# DICE Comments on High Ping Advantage **URL:** \ **Category:** Console\ **Created:** [June 28, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051 "2014-06-28T15:35:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![miju-irl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@miju-irl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/miju-irl)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 1:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/121 "2014-06-29T13:42:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _MuNny-Inc89 said:_ > How many times is this high ping advantage crap still gonna around for. I don’t have the best connection and I can tell you from a personal experience that I always suffer a disadvantage when coming up against players with a better connection. Lag/high ping advantage is a farce created by bad players who need an excuse when they get owned by players who are just better than they are Has a bad connection and a 2.1 k/d and doesnt see a problem , wonder why LOL ---
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/122 "2014-06-29T15:35:00Z")
Bump ---
**Author:** ![FUBAR\_2691](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@FUBAR\_2691](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FUBAR_2691)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/123 "2014-06-29T15:48:00Z")
I did not put much thought about the ping, lag, netcode etc… issues with BF4. It was the nature of the game and it is what it is. There was nothing I could do about it. So I played because I enjoyed playing, especially with my clan and friends. However, I just finished a game where 90% of the enemy was OOR player. I was massacred at every single engagement, even if I have the drop on the enemy. There was nothing I could do. I try not to get frustrated because it’s just a game for enjoyment. But this time I was becoming frustrated and was not having fun. ---
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/124 "2014-06-29T15:48:00Z")
DICE needs to hurry…a lot of angry people around here ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/125 "2014-06-29T16:19:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _alcatraz669 said:_ > DICE needs to hurry…a lot of angry people around here Ppl have been angry for a long time now (maybe 8 1\2 months)… I think that HFU just came and took the Mantle that was covering this Bullcr\*p, after HFU all went more extreme IMO… When the game is running well it is really good to play, fun and addicting, but When is running bad (Due we all know why) plays like HorseShoes, its infuriating, frustrating and rage inducing… ---
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/126 "2014-06-29T16:23:00Z")
My best experience, as far as hit detection, was when the game was when the ps4 came out…only one region had it..no lag compensation… only one problem CONQUEST DIDNT WORK.. and the ce error but I never got those ---
**Author:** ![stanbury24](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@stanbury24](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stanbury24)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/127 "2014-06-29T16:35:00Z")
I’m sure if we continue to vent our anger we will get answers ..hit detection can be awful ,for instance earlier I got the drop on a recon guy who was unaware of me I shoot and unload two 3-4 bursts from my scar-h (with confirmed hits) only for him to turn and drop me in 3 rounds of from his pistol,before the killcam flashed up I thought to myself " I bet he’s oor"… And yep Mexican why are we even having these issues ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/128 "2014-06-29T16:36:00Z")
They will need to do something about South America firstly. If ping limits do come (I still have every doubt), my ping NY to Brazil (for example) is 225 ms. A ping cap would need to be lower then that to make a difference and then you still have the current lag compensation scheme favoring dial up. And yes, it’s not a troll threat to say I am done if no changes come. I simply cannot justify additional purchases on DLCs and games to be an easy target for an OOR. ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/129 "2014-06-29T16:40:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _alcatraz669 said:_ > My best experience, as far as hit detection, was when the game was when the ps4 came out…only one region had it..no lag compensation… only one problem > > CONQUEST DIDNT WORK.. > > and the ce error but I never got those Yes I remember those days… the game seemed to run much better… But if You think about it it all comes down to the same issue… I dont think that PS4 had been released in South America by then…just saying ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 4:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/130 "2014-06-29T16:45:00Z")
To add: South America is hosting servers in every region now. I guess ‘enter at your own risk’ would be the motto there. When I server browser my local (east coast US) I often have no other option but to jump in to their rented servers. Granted, when I do jump on a DICE server (east coast US), it’s all South American players anyway. In game we have EAST US and WEST US. In BL there is NORTH AMERICA and SOUTH AMERICA. South America shows no active servers. Just give South America the West US and name it South America. I have zero issue playing with someone from the west coast US and them with me. In any event, any changes must include South America having servers and then a ping lock would force them to stay there - rented anyway. ---
**Author:** ![FLYNG\_DUTCHM4N](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FLYNG\_DUTCHM4N](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FLYNG_DUTCHM4N)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/131 "2014-06-29T17:21:00Z")
iSpy, is not only the SA that join east and west servers…EU, JP, South Korea, etc…why are Braziians the bad boys? Still, you have the whole CENTRAL America, and remember, having a high ping, doesn’t always mean bad connection…also, a high ping maybe miles away from you, e.g. Florida. Anyway, I would love to see servers located here in SA for PS4 and XOne…also, I do agree admins need to have control over high ping, it won’t be a problema for SA, since we can also rent servers located in US, EU or Asia. ---
