# DICE, explain yourself. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 1, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404 "2016-07-01T02:43:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Not\_Paul\_Blart](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e9a140/32.png) [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Not_Paul_Blart)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/1 "2016-07-01T02:43:00Z")
I’m looking incredibly forward to playing this game, and already have a preorder in, but what is up with pic related? You guys thought it was too ridiculous too include women as a playable model in multiplayer(which I agree, it is ridiculous), but then decide to make 75% of the British Armed forces minorities? Why is having women portrayed in this game anymore ridiculous than making the British military in ww1 out to be nothing but minorities with one single token white guy? What was your reasoning here? Diversity just for diversity’s sake is stupid. ![M6b9B6P.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/3/e/3e89698a95de4c193b32303837bc1142028138f4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![WALKINGCORPSE1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@WALKINGCORPSE1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WALKINGCORPSE1)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/2 "2016-07-01T02:51:00Z")
this might not be the final look yet, just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Paul\_Blart](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e9a140/32.png) [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Not_Paul_Blart)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 2:54am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/3 "2016-07-01T02:54:00Z")
> [@WALKINGCORPSE1](#): > > this might not be the final look yet, just saying. I hope there is some kind of customization option or something and everybody can just pick what race they want to be. Like something similar to the system they have in Battlefront. ---
**Author:** ![crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crabman169/32/101567_2.png) [@crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crabman169)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/4 "2016-07-01T02:56:00Z")
> [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](#): > > > [@WALKINGCORPSE1](#): > > > > this might not be the final look yet, just saying. > > I hope there is some kind of customization option or something and everybody can just pick what race they want to be. Like something similar to the system they have in Battlefront. Solve lots of issues that everyon has ---
**Author:** ![WALKINGCORPSE1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@WALKINGCORPSE1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WALKINGCORPSE1)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/5 "2016-07-01T02:57:00Z")
> [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](#): > > > [@WALKINGCORPSE1](#): > > > > this might not be the final look yet, just saying. > > I hope there is some kind of customization option or something and everybody can just pick what race they want to be. Like something similar to the system they have in Battlefront. yeah, that would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![PunisherTBL](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/punishertbl/32/102065_2.png) [@PunisherTBL](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PunisherTBL)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/6 "2016-07-01T04:06:00Z")
> [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](#): > > > [@WALKINGCORPSE1](#): > > > > this might not be the final look yet, just saying. > > I hope there is some kind of customization option or something and everybody can just pick what race they want to be. Like something similar to the system they have in Battlefront. I like that ---
**Author:** ![losingmyinsanity](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@losingmyinsanity](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/losingmyinsanity)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/7 "2016-07-01T05:04:00Z")
France and Britain’s armies were made up of colonial African soldiers fighting along side white French and British soldiers. France and Britain were very committed to racial equality more so then America and were able to recruit a mass amount of minorities. ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 6:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/8 "2016-07-01T06:35:00Z")
> [@derspots111](#): > > France and Britain’s armies were made up of colonial African soldiers fighting along side white French and British soldiers. France and Britain were very committed to racial equality more so then America and were able to recruit a mass amount of minorities. Far from it. - Both French and British used colonial troops as cannon fodder or assault hard combat points where large loss where expected. - British senior office where mostly White Anglican at the start but as those that utterly failed, left or died needed to be replaced better men for the job took those position. Example John Monash was born of German Jewish immigrants in Australia, yet early in the war part of the Media did not consider him British enough. - British keep units together from the area(culture) they where recruited. With the small population of different colour people in the UK, India, Canada, Australia and New Zealand was not large enough to form their own units. West indies, South Africa, North and South Rhodesia had battalion of both Black and White. - France only started mixing high level units(Division, Brigades) at battalion level due to losses. Britain had gone the other way where colonial units where pushed together creating the Australian and Canadian