# Duos removed, seriously!? **URL:** \ **Category:** Firestorm\ **Created:** [May 10, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682 "2019-05-10T18:15:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![GirthQQuakes](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e36b37/32.png) [@GirthQQuakes](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GirthQQuakes)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 8:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/41 "2019-05-11T08:48:00Z")
North America ---
**Author:** ![KPNuts74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/848f3c/32.png) [@KPNuts74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KPNuts74)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/42 "2019-05-11T09:11:00Z")
> [@GirthQQuakes](#): > > North America Was it unsociable hours? Never heard of this scenario in NA before. ---
**Author:** ![MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCamp121)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/43 "2019-05-11T13:06:00Z")
> [@KPNuts74](#): > > > [@MrCamp121](#): > > > > > [@KPNuts74](#): > > > > > > > [@MrCamp121](#): > > > > > > > > > [@KPNuts74](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@brooklynborn91](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys are ruining this game. Duos is all anyone played, squads are horrible, and noone uses a mic. How can you not keep duos as a permanent game mode? You guys have trash servers on this game and yet we DIEHARD FANS still stick around. Im sorry, if you dont bring duos back ALOT of people along with myself and family members will stop playing this game entirely > > > > > > > > > > I personally love playing squad with friends most and DICE is reacting to actual server stats (rather than you just saying everyone just played duos…) > > > > > > > > Dice doesnt respond to server nothin. Which is why every game mode they bring out is 2 weeks and they toss it aside regardless of how popular it is > > > > > > It would make no sense for them to do that. If a mode generates the player count, they would keep it going. > > > > So..rush? Grind? Both were highly popular. Explain > > Please provide the stats to prove those modes were popular enough to keep servers full long term. No, you don’t have them, all you have is your opinion and whiny posts from the vocal negative playerbase. DICE have the stats to help them make decisions. Yep just like they had “stats” to go all SJW from launch ---
**Author:** ![MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCamp121)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/44 "2019-05-11T13:07:00Z")
> [@MrCamp121](#): > > > [@KPNuts74](#): > > > > > [@MrCamp121](#): > > > > > > > [@KPNuts74](#): > > > > > > > > > [@MrCamp121](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@KPNuts74](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@brooklynborn91](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys are ruining this game. Duos is all anyone played, squads are horrible, and noone uses a mic. How can you not keep duos as a permanent game mode? You guys have trash servers on this game and yet we DIEHARD FANS still stick around. Im sorry, if you dont bring duos back ALOT of people along with myself and family members will stop playing this game entirely > > > > > > > > > > > > I personally love playing squad with friends most and DICE is reacting to actual server stats (rather than you just saying everyone just played duos…) > > > > > > > > > > Dice doesnt respond to server nothin. Which is why every game mode they bring out is 2 weeks and they toss it aside regardless of how popular it is > > > > > > > > It would make no sense for them to do that. If a mode generates the player count, they would keep it going. > > > > > > So..rush? Grind? Both were highly popular. Explain > > > > Please provide the stats to prove those modes were popular enough to keep servers full long term. No, you don’t have them, all you have is your opinion and whiny posts from the vocal negative playerbase. DICE have the stats to help them make decisions. > > Yep just like they had “stats” to go all SJW from launch Funny how that..and everything else backfires despite these “stats” ---
**Author:** ![JZAB15](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/858c86/32.png) [@JZAB15](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JZAB15)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/45 "2019-05-11T15:39:00Z")
> [@KPNuts74](#): > > > [@JZAB15](#): > > > > KPNuts74 said: > > > > Please provide the stats to prove those modes were popular enough to keep servers full long term. No, you don’t have them, all you have is your opinion and whiny posts from the vocal negative playerbase. DICE have the stats to help them make decisions. > > I doubt that the removal of game modes has anything to do with stats. It’s a part of the Tides of War gimmick to add “fresh” content from time to time. Rush has been a staple of this series for over a decade and yet its gone before it had a chance. There’s maybe one half full domination server on PC, why not remove that gamemode (they shouldn’t)? > > You already replied this earlier. It didn’t submit before for some reason. My mistake ---
