# DISCUSSION : Battlefield™ Coins Megathread

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 5, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820 "2019-04-05T01:35:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LinkZeppeloyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/linkzeppeloyd/32/104893_2.png) [@LinkZeppeloyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LinkZeppeloyd)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/181 "2019-04-04T20:59:00Z")

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@TEKNOCODE

I’ll take that as a “we’ll see.” First, it just says “epic cosmetics.” Which doesn’t rule out Boins only “legendary” or whatever tier coz.

Second, it once again says “epic cosmetics” and not _all_ “epic cosmetics.” Leaving the same loophole which started this debate. You guys could just say “well the tweet only says epic cosmetics, not ALL epic cosmetics, no more no less.”

Third, it’s a tweet, from EA. Which to me carries little credibility.

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**Author:** ![Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trokey66/32/103889_2.png) [@Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Trokey66)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/182 "2019-04-04T21:03:00Z")

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> [@LinkZeppeloyd](#):
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> @TEKNOCODE
> 
> I’ll take that as a “we’ll see.” First, it just says “epic cosmetics.” Which doesn’t rule out Boins only “legendary” or whatever tier coz.
> 
> Second, it once again says “epic cosmetics” and not _all_ “epic cosmetics.” Leaving the same loophole which started this debate. You guys could just say “well the tweet only says epic cosmetics, not ALL epic cosmetics, no more no less.”
> 
> Third, it’s a tweet, from EA. Which to me carries little credibility.

And yet you are astounded that the flowchart is not accurate!

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**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/183 "2019-04-04T21:07:00Z")

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> [@Trokey66](#):
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> > [@LinkZeppeloyd](#):
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> > @TEKNOCODE
> > 
> > I’ll take that as a “we’ll see.” First, it just says “epic cosmetics.” Which doesn’t rule out Boins only “legendary” or whatever tier coz.
> > 
> > Second, it once again says “epic cosmetics” and not _all_ “epic cosmetics.” Leaving the same loophole which started this debate. You guys could just say “well the tweet only says epic cosmetics, not ALL epic cosmetics, no more no less.”
> > 
> > Third, it’s a tweet, from EA. Which to me carries little credibility.
> 
> And yet you are astounded that the flowchart is not accurate!

The only items that bfc will be required to purchase are the elite sets.

It was the same in siege too.

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**Author:** ![bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bran1986/32/101405_2.png) [@bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bran1986)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/184 "2019-04-04T21:25:00Z")

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> [@Halcyon\_Creed\_N7](#):
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> Wasn’t the whole point of microtransactions to fund further development and new content? Can’t sit here and complain about the supposed solution to the lack of maps.

Exactly. People whined about premium so DICE got rid of it in favor of paid cosmetics and now people are whining about paid cosmetics. Something that has absolutely no impact on the game in any shape or form but people still complain.

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**Author:** ![LinkZeppeloyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/linkzeppeloyd/32/104893_2.png) [@LinkZeppeloyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LinkZeppeloyd)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/185 "2019-04-04T21:33:00Z")

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> [@bran1986](#):
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> > [@Halcyon\_Creed\_N7](#):
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> > Wasn’t the whole point of microtransactions to fund further development and new content? Can’t sit here and complain about the supposed solution to the lack of maps.
> 
> Exactly. People whined about premium so DICE got rid of it in favor of paid cosmetics and now people are whining about paid cosmetics. Something that has absolutely no impact on the game in any shape or form but people still complain.

So why put out misleading charts and statements? Of course mtx pays for new stuff, that’s the Dead Service model.

The answer: EA knows that tricking children is big business (see, e.g., Fortnite, Fifa).

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**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/186 "2019-04-04T21:35:00Z")

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It was announced pretty much the same time the game was.

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**Author:** ![bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bran1986/32/101405_2.png) [@bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bran1986)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/187 "2019-04-04T21:35:00Z")

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> [@LinkZeppeloyd](#):
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> > [@bran1986](#):
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> > > [@Halcyon\_Creed\_N7](#):
> > >
> > > Wasn’t the whole point of microtransactions to fund further development and new content? Can’t sit here and complain about the supposed solution to the lack of maps.
> > 
> > Exactly. People whined about premium so DICE got rid of it in favor of paid cosmetics and now people are whining about paid cosmetics. Something that has absolutely no impact on the game in any shape or form but people still complain.
> 
> So why put out misleading charts and statements? Of course mtx pays for new stuff, that’s the Dead Service model.
> 
> The answer: EA knows that tricking children is big business (see, e.g., Fortnite, Fifa).

There was nothing misleading in the charts. DICE always said there would be cosmetics that could only be obtained through real money.

