# DICE - the luckiest FPS developer ever **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 22, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137 "2019-09-22T20:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MAJWolfcookies](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@MAJWolfcookies](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MAJWolfcookies)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/1 "2019-09-22T20:46:00Z")
Count your blessings that the competition sucks rn. You are so lucky that Activision and Infinity Ward suck this bad. Wow did they ever miss an opportunity to double tap BF franchise. ---
**Author:** ![BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BeastofBourbon84)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/2 "2019-09-22T20:59:00Z")
I met a buddy lately, the only one besides me who still plays battlefield in our friendlist and asked him why he still plays. The answer is simple “there is nothing else like it”. That’s pretty much how I see it too. Even with all the shortcomings and bugs there’s still no other game that comes close to the BF experience. ---
**Author:** ![YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/yourlocalplumber/32/103277_2.png) [@YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/YourLocalPlumber)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/3 "2019-09-22T21:05:00Z")
CoD MW2019 is a solid game. Its a typical CoD game that had been upgraded with much needed graphics, sound and animations. It completely craps on BF5’s weapon customizations. Gunplay feels solid, even though its instantly fells as CoD gunplay. Guns feel nice, animations look solid. My friends who quit BF5 are really enjoying MW2019. So am I. We will probably move to that until Bad Company 3 comes out next year. ---
**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/4 "2019-09-22T21:15:00Z")
It’s also allowed them to be complacent with no competition to push them to do better. ---
**Author:** ![BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BeastofBourbon84)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/5 "2019-09-22T21:44:00Z")
I’m sure quite a lot people will switch sides over to cod. It’s a new game and not much has been going on in bfv lately. Hell we are still waiting for proper bug fixes. Whenever I get fed up with BF V I just play something completely else. Sometime so I just want to relax and play a sp game. ---
**Author:** ![Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Matty101yttam)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/6 "2019-09-22T22:46:00Z")
> [@Noodlesocks](#): > > It’s also allowed them to be complacent with no competition to push them to do better. I’d argue that being competitive in game development is 1 factor that led us to this dismal state in gaming now. The other factor is corporate greed. When games where purely about making your game awesome…games were awesome. Worrying about what everyone else is doing and shoehorning other elements into games because the competition does it, hoping that it will increase purchases and satisfy shareholders is where it went pearshaped. ---
**Author:** ![YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/yourlocalplumber/32/103277_2.png) [@YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/YourLocalPlumber)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/7 "2019-09-22T23:03:00Z")
> [@Matty101yttam](#): > > > [@Noodlesocks](#): > > > > It’s also allowed them to be complacent with no competition to push them to do better. > > I’d argue that being competitive in game development is 1 factor that led us to this dismal state in gaming now. > The other factor is corporate greed. > When games where purely about making your game awesome…games were awesome. Worrying about what everyone else is doing and shoehorning other elements into games because the competition does it, hoping that it will increase purchases and satisfy shareholders is where it went pearshaped. I’d argue that copying someone just because they’re successful is not competition. Its straight up plagiarism. Competition is about making something that will blow everyone’s mind because its something unique and well executed so everyone wants to play it. Battlefield 1 was shining example of competition. CoD MW2019 is also looking as something very fresh in today’s market because we haven’t got any decent modern military FPS since BF4. Current state of gaming is where everyone and their dog is trying to copy PubG and Fortnight because they’re making billions. But thankfully, this trend is going away because hype around BR has died somewhat. So now devs will have more time developing something that they want instead of something that they’ve been told to develop by their boss. There hasn’t been any competition in the gaming world since aforementioned Battlefield 1. MW2019 will hopefully hit gaming industry in the ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ to bring some actual competition. MW 2019, Death Stranding, Cyberpunk 2077, Bad Company 3. Those are some games that will hopefully ignite gaming competition among devs to create quality games instead of pointless, fancy looking garbage that we’ve been getting in the past few years from EA and other major game publishers. ---
**Author:** ![Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Matty101yttam](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Matty101yttam)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/8 "2019-09-22T23:14:00Z")
I see what your getting at, but games are a form of art, and art is improved by having a clear vision and pursuing that vision, what other people do should not come into it. Sure wanting to do better than others is great but it shouldn’t be the focus, it detracts from creative thought, plagiarism is after all the inevitable outcome of unbridled competition. There has never been a competition ever where 1 person finding something that positively effects their performance hasn’t been copied by their competitors. ---
**Author:** ![Woodlbrad](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@Woodlbrad](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Woodlbrad)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/9 "2019-09-23T00:43:00Z")
Competition doesn’t suck cod will out sell this flop ez wouldn’t surprise me if the new cod breaks records cod always out sells battlefield. ---
**Author:** ![MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCamp121)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/10 "2019-09-23T00:59:00Z")
The lack of competition is the only reason i still log in and give this game playtime anymore. Never been a CoD fan, not my kind of game. Had hoped WW3 would do well but that flopped so..bfv it is unfortunately. I really wish i could enjoy this game but sadly.. ---
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/11 "2019-09-23T01:19:00Z")
COD hit it out of the park this year. Maybe it isn’t for you, but as someone who’s played both franchises since pretty much the beginning, the new MW has taken COD back to it’s routes, and it’s way better than it has been, and reminds me of those original, old CODs I loved. BFV by comparison is so weak, and I wish BFV could be to Battlefield what the new MW is the COD, reminding us what made the original games so great. ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/12 "2019-09-23T01:57:00Z")