**Author:** ![TheNoobPolice](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheNoobPolice](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheNoobPolice)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/46 "2019-05-11T16:39:00Z")
> [@meh20382](#): > > > [@TheNoobPolice](#): > > > > That’s exactly what they do. DICE has seen people switch to squad mode in higher numbers. It’s cold hard data they have at the end of the day, they’re not guessing. > > > > The idea that people go, “I can’t play duos now so I’m just gonna not play anymore”, is ridiculous. What actually happens in general is they just queue up with their buddy and play in a squad. > > Hi, I’m a duos player. Only play with my cousin. I haven’t played Firestorm since they removed duos. I’ve played squad before. It’s not fun with two randoms. No mics, they don’t share loot, they go off and die and reveal my position. If I happen survive my cousin and I get destroyed by a full squad. Real fun, I know. When duos came out, it was a blessing. The idea of me not playing Firestorm now is not ridiculous, its fact. _sigh_ Unfortunately, it’s well understood within social sciences that people who attempt to refute a factual general statement with a sample size of “one” generally have low intelligence. Example “On average, women are shorter than men” Idiot “well, I’m a tall woman!” Me: Facepalm. In case you don’t get the point, the fact that you, or someone that bothers to reply on here says it’s not the case is not at all relevant. They have the data and can see what player trends are doing. If this change meant people overall would stop playing the game, then they wouldn’t be making it. I don’t always agree with DICE’s design decisions but they are far from stupid. ---
**Author:** ![danosta](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@danosta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/danosta)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/47 "2019-05-11T16:56:00Z")
> [@TheNoobPolice](#): > > meh20382 said: > > TheNoobPolice wrote: » > That’s exactly what they do. DICE has seen people switch to squad mode in higher numbers. It’s cold hard data they have at the end of the day, they’re not guessing. > > The idea that people go, “I can’t play duos now so I’m just gonna not play anymore”, is ridiculous. What actually happens in general is they just queue up with their buddy and play in a squad. > > Hi, I’m a duos player. Only play with my cousin. I haven’t played Firestorm since they removed duos. I’ve played squad before. It’s not fun with two randoms. No mics, they don’t share loot, they go off and die and reveal my position. If I happen survive my cousin and I get destroyed by a full squad. Real fun, I know. When duos came out, it was a blessing. The idea of me not playing Firestorm now is not ridiculous, its fact. > > _sigh_ > > Unfortunately, it’s well understood within social sciences that people who attempt to refute a factual general statement with a sample size of “one” generally have low intelligence. > > Example “On average, women are shorter than men” > > Idiot “well, I’m a tall woman!” > > Me: Facepalm. > > In case you don’t get the point, the fact that you, or someone that bothers to reply on here says it’s not the case is not at all relevant. They have the data and can see what player trends are doing. If this change meant people overall would stop playing the game, then they wouldn’t be making it. I don’t always agree with DICE’s design decisions but they are far from stupid. Ok mr einstein business expert, name one good decision dice has made with this game. Its been an embarassing disaster since the beta. ---
**Author:** ![FritzCT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/fritzct/32/102007_2.png) [@FritzCT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FritzCT)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/48 "2019-05-11T17:32:00Z")
> [@TheNoobPolice](#): > > > [@meh20382](#): > > > > > [@TheNoobPolice](#): > > > > > > [»] > > > That’s exactly what they do. DICE has seen people switch to squad mode in higher numbers. It’s cold hard data they have at the end of the day, they’re not guessing. > > > > > > The idea that people go, “I can’t play duos now so I’m just gonna not play anymore”, is ridiculous. What actually happens in general is they just queue up with their buddy and play in a squad. > > > > Hi, I’m a duos player. Only play with my cousin. I haven’t played Firestorm since they removed duos. I’ve played squad before. It’s not fun with two randoms. No mics, they don’t share loot, they go off and die and reveal my position. If I happen survive my cousin and I get destroyed by a full squad. Real fun, I know. When duos came out, it was a blessing. The idea of me not playing Firestorm now is not ridiculous, its fact. > > _sigh_ > > Unfortunately, it’s well understood within social sciences that people who attempt to refute a factual general statement with a sample size of “one” generally have low intelligence. > > Example “On average, women are shorter than men” > > Idiot “well, I’m a tall woman!” > > Me: Facepalm. > > In case you don’t get the point, the fact that you, or someone that bothers to reply on here says it’s not the case is not at all relevant. They have the data and can see what player trends are doing. If this change meant people overall would stop playing the game, then they wouldn’t be making it. I don’t always agree with DICE’s design decisions but they are far from stupid. You speak of low intelligence yet fail to note that the poster is speaking in first person singular and stating what HE will do (or not in this case). At no point does he generalise about the player base, he simply states his personal preference. The same is true of your self written example. The “idiot” states “well, I’m a tall woman!”. That’s written as a statement of fact not a statement disputing the average claimed. For the latter to be true the “idiot” would say “well, I’m a tall woman so that can’t be true”. So even your own example is flawed which makes me wonder who “idiot” refers to. I’m sure DICE’s data is correct and the majority of players prefer to play squad but the key word is majority. This decision is going to alienate some (meh20382 for one) and in a game that is haemorrhaging players at the rate this one is it makes no sense unless this is actually a damage limitation exercise for DICE. Like you said previously “Can’t fix stupid”. ---