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**Author:** ![LinkZeppeloyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/linkzeppeloyd/32/104893_2.png) [@LinkZeppeloyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LinkZeppeloyd)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/188 "2019-04-04T21:38:00Z")

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> [@Trokey66](#):
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> > [@LinkZeppeloyd](#):
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> > @TEKNOCODE
> > 
> > I’ll take that as a “we’ll see.” First, it just says “epic cosmetics.” Which doesn’t rule out Boins only “legendary” or whatever tier coz.
> > 
> > Second, it once again says “epic cosmetics” and not _all_ “epic cosmetics.” Leaving the same loophole which started this debate. You guys could just say “well the tweet only says epic cosmetics, not ALL epic cosmetics, no more no less.”
> > 
> > Third, it’s a tweet, from EA. Which to me carries little credibility.
> 
> And yet you are astounded that the flowchart is not accurate!

I am? Please point out where I said that. I would never be even mildly surprised by EA lying. I’m defending the people who are new to EA, and thus don’t know yet that EA routinely lies. They were mislead by a misleading chart from a mendacious company. They (like you and I did at some point) will eventually learn the hard way.

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**Author:** ![IDirtY\_SeCreT](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ee7513/32.png) [@IDirtY\_SeCreT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IDirtY_SeCreT)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/189 "2019-04-04T21:44:00Z")

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> [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#):
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> Can you please point out where exactly is the lie?

Since nobody ever said that you can get every skin with CC. Looking at other games it’s totally normal but some people seem to be new to this…

P.S. I can get epic cosmetics with assignments so they’re telling the truth 😉 The chart might be misleading yes but it’s not a lie and I guess they asked their lawyers before releasing it.

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**Author:** ![LinkZeppeloyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/linkzeppeloyd/32/104893_2.png) [@LinkZeppeloyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LinkZeppeloyd)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/190 "2019-04-04T21:44:00Z")

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> [@bran1986](#):
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> > [@LinkZeppeloyd](#):
> >
> > > [@bran1986](#):
> > >
> > > > [@Halcyon\_Creed\_N7](#):
> > > >
> > > > Wasn’t the whole point of microtransactions to fund further development and new content? Can’t sit here and complain about the supposed solution to the lack of maps.
> > > 
> > > Exactly. People whined about premium so DICE got rid of it in favor of paid cosmetics and now people are whining about paid cosmetics. Something that has absolutely no impact on the game in any shape or form but people still complain.
> > 
> > So why put out misleading charts and statements? Of course mtx pays for new stuff, that’s the Dead Service model.
> > 
> > The answer: EA knows that tricking children is big business (see, e.g., Fortnite, Fifa).
> 
> There was nothing misleading in the charts. DICE always said there would be cosmetics that could only be obtained through real money.

But it is misleading, because it’s missing the “boins only” square. Of course you can weasel out of it by saying “well it doesn’t say ALL coz.”

Which is true. It also doesn’t say “some coz.” It’s ambiguous. They could have included the “boins only” square and… didn’t.

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**Author:** ![LinkZeppeloyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/linkzeppeloyd/32/104893_2.png) [@LinkZeppeloyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LinkZeppeloyd)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/191 "2019-04-04T22:02:00Z")

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> [@pest174](#):
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> I might purchase a skin if Boins were removed entirely. I really hate these digital currency schemes of having you pay more than what the item actually cost. 750 Boins for an epic skin but I can only buy incriminates of 500, which leaves you with 250 Boins. Can you purchase anything with 250? Nope. Guess you’ll have to purchase more Boins so that 250 doesn’t go to waste.
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> Screw that.
> 
> I got a little chuckle from noticing “most popular” sticky right above the $9.99 option.

Well, since you noticed the scam, you’re not the intended audience. I doubt ages 8-12 notice, and their parents certainly aren’t going to venture into gaming world to figure it out.

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**Author:** ![IDirtY\_SeCreT](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ee7513/32.png) [@IDirtY\_SeCreT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IDirtY_SeCreT)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/192 "2019-04-04T22:02:00Z")

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I’d go so far that they could have given a little amount of BC to deluxe buyers, like Ubi does with season pass owners. Would be fair due to EA ripping off customers with the lack of any significant deluxe content.

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**Author:** ![von\_Campenstein](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/von_campenstein/32/101003_2.png) [@von\_Campenstein](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/von_Campenstein)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/193 "2019-04-04T22:18:00Z")

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Wait a minute, two currencies, again!?!

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**Author:** ![Catsonspeeed](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/catsonspeeed/32/105521_2.png) [@Catsonspeeed](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Catsonspeeed)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/194 "2019-04-04T22:32:00Z")

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> [@SirBobdk](#):
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> Have taken a look at it.
> 
> Seriously, will any really spend money on this.

The pricing is absolutely ridiculous. For 49,95€ you get 6000 Boins. That’s enough to buy 8 Epic uniforms. Just eight! For a fifty. Even if you would get ALL the available and upcoming soldier uniforms, all the weapon and vehicle skins, I mean EVERYTHING, the price would still be waaay too high.

If they really thought that this is the way to finance the game, they have already failed miserably. They just overpriced themselves. Overpriced themselves out of the business.