Corps. - As whites general had the money and thus the better education they where given the officers position. Thus why Black and Indian had white officers. - France and Canadian employed thousand of Chinese labourers to free up white people to fight, Britain just redeployed large number of Indian units as labourers. Someone need to build factories, roads and railways. - South Africa had white combat unit and black labour units in Europe. - British and South African official covered up disastrous loses in the East African campaign. Where well trained Black German troops routed newly recruited White South African troops all because Black = incompetence and White should be able to beat Black no matter the skill level. - Dark ie was a common term used amongst British troops. Yes, Germany did not use Colonial troops due to the blockades, but they did have small amount of black troops. Germany was not afraid to exploit racism with in their propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![dA\_9\_eL\_81](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/da_9_el_81/32/101026_2.png) [@dA\_9\_eL\_81](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dA_9_eL_81)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/9 "2016-07-01T07:00:00Z")
Batman confirmed! ---
**Author:** ![losingmyinsanity](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@losingmyinsanity](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/losingmyinsanity)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 7:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/10 "2016-07-01T07:42:00Z")
> [@DingoKillr](#): > > > [@derspots111](#): > > > > France and Britain’s armies were made up of colonial African soldiers fighting along side white French and British soldiers. France and Britain were very committed to racial equality more so then America and were able to recruit a mass amount of minorities. > > Far from it. > > - Both French and British used colonial troops as cannon fodder or assault hard combat points where large loss where expected. > - British senior office where mostly White Anglican at the start but as those that utterly failed, left or died needed to be replaced better men for the job took those position. Example John Monash was born of German Jewish immigrants in Australia, yet early in the war part of the Media did not consider him British enough. > - British keep units together from the area(culture) they where recruited. With the small population of different colour people in the UK, India, Canada, Australia and New Zealand was not large enough to form their own units. West indies, South Africa, North and South Rhodesia had battalion of both Black and White. > - France only started mixing high level units(Division, Brigades) at battalion level due to losses. Britain had gone the other way where colonial units where pushed together creating the Australian and Canadian Corps. > - As whites general had the money and thus the better education they where given the officers position. Thus why Black and Indian had white officers. > - France and Canadian employed thousand of Chinese labourers to free up white people to fight, Britain just redeployed large number of Indian units as labourers. Someone need to build factories, roads and railways. > - South Africa had white combat unit and black labour units in Europe. > - British and South African official covered up disastrous loses in the East African campaign. Where well trained Black German troops routed newly recruited White South African troops all because Black = incompetence and White should be able to beat Black no matter the skill level. > - Dark ie was a common term used amongst British troops. > > Yes, Germany did not use Colonial troops due to the blockades, but they did have small amount of black troops. Germany was not afraid to exploit racism with in their propaganda. Britian and German used them more so as cannon fodder then the French as most of the soldiers on “loan” stayed in France after the war because if how well they were treated. As far as making a point about the armies hierarchy, that may answer op’s question about the one token white guy lol. You are making generalized statements on war facts, which were true during the frist years of the war, but as the war progressed you did get mixed units (not many) because of how many casualties it brought. So it’s far from it. ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 8:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/11 "2016-07-01T08:18:00Z")
> [@derspots111](#): > > > [@DingoKillr](#): > > > > > [@derspots111](#): > > > > > > France and Britain’s armies were made up of colonial African soldiers fighting along side white French and British soldiers. France and Britain were very committed to racial equality more so then America and were able to recruit a mass amount of minorities. > > > > Far from it. > > > > - Both French and British used colonial troops as cannon fodder or assault hard combat points where large loss where expected. > > - British senior office where mostly White Anglican at the start but as those that utterly failed, left or died needed to be replaced better men for the job took those position. Example John Monash was born of German Jewish immigrants in Australia, yet early in the war part of the Media did not consider him British enough. > > - British keep units together from the area(culture) they where recruited. With the small population of different colour people in the UK, India, Canada, Australia and New Zealand was not large enough to form their own units. West indies, South Africa, North and South Rhodesia had battalion of both Black and White. > > - France only started mixing high level units(Division, Brigades) at battalion level due to losses. Britain had gone the other way where