# Do you have High DPC Latency & Stutter In BF1? Do you also use a PCI-E Riser Cable? Read Below. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 16, 2018, 7:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/do-you-have-high-dpc-latency-stutter-in-bf1-do-you-also-use-a-pci-e-riser-cable-read-below/103355 "2018-03-16T07:00:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 9
**Author:** ![SneakyGunman](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@SneakyGunman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SneakyGunman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/do-you-have-high-dpc-latency-stutter-in-bf1-do-you-also-use-a-pci-e-riser-cable-read-below/103355/9 "2018-03-21T16:29:00Z")
> [@bass-junkie-xl](#): > > > [@SneakyGunman](#): > > > > > [@bass-junkie-xl](#): > > > > > > so i ran 3d mark fire strike defult pre set ( 720 p ) scored 2134 points higher then all the gtx 1080ti reviews i read example , guru 3d oc3d ect > > > alsi in 1080p high and 1440p extreme and scored over 1876 points higher then all 1080ti reviews i read on the card . > > > > > > card was in pci x 16 @ 3 x 8.0 for tests no issues > > > > > > ran metro 2033 last light redux benchmark 1080p , 1440p , 4k beat all scores on the review sites > > > ran 3d mark 06 > > > > > > ran user benchmark and all my parts scored 150 + % better on all tests . > > > > > > nothign is wrong with the riser card just card is kicking out of 16 x down to 8 x 3.0 some times . > > > > > > other game run fine . > > > > > > this game stutters no matter what u have and im done with it lol . i shut the graph off and i play bf4 and escape from tarkov alot more now . > > > > > > i have new riser card coming tommorw to see if it makes card go to pci x 16 x 3.0 vs 16 x @ 8 x 3.0 ( now ) . > > > > > > paschindale stutters like a 1 gb video card this game is pushed to its limits frame times suck . i still ove the game the last 3 patches wrecked optomization imo yes fps is 165 yes no servuices yes evrything is fine its the game . > > > > Any particular reason why you wouldn’t remove the riser cable once you realized you were having a pci x16/x8 issue on boot up? > > Usually that’s the first thing someone would do to make sure their card and motherboard is working correctly. > > Since you upgraded that would be something eliminate as you would/should still be under warranty. Perhaps store warranty for exchange/return. In any case post back once you get your new riser cable. > > Also, what made you OC your ram? DId you up the voltage past 1.35V? > > \*update \* replaced my pci x 16 3.0 thermal take riser card today with the same one just bran new . > > the pc when booting up in to bios asus gpu post in bios shows a picture of my pci x slots with the 1080ti in slot 1 @ pci x 16 3.0 now ( it didnt before with old riser ) > > went to advanced tab under pcix settings and board says nvidia 1080ti running @ 16 x 3.0 ( it said 8x before with old riser ) note : doesnt matter if i set pci x gen 3 or not on old riser > > ok sweet now thats fixed rebooted pc 15 times to see if it would kick back to pci x 16 @ 8 x 3.0 like it was before and nope always 16 x 3.0 now . > > note : the old riser card ran fine 3d mark 06 , new 3d mark , games benchmarks , alt tabing , and over clocking to 2040 mhz core on the 1080ti on the old riser > produced 0 problems all my benchmarks scores comparing with guru 3d , over clock .net of the same card and same benchmarks i scored over 2134 points more then they did on this old riser card . > > and yes battle field 1 still stutters and has cpu spikes with new riser card lmao ( not that i thought a new riser card would make cpu spikes go away anyways rofl ) > > your question about my ram yes i over clocked it > > - and yes i ran it @ stock xmp 3000 and defult 2133 in games and mem test 86 before even over clocking it ) same spikes ( duh its the engine ) > > the kit i have is the g.skill RGB 16gb 2x8 gb stick of xmp 3000 mhz timings 14-14-14-34 1.35v @ manual 4000 mhz 1.4 v timings 18-19-19-39 system agent @1.2v vccio @ 1.21v ran mem test for 24 hrs , hci mem test for 2000 % coverage , prime blend all passed no errors got a nice boost in minimum fps in games and some other games run smoother. > > the g.skill are Samsung bdie best for over clocking hynix based ram are not good for over clocking . > > most g.skill 3000 cl 14 , 3200 cl 14 , 3200 cl15 ,3466,15 ,3600 cl 15 and 3600 cl16 are Samsung bdie they over clock stupid high and or super tight timings if you got a good board . > > i got the asus x hero z370 as it can do upwards of 4400 mhz ram speed i got up to 4266 but had loose timings and aidia 64 memory benchmark gave me higher #s @ 4000 cl 18 vs 4266 cl 19 @ 1.45v . * * * You are still dogging my question, “Why haven’t you tested your video card without the riser cable?” You