Premium Model = One extra 50€ equals approx. 16 new maps, weapons, vehicles etc. Live Service Model = 8 soldier uniforms. 😂

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**Author:** ![LankRich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lankrich/32/106864_2.png) [@LankRich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LankRich)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/195 "2019-04-04T22:34:00Z")

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They’re giving such little incentive for players to buy deluxe for the next title they release. But I was really surprised that they didn’t offer anything with the latest update.

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**Author:** ![dinobass](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dinobass](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dinobass)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/196 "2019-04-04T22:36:00Z")

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I agree giving Deluxe buyers some bonus Boins would be a fair and right thing to do.

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**Author:** ![Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trokey66/32/103889_2.png) [@Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Trokey66)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/197 "2019-04-04T23:04:00Z")

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> [@Catsonspeeed](#):
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> SirBobdk said:  
> Have taken a look at it.  
> Seriously, will any really spend money on this.
> 
> The pricing is absolutely ridiculous. For 49,95€ you get 6000 Boins. That’s enough to buy 8 Epic uniforms. Just eight! For a fifty. Even if you would get ALL the available and upcoming soldier uniforms, all the weapon and vehicle skins, I mean EVERYTHING, the price would still be waaay too high.
> 
> If they really thought that this is the way to finance the game, they have already failed miserably. They just overpriced themselves. Overpriced themselves out of the business.
> 
> Premium Model = One extra 50€ equals approx. 16 new maps, weapons, vehicles etc. Live Service Model = 8 solider uniforms. 😂

Without a doubt, these skins are probably not worth it but…

Through that revenue, the maps that could be produced may be a different story.

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**Author:** ![Greeny\_Huwjarz](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/greeny_huwjarz/32/102119_2.png) [@Greeny\_Huwjarz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Greeny_Huwjarz)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/198 "2019-04-04T23:15:00Z")

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I don’t think that anyone in their right mind would or could argue that teh live service has been a success in ANY way, except to EA who charged premium prices for a game to many people and now don’t have to deliver any meaningful content going forwards.

The premium model was a guarantee to the consumer of content.

You can say that the quality will be bad, but all the BF DLC’s had really good maps worth playing. Out of 28 or so something maps, there are only 3 or 4 that I really don’t like much…

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**Author:** ![BFB-LeCharybdis](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bfb-lecharybdis/32/101325_2.png) [@BFB-LeCharybdis](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BFB-LeCharybdis)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/199 "2019-04-04T23:26:00Z")

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Haha I’ve just seen the epic skins, I was wrong the wall of Boin is fine, they’re all naff.

An STG with a couple of twigs stuck to it is what’s going to fund our new content? Hope everyone likes Panzerstorm

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**Author:** ![Greeny\_Huwjarz](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/greeny_huwjarz/32/102119_2.png) [@Greeny\_Huwjarz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Greeny_Huwjarz)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/discussion-battlefield-coins-megathread/106820/200 "2019-04-04T23:37:00Z")

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> [@Trokey66](#):
>
> > [@Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](#):
> >
> > Trokey66 said:  
> > Now let’s all go and complain about lack of content…
> > 
> > You see … that’s the problem. This community complained endlessly about buying maps, guns, vehicles and gadgets … so what made EA think that people would spend their money on cosmetics instead?
> > 
> > This game’s content delivery system was dependent on these ‘boins’ … which didn’t give me any confidence when I first heard about it, and I certainly don’t think it’s going to work now. If people whine about microtransactions in successful games like Rainbow Six Siege, Overwatch, Fortnite and even Warframe, why wouldn’t they complain about microtransactions on BFV of all things?
> 
> During many a ‘remove premium’ threads, one of the main alternatives suggest was Microtransctions for cosmetics and that is what we are getting.
> 
> It is arguable that given that ‘feedback’, EA/DICE were ‘justified’ in going down this route.
> 
> The main problem is, the ‘community’ can’t decide what it wants but complains when it gets it.
> 
> Ongoing content has to be fiscally viable for EA/DICE through either Premium or Microtransctions, we are getting the latter but there are now threads and post such as this that are stating that the ‘community’ shouldn’t buy Boins till ‘they fix the game’ and one of those ‘fixes’ is more content!

Nope. The community is clear on what it wants. A AAA title to be half decent. If the game had been good and the content had been flowing (say 5 or six maps by now as we could/should have REASONABLY expected following the patch of previous releases), then there would be less people upset that BOINS are in the game. Many here paid 80 Euros and more for this game,. and many posters here have played previous titles and EXPECT the content.

Its not that the community doesn’t know what it wants. We weren’t given a choice, and when you see BS like BOINS being developed when the core game is in such a mess, then it perfectly fair for consumers to be annoyed about the priorities.

Every time I load a game, I get a black screen and have to restart and it loads second time around. That is 6 months on and that sort of BS is still prevalent and yet we get BOINS and no new maps and bug fixes for the core game. Its simply not good enough.

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