> [@MAJWolfcookies](#): > > Count your blessings that the competition sucks rn. You are so lucky that Activision and Infinity Ward suck this bad. Wow did they ever miss an opportunity to double tap BF franchise. I am going to be optimistic and say they can turn this ship around. They have did it before. And I think BFV will be only Battlefield till late 2020 or perhaps 2021 so they have time. Honestly the ping issue is my only major complaint right now. After playing COD MW all weekend I played BFV last night and I couldn’t believe how much better Battlefield is at everything. I think I needed to play a true ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ before I could appreciate Battlefield. I can say I’m going to be more positive after experiencing MW. Lol ---
**Author:** ![PackersDK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@PackersDK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PackersDK)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/13 "2019-09-23T03:29:00Z")
COD still needs to be COD, it has a player base it needs to consider before it goes completely BF. I think it went as far as it could, or dared. The OP might not like it, but I’ve seen plenty of people saying they did. Either way, on a personal level, as someone who likes BF but dislikes BFV, I’m not particularly comforted by the fact that the competition is doing a bad job. I’d rather Dice did a good one. ---
**Author:** ![Titan\_Awaken](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/titan_awaken/32/103849_2.png) [@Titan\_Awaken](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Titan_Awaken)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/14 "2019-09-23T03:48:00Z")
That is an objectively false statement. The competition does not “suck”. If you look at the raw numbers, CoD has always outsold Battlefield with almost no exception. BF1 came very, very close in 2016 but unfortunately did not cut it. In terms of total sales across the franchise, BF doesn’t even come close to CoD. Whether you love or hate CoD, it’s obviously doing something right to average tens of millions of copies per entry annually. Meanwhile EA CEO Andrew Wilson himself exclaimed that BFV “did not meet sales expectations”. Keeping this in mind, do you still think the competition “suck(s)”? ---
**Author:** ![YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/yourlocalplumber/32/103277_2.png) [@YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/YourLocalPlumber)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 4:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/15 "2019-09-23T04:10:00Z")
> [@Titan\_Awaken](#): > > That is an objectively false statement. The competition does not “suck”. > > If you look at the raw numbers, CoD has always outsold Battlefield with almost no exception. BF1 came very, very close in 2016 but unfortunately did not cut it. In terms of total sales across the franchise, BF doesn’t even come close to CoD. > > Whether you love or hate CoD, it’s obviously doing something right to average tens of millions of copies per entry annually. Meanwhile EA CEO Andrew Wilson himself exclaimed that BFV “did not meet sales expectations”. > > Keeping this in mind, do you still think the competition “suck(s)”? BF and CoD are aimed at a completely different player demographics. CoD is much easier compared to BF. You completely turn off your brain while playing CoD. Sure you can do that in BF too, but people who are on the hunt with their “Spidey” senses cranked up will completely demolish you. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/16 "2019-09-23T04:23:00Z")
I saw some footage. i liked that one can actually see through those sights clearly in that mw2019. Some homework for dice ---
**Author:** ![YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/yourlocalplumber/32/103277_2.png) [@YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/YourLocalPlumber)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 5:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/17 "2019-09-23T05:23:00Z")
> [@Hawxxeye](#): > > I saw some footage. i liked that one can actually see through those sights clearly in that mw2019. Some homework for dice I think their intentioned behind tinted nydar sights was to “Give players a reason to use iron sights”. But as with many ideas in BF5, it failed. ---
**Author:** ![Wikstone](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/wikstone/32/104066_2.png) [@Wikstone](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Wikstone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 5:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/18 "2019-09-23T05:42:00Z")
> [@BeastofBourbon84](#): > > I met a buddy lately, the only one besides me who still plays battlefield in our friendlist and asked him why he still plays. > > The answer is simple “there is nothing else like it”. > > That’s pretty much how I see it too. > Even with all the shortcomings and bugs there’s still no other game that comes close to the BF experience. Cant wait Farm51 gets WW3 ready. ---
**Author:** ![MAJWolfcookies](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@MAJWolfcookies](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MAJWolfcookies)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 6:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/19 "2019-09-23T06:31:00Z")
> [@Titan\_Awaken](#): > > That is an objectively false statement. The competition does not “suck”. > > If you look at the raw numbers, CoD has always outsold Battlefield with almost no exception. BF1 came very, very close in 2016 but unfortunately did not cut it. In terms of total sales across the franchise, BF doesn’t even come close to CoD. > > Whether you love or hate CoD, it’s obviously doing something right to average tens of millions of copies per entry annually. Meanwhile EA CEO Andrew Wilson himself exclaimed that BFV “did not meet sales expectations”. > > Keeping this in mind, do you still think the competition “suck(s)”? The success of COD proves that the dumb people in this world greatly outnumber us intelligent people. The movie “Idiocracy” is indeed more of a prophecy than a classic movie. That being said, as I said previously, Activision and Infinity Ward really missed an opportunity to stomp on DICEs throat. MW plays like it was produced by a bunch of summer interns. It’s just like all of the other CODs but with more morons on your team. ---
**Author:** ![bunningsSnagz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@bunningsSnagz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bunningsSnagz)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 6:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137/20 "2019-09-23T06:39:00Z")
Well all i have to say is don’t formulate a rock solid opinion on a Beta. there’s still a while for Activision to make a lot of changes, especially to ground war. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/dice-the-luckiest-fps-developer-ever/254137.md?page=2)