colonial units where pushed together creating the Australian and Canadian Corps. > > - As whites general had the money and thus the better education they where given the officers position. Thus why Black and Indian had white officers. > > - France and Canadian employed thousand of Chinese labourers to free up white people to fight, Britain just redeployed large number of Indian units as labourers. Someone need to build factories, roads and railways. > > - South Africa had white combat unit and black labour units in Europe. > > - British and South African official covered up disastrous loses in the East African campaign. Where well trained Black German troops routed newly recruited White South African troops all because Black = incompetence and White should be able to beat Black no matter the skill level. > > - Dark ie was a common term used amongst British troops. > > > > Yes, Germany did not use Colonial troops due to the blockades, but they did have small amount of black troops. Germany was not afraid to exploit racism with in their propaganda. > > Britian and German used them more so as cannon fodder then the French as most of the soldiers on “loan” stayed in France after the war because if how well they were treated. As far as making a point about the armies hierarchy, op ask why they were present in the game not who lead them, but you are correct here. > > You are making generalized statements on war facts, which were true during the frist years of the war, but as the war progressed you did get mixed units (not many) because of how many casualties it brought. So it’s far from it. Not only first year, it was happening thru out the war. I am not aware of any mixed unit smaller then a Battalion (up to 1000 men). If you know of any I would be interested. I know of the 10th Irish Division by the end of the war was a Mixed Division because the replacements where Indian battalion, that was due to the 10th being deployed in the Middle East and some Irish battalion where deployed to the Western Front. The French moved Colonial Battalion to the French units as replacement to stop the backlash of mixing white and black in the trenches. If you don’t believe the French used Colonial Troops as Cannon fodder you need to read more. There are article quoting French Generals that say that and facts like the higher causalities rates amongst Colonials, which is why the Colonial units where broken up. ---
**Author:** ![currentaffairs](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/currentaffairs/32/101596_2.png) [@currentaffairs](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/currentaffairs)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 8:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/12 "2016-07-01T08:30:00Z")
Maybe their not finished yet with all the animations for soldiers? ---
**Author:** ![losingmyinsanity](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@losingmyinsanity](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/losingmyinsanity)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 8:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/13 "2016-07-01T08:40:00Z")
France did use them as fodder, but not as frequently as the others. I read a story about a French troop literally fighting with a black soldier in a trench during a battle. I honestly want to say It was over who took a number 2 where they shouldn’t have, anyway for the most part France treated them way better. I’ll have to look for that, it was pretty funny story. ---
**Author:** ![XxgunjyguyxX](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/b9bd4f/32.png) [@XxgunjyguyxX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/XxgunjyguyxX)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 8:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/14 "2016-07-01T08:47:00Z")
**“- Both French and British used colonial troops as cannon fodder or assault hard combat points where large loss where expected.”** You make this sound bad like its racist when it isnt. The british had a professional army with highly trained soldiers with combat experience, why would you waste good men as cannon fodder it makes no sense, i also see nothing wrong with them willing to sacrifice peoples of other race and heritage other average joe british people. why would you send your own people to death as cannon fodder when you have colonies full of natives you could send? Sure this seems racist now but back then the world was not as globalist and being a nationalist is good. > [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](#): > > I’m looking incredibly forward to playing this game, and already have a preorder in, but what is up with pic related? You guys thought it was too ridiculous too include women as a playable model in multiplayer(which I agree, it is ridiculous), but then decide to make 75% of the British Armed forces minorities? Why is having women portrayed in this game anymore ridiculous than making the British military in ww1 out to be nothing but minorities with one single token white guy? What was your reasoning here? Diversity just for diversity’s sake is stupid. > > ![M6b9B6P.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/3/e/3e89698a95de4c193b32303837bc1142028138f4.jpeg) I agree its stupid, i dont doubt that the reason we have harlem hell fighters on the promotional art ect is for sake of diversity. Affirmative action is stupid, diversity for sake of diversity is stupid and social justice warriors are beyond stupid The left want whites to be ashamed of there culture and heritage, black pride is seen as good, gay pride is seen as good, but mention white pride and you get funny looks. ---
**Author:** ![JasR-86](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@JasR-86](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JasR-86)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 9:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/15 "2016-07-01T09:14:00Z")
> [@XxgunjyguyxX](#): > > The left want whites to be ashamed of there culture and heritage, black pride is seen as good, gay pride is seen as good, but mention white pride and you get funny looks. So much ignorance in one paragraph. ---
