I don’t have any issue with Elites being Boins-only, but I’m not a huge fan of the Epic skins only being unlockable through premium currency with no further official communication. I’m not saying they should be easy to buy with CC - perhaps 60-80k (I have been saying lower than that but I just realised that that price wasn’t really including the head piece) - but having an option or even an illusion of an option is nice, and might actually convince people to buy more skins with Boins (idk, I don’t study psychology but is that reverse psychology? Or do I need to see a psychologist?).
If that tweet refers to all or most epic skins, not just the ones that have been in the game since launch (max class rank assignment rewards), then I’m more onboard with the way the system works, but it should have been communicated more clearly and as the patch launched IMO. Currently the ‘Max class rank’ and ‘max weapon rank’ skins could easily just be referring to skins like The Scottish Play, Holy Ghost, Hades, Canis Horribalis and the Gold Plated weapon skins which are nothing new.
There are weapon max rank rewards, but you have to do assignments to get them. At level 5 you get the proficiency assignments for “Mint” skins and at level 10 (max rank) you get the mastery assignments for the “Gold” skins. You also get Urban Blue from levels 6-10.
Completely agree. It’s not the best way they could have implemented it, but it’s not exploitation - we are still getting new content, admittedly not at the best rate but it’s there. You can’t expect to buy a game for $50-60 with only small, mostly infrequent cosmetic purchases after that and get the same amount of post-launch content as a game where a decent portion of the playerbase bought a $50 premium pass as well as the initial purchase. Could they have released, and be releasing more gameplay content even using this model? Yes, and I think that should definitely be their main focus going forward (not just that they continue to make more content, but they try to find a way to increase the amount of content they’re putting out).
But that’s just the way a live service game will recieve content - you won’t get as much content, or not in big drops, but it’s free once you buy the game and you can choose to support development with cosmetic purchases or whatever. Combine this with the fact that the game had a pretty awful pre-launch marketing campaign which was not very well thought out and was recieved badly, leading to less initial purchases, plus some slightly questionable choices which were taken massively out of proportion by some people who fit the stereotype of gamers being… well, hating minorities, and you get a less than stellar launch with no further income, and you’re never going to get as much content as a premium model. (Note that I know some people take everything personally on the Internet, so I wasn’t directly referring to anyone reading this with my statement about the stereotype - but you can’t deny that it’s true in regards to this game).
Like most children when they see a neighbor getting a new toy that they don’t have, they feel slighted. It’s a difficult position they’re put into as they don’t fully understand why others are allowed to have things that they don’t. They attempt to rationalize a semblance of “fair” or “equal” treatment but lack a fully developed worldview to truly appreciate what it means to work for earnings, and in trade spend said earnings towards luxury goods.
Money has to be generated somehow if we are to see more content added to the game.
I personally would pay for maps, but I’m not much inclined to pay $7-8 for a weapon skins. Just doesn’t seem like an equivalent value.
Because it costs me 8 quid for a single skin. It’s not worth it.
Think about it, people who spend real money on cosmetics would do that anyway, even if epic and elite skins were available for CC, they are not ready to grind as much as we do anyway, they don’t care. Instead, DICE just flipped us off for all our dedication and support to the game. I’m fully done this time.
PREFACE: Yes there’s already a lot of threads. Yes it’s been talked about. Just walk on by or ignore it if it inflames your anuus just to read this… haha
I agree full-heartedly with Westie here -
It’s not about getting stuff for free. It’s about rewarding players for playing your game, and they’re more likely to purchase more things from you when you establish quality and trust.
(See Star Wars Battlefield II setup for a better model… the. same. dev. studio. hmmm…)
Disappointed but for slightly different reasons.
I love this game and have since launch. It’s the only game Ive played since release, but I work 75-80 hours a week and have a family life on top of that. This leaves me with little time to grind for CC and have only been able to hoard 19k (after weapon specialization for guns I use)
I was sincerely hoping that I could purchase skins
with boins straight from the “my company” menu and be able to get the “wacht an rihen” skin for the panzer IV, something I’ve wanted since tank skins where added.
I can’t really dump all the cc Ive earned on the skin and then be screwed for cool guns that I want to use effectively later on. I do understand that to squeeze the most money out of the store they have to do limited time rotations with new cosmetic items, but I’m willing to shell out cash for the specific items I want.
Truthfully I do like alot of the new cosmetics that where introduced, or more rather specific parts of full sets (like the poncho zeltbahn and the tanker earmuffs/hearing protection) and have purchased them yet I’m still disappointed that I can’t get specifically one item I’ve been looking at for months
I do think they may have missed a trick here in that you have to buy the whole set. It would perhaps have been better if each item was sold separately with, perhaps, a discount for buying the whole set.
As of right now we do not have almost anything good to spend the company coins at.
Would getting an epic/elite item for like 100 thousand Company coins break the marketability of the BFC?
Why do we even have the Company Coins which only served to slow down the upgrading of weapons and vehicles if they are to be useless outside of upgrades and mostly plain cosmetics?
Preordered and payed for Deluxe Edition, and a couple of weeks later game went on sale. Airdrops and what was in them was a bad joke, personally I feel cheated .
Epic skins for BC only, sorry EA/DICE not a dime more from me, you can keep your Epic skins.
And another thing, all other BR games have some sort of reward for winning (unique skins, coins, …) and what u get in Firestorm, big fat nothing.
Lesson learned, last time I preorder anything from EA.
Hey folks, it’s understandable that not everyone is going to like BOIN’s or how they’re implemented and that some will have a negative opinion of them, that’s fine, everyone is entitled to have their opinion and discuss it but keep the comments constructive let’s keep the discussion as healthy, on topic and on point as possible
I might be remembering things wrong but i thought all cosmetics were going to be able to be unlocked via company coin and that there weren’t going to be any special you must pay real money cosmetics to get?
Could you please explain why you are deleting comments from people who are not agreeing with your strategy of locking all items that look OK behind a paywall, leaving only the ones nobody would buy for company coin (when you let everyone believe everything would be purchaseable by company coins too)?
The people leaving these comments, are people who bought your game, believing your promises. They are your playerbase.
Nobody is “deleting” anything.
For starters, We have an anti-spam filter in place ( Askimet ) and it is plausible that comments are getting flagged by it as spam until a moderator goes into the queue and verifies they are not spam.
We do not remove comments either for, Or against the implementation of BOINS.
We are not a dictatorship where you absolutely MUST post everything entirely positive, We take all feedback into consideration, Be it negative or otherwise.
We simply ask that IF people want to post negative feedback, That it be done so in a productive and valuable way.
I’m sorry but you either don’t know what your colleagues are doing, or you are lying.
I had 2 comments in this thread that got deleted, and one of them was my honest opinion that $7.50 for a weapon skin in a game that is not free to play is hilarious. Is that comment spam? Because it no longer exists, it was removed in less than 30 mins of me posting it.
Also, this thread had 16 pages yesterday, later that night it was down to 13.
@Brenex
I am fully aware that the spam filter does actually filter posts that are not spam.
There are many instances where myself or other mods are tagged in threads to approve posts that the anti-spam filter was triggered.