**Author:** ![TrueGunShotta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/truegunshotta/32/103894_2.png) [@TrueGunShotta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TrueGunShotta)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/132 "2014-06-29T17:26:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _FLYNG\_DUTCHM4N said:_ > iSpy, is not only the SA that join east and west servers…EU, JP, South Korea, etc…why are Braziians the bad boys? Still, you have the whole CENTRAL America, and remember, having a high ping, doesn’t always mean bad connection…also, a high ping maybe miles away from you, e.g. Florida. > > Anyway, I would love to see servers located here in SA for PS4 and XOne…also, I do agree admins need to have control over high ping, it won’t be a problema for SA, since we can also rent servers located in US, EU or Asia. You are right, you can have a great connection but if you connect to a server across the world your ping is going to be high, and ruin EVERYONES experience on that server. People should simply play in their region, problem solved. Granted some players don’t have servers for their area, so it’s understandable they join the nearest thing to them. But, we should be able to see ping lvls end of discussion. ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/133 "2014-06-29T17:30:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _FLYNG\_DUTCHM4N said:_ > iSpy, is not only the SA that join east and west servers…EU, JP, South Korea, etc…why are Braziians the bad boys? Still, you have the whole CENTRAL America, and remember, having a high ping, doesn’t always mean bad connection…also, a high ping maybe miles away from you, e.g. Florida. > > Anyway, I would love to see servers located here in SA for PS4 and XOne…also, I do agree admins need to have control over high ping, it won’t be a problema for SA, since we can also rent servers located in US, EU or Asia. Even if it is a generalization it does not make it less true… By experience 8 out of 10 games I make with OOR players the ones with south and central america And Midlle East and South Africa are the worst games… why ? Beats me, but I would guess it is because the fiber connection they have and the distance between them and the servers… If this was not a problem U think PPl would come here lose their time complaining instead of playing the game Are U ppl for real? ---
**Author:** ![FLYNG\_DUTCHM4N](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FLYNG\_DUTCHM4N](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FLYNG_DUTCHM4N)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/134 "2014-06-29T17:33:00Z")
what is PPL? I don’t know about EU, just play in east US. ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/135 "2014-06-29T17:37:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _FLYNG\_DUTCHM4N said:_ > iSpy, is not only the SA that join east and west servers…EU, JP, South Korea, etc…why are Braziians the bad boys? Still, you have the whole CENTRAL America, and remember, having a high ping, doesn’t always mean bad connection…also, a high ping maybe miles away from you, e.g. Florida. > > Anyway, I would love to see servers located here in SA for PS4 and XOne…also, I do agree admins need to have control over high ping, it won’t be a problema for SA, since we can also rent servers located in US, EU or Asia. I have mixed feelings about it if I am to be honest. While it is true that SA does not have a server to call their own… and, US servers are the logical choice, you also see many in South America extending their exploit by not only playing in EU and AU but hosting servers there as well. Yes, I agree and have always voiced issue with Japan. They in fact have a server and yet flock to the east coast US like clock work. IMO, it is one step above cheating. Let me also go on recording in saying, I know there are just as many US players region jumping 24/7 and it needs to stop! Just a failure to convey the idea that I am actually looking out for other players. If ping limits arrive or if the lag compensation no longer favors poor speeds, South America (for example) will be region less in all regions. This is why it would be very beneficial to all that they are given their own servers (as they should in the first place.) I made the suggestion that we rename west coast US to South America. No cost involved in that and I do not think anyone in the US has issue with another other player across the entire US. My ping from NY to LA is 80ms or so. Not a problem for me or them. My ping to Brazil spikes to 250 ms. That is a problem and that is what they bring to our servers along with very poor speeds. ---
**Author:** ![KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7c8e57/32.png) [@KuasiMorto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KuasiMorto)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/136 "2014-06-29T17:38:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _FLYNG\_DUTCHM4N said:_ > what is PPL? > I don’t know about EU, just play in east US. PPL = people And I play only on Europe and am to tired to continue discussing the same thing over and over again … I understand U guys not having Ur own servers yes is really bad, I am glad that we have it here… The goal for this thread is not to make u ppl not play the game , but to balance the game to everyone in a fair way… With ping display on scoreboard Active Admins could kick anyone who has High pings With ping cap\auto kick High pingers would not be able to join in the first place It is more than legit and fair the request Anyone who does not get it , is plain dumb or is taking advantage of the situation No more no less ---
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 6:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/137 "2014-06-29T18:11:00Z")
Ping lock for private servers…ping numbers shown In scoreboard…win for all ---
**Author:** ![iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@iSpyRecon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iSpyRecon)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/138 "2014-06-29T18:42:00Z")
Everything is speculative at this stage but I do wonder how ping limits (if) they come to private servers would work and what is the threshold. I also can see players advertising their server to be set a 50 ms (example) but its really set at 200 ms (example). Not sure where I am going with this … lol Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![h1ll13illy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/9dc877/32.png) [@h1ll13illy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/h1ll13illy)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 7:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/139 "2014-06-29T19:11:00Z")
I would lov to see Battlefield come to a place that it is actually enjoyable to play. If they can do it no other FPS could touch the series. As of now I’m not playing much at all and won’t till improvement comes. I just stay pissed off most of the game anyhow. ---
**Author:** ![alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@alcatraz669](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alcatraz669)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051/140 "2014-06-29T19:18:00Z")
That’s why when you go into the servers browser..under the name of the servers it should also show the ms it is currently set at…and should change if and when and admin changes it [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051.md?page=6) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-comments-on-high-ping-advantage/172051.md?page=8)