**Author:** ![ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ragnarok013/32/103211_2.png) [@ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ragnarok013)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/49 "2019-05-11T17:39:00Z")
I’ve moved this thread to the applicable Firestorm section. ---
**Author:** ![ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ragnarok013/32/103211_2.png) [@ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ragnarok013)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/50 "2019-05-11T17:41:00Z")
> [@TheNoobPolice](#): > > > [@meh20382](#): > > > > > [@TheNoobPolice](#): > > > > > > [»] > > > That’s exactly what they do. DICE has seen people switch to squad mode in higher numbers. It’s cold hard data they have at the end of the day, they’re not guessing. > > > > > > The idea that people go, “I can’t play duos now so I’m just gonna not play anymore”, is ridiculous. What actually happens in general is they just queue up with their buddy and play in a squad. > > > > Hi, I’m a duos player. Only play with my cousin. I haven’t played Firestorm since they removed duos. I’ve played squad before. It’s not fun with two randoms. No mics, they don’t share loot, they go off and die and reveal my position. If I happen survive my cousin and I get destroyed by a full squad. Real fun, I know. When duos came out, it was a blessing. The idea of me not playing Firestorm now is not ridiculous, its fact. > > _sigh_ > > Unfortunately, it’s well understood within social sciences that people who attempt to refute a factual general statement with a sample size of “one” generally have low intelligence. > > Example “On average, women are shorter than men” > > Idiot “well, I’m a tall woman!” > > Me: Facepalm. > > In case you don’t get the point, the fact that you, or someone that bothers to reply on here says it’s not the case is not at all relevant. They have the data and can see what player trends are doing. If this change meant people overall would stop playing the game, then they wouldn’t be making it. I don’t always agree with DICE’s design decisions but they are far from stupid. TheNoobPolice dial it back, there’s no reason to make it personal. ---
**Author:** ![ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ragnarok013/32/103211_2.png) [@ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ragnarok013)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/51 "2019-05-11T17:49:00Z")
Moved to the firestorm section. ---
**Author:** ![KorpusDraige](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/korpusdraige/32/102566_2.png) [@KorpusDraige](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KorpusDraige)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/52 "2019-05-12T00:07:00Z")
It’s funny that other Battle Royale games don’t need to remove the standard Solo/Duo/Squad modes, but BFV does… I wonder why? lol ---
**Author:** ![The\_BERG\_366](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/the_berg_366/32/101051_2.png) [@The\_BERG\_366](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/The_BERG_366)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/53 "2019-05-12T00:38:00Z")
> [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > Or maybe… just maybe the majority of playerbase doesn’t give s single thing about firestorm meme so it’s already dying and Dice had to do something to keep the remaining population. yeah cause removing modes helps so much to keep the population. it’s also telling that you post in the firestorm subsection while u clearly don’t like or play firestorm. so much hate that you can’t even accept others having fun with the mode? ---
**Author:** ![The\_BERG\_366](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/the_berg_366/32/101051_2.png) [@The\_BERG\_366](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/The_BERG_366)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/54 "2019-05-12T00:47:00Z")
> [@KPNuts74](#): > > > [@brooklynborn91](#): > > > > You guys are ruining this game. Duos is all anyone played, squads are horrible, and noone uses a mic. How can you not keep duos as a permanent game mode? You guys have trash servers on this game and yet we DIEHARD FANS still stick around. Im sorry, if you dont bring duos back ALOT of people along with myself and family members will stop playing this game entirely > > I personally love playing squad with friends most and DICE is reacting to actual server stats (rather than you just saying everyone just played duos…) I doubt that’s the whole truth. duos is the only mode they “can” remove as solos and squads were there from the start. also solos aren’t very popular and the peoke who play it normally don’t want to play any other mode. hence removing it won’t have a big enough impact on the other modes population. now duos and squads are both popular and I’m sure they also have a big mutual audience. hence removing one will most likely have a positive impact on the numbers of the other. clearly you can’t remove squads as it’s the “core” mode so to say. you can’t have a battlefiled battle royale without squad mode. now clearly them removing it doesn’t necessarily mean the numbers are bad relatively. it just means the numbers arent massively larger than the ones for squads and that they felt the need to concentrate the player base. ---