need a base value to know how well the new riser cable is working for you. * * * ## [Link to section: I wanted you to see that even though you still could ‘boot up’ your PC and ‘play games’ doesn’t mean that your PC is as stable as it is intended to be. In your case your riser cable prevented you from](#p-143254-i-wanted-you-to-see-that-even-though-you-still-could-boot-up-your-pc-and-play-games-doesnt-mean-that-your-pc-is-as-stable-as-it-is-intended-to-be-in-your-case-your-riser-cable-prevented-you-from-having-pci-x16-30-you-see-a-pc-is-still-dynamic-enough-to-compensate-for-issues-arising-from-or-in-relation-to-emirfi-slightly-faulty-components-etc-to-a-certain-degree-which-can-and-will-dynamically-effect-the-true-performance-of-the-pc-until-its-corrected-or-the-problem-overcomes-the-pc-and-it-fails-1)I wanted you to see that even though you still could ‘boot up’ your PC and ‘play games’ doesn’t mean that your PC is as stable as it is intended to be. In your case your riser cable prevented you from having PCI x16 @ 3.0. You see, a PC is still dynamic enough to compensate for issues arising from or in relation to EMI/RFI, slightly faulty components, etc to a certain degree. Which can and will dynamically effect the true performance of the PC until it’s corrected or the problem overcomes the PC and it fails. ## [Link to section: This is where I see you fit in with your setup (including some of the tweaks you mentioned such as PCI Riser Cable, OC Ram, HPET tweaks, etc). The issues you are experiencing wasn’t enough to prevent](#p-143254-this-is-where-i-see-you-fit-in-with-your-setup-including-some-of-the-tweaks-you-mentioned-such-as-pci-riser-cable-oc-ram-hpet-tweaks-etc-the-issues-you-are-experiencing-wasnt-enough-to-prevent-you-from-from-booting-the-pc-nor-prevent-you-from-playing-bf1-however-it-was-enough-to-negatively-effect-the-true-performance-of-your-higher-end-pc-i-believe-that-you-didnt-believe-such-a-thing-existed-so-i-created-this-thread-to-show-you-2)This is where I see you fit in with your setup (including some of the tweaks you mentioned such as PCI Riser Cable, OC Ram, HPET tweaks, etc). The issues you are experiencing wasn’t enough to prevent you from from booting the PC nor prevent you from playing BF1. However it was enough to negatively effect the true performance of your higher end PC. I believe that you didn’t believe such a thing existed. So I created this thread to show you. ## [Link to section: Now, I’ve read your replies and even though you do get defensive about your PC I still wanted to offer you some help in fixing at least 1 of your problems. If you didn’t notice already this thread is](#p-143254-now-ive-read-your-replies-and-even-though-you-do-get-defensive-about-your-pc-i-still-wanted-to-offer-you-some-help-in-fixing-at-least-1-of-your-problems-if-you-didnt-notice-already-this-thread-is-for-you-your-welcome-it-wasnt-a-coincidence-and-by-its-history-at-the-time-of-my-post-no-one-else-has-come-in-claiming-the-same-exact-problem-as-you-although-it-would-apply-to-them-if-they-ventured-here-with-a-similar-setup-3)Now, I’ve read your replies and even though you do get defensive about your PC I still wanted to offer you some help in fixing at least 1 of your problems. If you didn’t notice already this thread **is** for you. Your Welcome :). It wasn’t a coincidence. And by it’s history (at the time of my post) no one else has come in claiming the same exact problem as you. Although it would apply to them if they ventured here with a similar setup. ## [Link to section: You should continue to trouble shoot whatever existing issues you have that is preventing you from playing BF1. This is what PC Enthusiast do. I certainly didn’t see you as otherwise with all the work](#p-143254-you-should-continue-to-trouble-shoot-whatever-existing-issues-you-have-that-is-preventing-you-from-playing-bf1-this-is-what-pc-enthusiast-do-i-certainly-didnt-see-you-as-otherwise-with-all-the-work-you-put-into-creating-your-pc-setup-there-is-a-level-of-passion-for-it-4)You should continue to trouble shoot whatever existing issues you have that is preventing you from playing BF1. This is what PC Enthusiast do. I certainly didn’t see you as otherwise with all the work you put into creating your PC Setup. There is a level of passion for it. ## [Link to section: So far the only real issue are the spikes you are mentioned. Although, to me, it doesn’t mean anything unless it actually effects game play. Perhaps a combination of: -Returning to Win10 1709 at it’s](#p-143254-so-far-the-only-real-issue-are-the-spikes-you-are-mentioned-although-to-me-it-doesnt-mean-anything-unless-it-actually-effects-game-play-perhaps-a-combination-of-returning-to-win10-1709-at-its-default-settings-place-the-ram-to-its-original-speed-rating-using-xmp-profile-along-with-the-latest-chipset-and-gpu-drivers-and-try-a-60hz-monitor-the-amount-of-tweaking-you-need-to-use-a-165hz-monitor-is-intriguing-reverting-any-other-tweaks-may-actually-fix-that-issue-5)So