up

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**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/95 "2014-06-29T01:18:00Z")

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> _MrShatner916 said:_  
> Let’s get this thing goin!
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> Word up

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**Author:** ![JBModz1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jbmodz1/32/102378_2.png) [@JBModz1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JBModz1)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/96 "2014-06-29T02:43:00Z")

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no advantage? how is a player better than me when i am taking bullets before he is on my screen? when im into a 5th burst with an m16 and still have no hit marker then i just drop to the ground, he killed me without turning around. then the dogtag says it all. if you region hop and feel no advantage, its because it looks worse on the dead guys screen.

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**Author:** ![TrueGunShotta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/truegunshotta/32/103894_2.png) [@TrueGunShotta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TrueGunShotta)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 2:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/97 "2014-06-29T02:48:00Z")

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lol they design a game with lag compensation then wonder why people play out of region. They clearly are aware and admitted that playing out of region is an advantage, why the hell are these people not fired?

What did you expect, you designed a game not for gamers, but a game that could be played in country’s with awful internet. You were clearly more concerned with bringin in more money, rather than delivering a game experience that was good for the players. Might of got you a little more money at first, but in the long run you LOST money off these idiotic decisions

Now, things are biting you in the ass and you realized oh maybe gameplay should be a priority. This is by far the worst managed game I’ve ever played, and I’ve been playing video games for a very long time.

They need to fire the CEO, as he himself admitted he doesn’t play games and never will, he thinks it’s not important to be a gamer when your running a gaming company… well sir you are an ignorant fool as you are running it into the ground. They need to clean house, and start all over. I will not be purchasing hardline, and maybe not even bf5 unless serious changes are made.

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**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 3:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/98 "2014-06-29T03:09:00Z")

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At least they are (finally) admitting something here…

Now the big question remains?  
What will be done to improve gameplay?

Will they go to the core of the issue or will they be throwing more sand to our eyes?

we all see in the coming days what will happen…

_“crossing fingers and hoping for PING CAP\limit and PING DISPLAY IN SCOREBOARD”_

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**Author:** ![TrueGunShotta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/truegunshotta/32/103894_2.png) [@TrueGunShotta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TrueGunShotta)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/99 "2014-06-29T03:14:00Z")

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> _UpUrMammasArse said:_  
> At least they are (finally) admitting something here…
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> Now the big question remains?  
> What will be done to improve gameplay?
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> Will they go to the core of the issue or will they be throwing more sand to our eyes?
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> we all see in the coming days what will happen…
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> _"crossing fingers and hoping for PING CAP\limit and PING DISPLAY IN SCOREBOARD"_

Indeed, I’m glad they are finally addressing it. But is it too little too late? This game is well beyond half it’s life span, once hardline comes out the community is going to be so small. This game, 8 months after release, is a MUCH smaller community than bf3 was well after all the DLC’s were released. bf4 had an opportunity to be an amazing game, but they killed it before it even had a chance.

It’s just poor management in my opinion. Their company is too big, and there is so much miscommunication nothing gets done. There are tons of games out there with a very small development team, under 20 people, and they are putting out amazing games because they manage their time wisely and everything doesnt have to go through red tape and get passed around from person to person.

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**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/100 "2014-06-29T03:20:00Z")

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I’ve played out if region..I will admit the overall lag is bad..the rubberbanding, frame drops, textures suck…but I have noticed this..when it comes to gun fights, I win a lot of them when I should be dead..use also noticed that the reaction time is slow…I will shot a guy 4 times before he even realizes and tries to turn or lift his gun..and by that time he does begin to react it’s too late

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