**Author:** ![j79b](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@j79b](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/j79b)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 11:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/55 "2019-05-12T11:06:00Z")
Give back duos damnit!! ---
**Author:** ![GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/graw2robz/32/102113_2.png) [@GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GRAW2ROBZ)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/56 "2019-05-12T12:06:00Z")
> [@KPNuts74](#): > > > [@MrCamp121](#): > > > > > [@KPNuts74](#): > > > > > > > [@MrCamp121](#): > > > > > > > > > [@KPNuts74](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@brooklynborn91](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys are ruining this game. Duos is all anyone played, squads are horrible, and noone uses a mic. How can you not keep duos as a permanent game mode? You guys have trash servers on this game and yet we DIEHARD FANS still stick around. Im sorry, if you dont bring duos back ALOT of people along with myself and family members will stop playing this game entirely > > > > > > > > > > I personally love playing squad with friends most and DICE is reacting to actual server stats (rather than you just saying everyone just played duos…) > > > > > > > > Dice doesnt respond to server nothin. Which is why every game mode they bring out is 2 weeks and they toss it aside regardless of how popular it is > > > > > > It would make no sense for them to do that. If a mode generates the player count, they would keep it going. > > > > So..rush? Grind? Both were highly popular. Explain > > Please provide the stats to prove those modes were popular enough to keep servers full long term. No, you don’t have them, all you have is your opinion and whiny posts from the vocal negative playerbase. DICE have the stats to help them make decisions. Well when Grind was out and mixed into the conquest filters. What I seen was for USA conquest and 5+ open slots was 89 servers minimum for just USA at Noon back when Grind was out. Now its about 29 to 32 servers around Noon without Grind. ---
**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/57 "2019-05-12T14:36:00Z")
I do not say “good bye”. I say “good riddance”. ---
**Author:** ![ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ragnarok013/32/103211_2.png) [@ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ragnarok013)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/58 "2019-05-12T16:10:00Z")
> [@j79b](#): > > Give back duos damnit!! j79b I understand that you are frustrated but keep the profanity out of the forums. ---
**Author:** ![ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ragnarok013/32/103211_2.png) [@ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ragnarok013)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/59 "2019-05-12T16:13:00Z")
> [@DaQuaz2284](#): > > Yeah. If that incompetent manager that just posted about taking Duos out due to the lack of que time for Squads, and if he actually thinks the Duo Firestorm players are going back to that disaster…then this game is in serious trouble. It is pathetic to think Duos we’re doing bad, it was just as fast as Solos and a lot faster than Squads. The dumb matchmaking for Squads do not work if you have 1 friend already in the squad. Wait 5 minutes just to go into a 2v4 game. Well, if they pull Duos, then along with a few friends I play with…it’s hack to PUBG or Apex. Screw these people in charge. First they were blind to being to the player base when people didn’t appreciate the force fed political bull & then the multiple updates that cause more bugs than the patch fixed- this game that has SO much potential…stands no chance with them in charge. DaQuaz2284Profanity and insulting employees is against the forum rules, dial it back and engage in a constructive discussion on the matter. ---
**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682/60 "2019-05-12T17:08:00Z")
> [@The\_BERG\_366](#): > > > [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > > > Or maybe… just maybe the majority of playerbase doesn’t give s single thing about firestorm meme so it’s already dying and Dice had to do something to keep the remaining population. > > yeah cause removing modes helps so much to keep the population. > it’s also telling that you post in the firestorm subsection while u clearly don’t like or play firestorm. so much hate that you can’t even accept others having fun with the mode? Nah, I posed here way before mods moved threead to FS section. Still if the mode isn’t popular enough, maybe there is truly no reason to keep it? Unless players want to sit in “searching” mode for quite alot. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682.md?page=2) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/duos-removed-seriously/108682.md?page=4)