**Author:** ![PvtJohnTowle](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pvtjohntowle/32/103189_2.png) [@PvtJohnTowle](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PvtJohnTowle)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 9:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/16 "2016-07-01T09:18:00Z")
> [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](#): > > I’m looking incredibly forward to playing this game, and already have a preorder in, but what is up with pic related? You guys thought it was too ridiculous too include women as a playable model in multiplayer(which I agree, it is ridiculous), but then decide to make 75% of the British Armed forces minorities? Why is having women portrayed in this game anymore ridiculous than making the British military in ww1 out to be nothing but minorities with one single token white guy? What was your reasoning here? Diversity just for diversity’s sake is stupid. > > ![M6b9B6P.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/3/e/3e89698a95de4c193b32303837bc1142028138f4.jpeg) LOL the dude on the right is an Australian Soldier, many who died fighting on the Western Front, Never heard of us Aussies being referred to as “minorities” typical bloody yanks. One of the best Australian soldiers of WW1 was actually part Chinese and his name was Billy Sing. He was a sniper with over 150 kills at Gallipoli . Go learn your history before being a racist. > **[Billy Sing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Sing)** > > William Edward Sing, DCM (3 March 1886 – 19 May 1943), known as Billy Sing, was an Australian soldier of Chinese and English descent who served in the Australian Imperial Force during World War I, best known as a sniper during the Gallipoli Campaign..mw-parser-output .citation{word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}\[a\] He took at least 150 confirmed kills during that campaign, and may have had over 200 kills in total. Howev Sing was born o... [![Video: Billy Sing](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/9/a/9a8dfee9a2d498b3dae28920e31b18c3153f869c.jpeg "Billy Sing") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3oVr0CKU4o) ---
**Author:** ![Turban\_Legend80](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/turban_legend80/32/102395_2.png) [@Turban\_Legend80](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Turban_Legend80)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 9:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/17 "2016-07-01T09:21:00Z")
You got something against turbans mate? ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Paul\_Blart](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e9a140/32.png) [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Not_Paul_Blart)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 9:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/18 "2016-07-01T09:30:00Z")
> [@PvtJohnTowle](#): > > Never heard of us Aussies being referred to as “minorities” typical bloody yanks. Have you heard of black people being referred to as minorities before though? > [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > You got something against turbans mate? No. I’m a firm believer in the “always bring a towel” school of thought. ![aC3tMwD.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/b/a/ba31c709a1bb6585c190bed27286dcf338ce9a4d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trokey66/32/103889_2.png) [@Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Trokey66)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 9:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/19 "2016-07-01T09:46:00Z")
> [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](#): > > > [@PvtJohnTowle](#): > > > > Never heard of us Aussies being referred to as “minorities” typical bloody yanks. > > Have you heard of black people being referred to as minorities before though? > > > [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > > You got something against turbans mate? > > Image and comment removed because he is an idiot and post has been reported.[/img] Bellsniff detected! No doubt you voted Leave. Nothing fundementaly historically wrong with those depictions and I find bizarre that people are saying that ‘minorities’ were used as ‘fodder’ on the 100th anniversary of the start of the Somme. A Battle that saw over 1,000,000 men dead in just over 100 days. You people need to stop playing video games and go out and see life. ---
**Author:** ![PvtJohnTowle](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pvtjohntowle/32/103189_2.png) [@PvtJohnTowle](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PvtJohnTowle)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 9:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404/20 "2016-07-01T09:46:00Z")
> [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](#): > > > [@PvtJohnTowle](#): > > > > Never heard of us Aussies being referred to as “minorities” typical bloody yanks. > > > [@](#): > > > > Have you heard of black people being referred to as minorities before though? > > No this must be a typical yank term which is racially profiling. You post a photo with an Australian soldier and refer to us a minorities, which isn’t welcome and disrespectful but I expect nothing less from a yank because we all know you won the war single-handed. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-explain-yourself/102404.md?page=2)