far the only real issue are the spikes you are mentioned. Although, to me, it doesn’t mean anything unless it actually effects game play. Perhaps a combination of: -Returning to Win10 1709 at it’s default settings -Place the ram to it’s original speed rating (using XMP profile) -Along with the latest chipset and gpu drivers -And try a 60Hz monitor The amount of tweaking you need to use a 165Hz monitor is intriguing. -Reverting any other tweaks may actually fix that issue ## [Link to section: To add prospective I, as well as others, are not having the same issue as you. And some that actually do have problems with BF1 actually have a much lower spec’d PC then you. But, at the same time the](#p-143254-to-add-prospective-i-as-well-as-others-are-not-having-the-same-issue-as-you-and-some-that-actually-do-have-problems-with-bf1-actually-have-a-much-lower-specd-pc-then-you-but-at-the-same-time-there-are-those-that-dont-have-your-problems-but-still-have-a-much-lower-specd-pc-then-you-check-out-the-link-below-proof-zero-cpu-spikes-in-bf1-is-possibletproof-zero-cpu-spikes-in-bf1-is-possible103353-6)To add prospective I, as well as others, are not having the same issue as you. And some that actually do have problems with BF1 actually have a much lower spec’d PC then you. But, at the same time there are those that don’t have your problems but still have a much lower spec’d PC then you. Check out the link below. [Proof zero CPU spikes in BF1 is possible](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/proof-zero-cpu-spikes-in-bf1-is-possible/103353) ## [Link to section: I am not going to say that BF1 doesn’t have issues. However, what online game doesn’t? And what online FPS game out there that doesn’t offering 64 player servers? Most that do offer far less per map t](#p-143254-i-am-not-going-to-say-that-bf1-doesnt-have-issues-however-what-online-game-doesnt-and-what-online-fps-game-out-there-that-doesnt-offering-64-player-servers-most-that-do-offer-far-less-per-map-then-bf1-on-the-pc-7)I am not going to say that BF1 doesn’t have issues. However, what online game doesn’t? And what online FPS game out there that doesn’t offering 64 player servers? Most that do offer far less per map then BF1 on the PC. ## [Link to section: I think it’s important that you realize that by pointing the finger at BF1 you have 3 more point at your higher end system showing others it’s not worth the cost of admission. This bothers me because](#p-143254-i-think-its-important-that-you-realize-that-by-pointing-the-finger-at-bf1-you-have-3-more-point-at-your-higher-end-system-showing-others-its-not-worth-the-cost-of-admission-this-bothers-me-because-i-know-having-a-top-shelf-pc-setup-with-win10-latest-addition-offers-vastly-superior-performance-vs-a-low-console-however-by-your-testimony-you-inadvertently-set-a-precedent-that-even-with-a-high-end-pc-setup-a-console-is-the-better-option-as-there-are-less-issues-which-a-flat-out-lie-8)I think it’s important that you realize that by pointing the finger at BF1 you have 3 more point at your higher end system showing others it’s not worth the cost of admission. This bothers me because I know having a ‘top shelf’ PC setup with win10 latest addition offers vastly superior performance vs a low console. However, by your testimony, you inadvertently set a precedent that even with a high end PC setup a console is the better option as there are “less” issues. Which a flat out lie. ## [Link to section: This response to you is not intended to challenge your ability to build a PC. However, I do want you to realize that -other are not having the issues you are having -you do have problems with your set](#p-143254-this-response-to-you-is-not-intended-to-challenge-your-ability-to-build-a-pc-however-i-do-want-you-to-realize-that-other-are-not-having-the-issues-you-are-having-you-do-have-problems-with-your-setup-that-are-easily-corrected-i-have-taken-interest-in-seeing-that-you-get-the-best-possible-enjoyment-in-bf1-by-offer-you-some-help-i-do-like-your-setup-btw-9)This response to you is not intended to challenge your ability to build a PC. However, I do want you to realize that -other are not having the issues you are having -you do have problems with your setup that are easily corrected -I have taken interest in seeing that you get the best possible enjoyment in BF1 by offer you some help. I do like your setup BTW. I do hope to read one day that you’ve overcome your problem. Good News is always a welcome. Enjoy! 🙂 --- _[View the full topic](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/do-you-have-high-dpc-latency-stutter-in-bf1-do-you-also-use-a-pci-e-riser-cable-read-below/103355)._