# Do we have cheaters? **URL:** \ **Category:** Console\ **Created:** [December 9, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/do-we-have-cheaters/108192 "2018-12-09T02:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Prep768](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/prep768/32/103163_2.png) [@Prep768](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Prep768)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 7:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/do-we-have-cheaters/108192/21 "2018-12-10T07:28:00Z")
> [@The\_BERG\_366](#): > > > [@Prep768](#): > > > > > [@The\_BERG\_366](#): > > > > > > > [@Jayremie570](#): > > > > > > > > No hacks on console. Mnk on console is not cheating seeing as ps says its ok and licenses their own to hori to make. Complete with ps logo. > > > > > > can we stop spreading this bs? third party equipment that alter input violates the tos as pointed out multiple times before. Sony never made a statement that its OK. the pure fact that they distribute their own converter doesn’t mean that they are OK with people using ANY converter. > > > furtherly Sony isn’t deciding this by themselves but it’s rather relevant what both Sony and a games developer say. ultimately if dice is not ok with it, it’s not OK. they make the rules for their games… > > > > So m&k is cheating? > > not necessarily. my issue is that people keep claiming that mnks are perfectly fine without taking any specific information into account purely based on the fact that psn licensed the hori tac Pro. but this is not a valid argumentation. > > about the tos part: I simply mentioned that to underline the point that I made. clearly its not all perfectly fine and people who complain just make things up. > whether it’s cheating or not is a different question though. things aren’t necessarily cheating just because they violate some tos. conversely, something is not defined to be not cheating just because it doesn’t violate some tos… Understood [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/do-we-have-cheaters/108192.md?page=1)