EA taking action against toxic players

That’s not going to happen and you know the reason aka MUNEH.
EA’s eternal greed will not allow community to have any sort of control. That’s why RSP is not a thing and other limitations are surrounding us. MUNEHis one and only reason why we are in such mess.
Back in the day when communities and clans had the way to build and control their servers, it was way way better. While the same time publishers were only publishing games and that was it.
But now when those big corporations realized how they can monetize every single thing, those unleashed all unavoidable “services” on us. And we’re absolutely helpless here.
You want RSP? Sorry, that’s not happening.
You don’t want monetization in the game? Sorry, not going to remove that.
You want more content? Sorry, you’ve already paid for the game and we owe you nothing, lol.

is this gaysir or have i entered wrong site?

I only started playing Battlefield with V, so I have no idea what things were like before… but I’m not sure I’d support community self-moderation. I think having private servers could be potentially a very mixed experience, because if you have a very good admin who cares about making the game fun for everyone and moderating the in-game chat when people use slurs and be offensive, I think it would be great. In many ways, better than what we have now because things would be more proactive and banning players would be easier. But, if the owner of the server either didn’t care or encouraged people on the server to behave badly, then it would make the communities toxic. I think having private servers/admins could complement things like a chat filter and a report system, but I’m not sure I’d want to play in a private server if things were placed completely in the hands of miscellaneous people. Just my personal opinion :stuck_out_tongue:

That’s where communities come in. A server with a bad reputation will soon only attract the people who are happy to go along with it. That leaves the decent folk using the highly regarded servers.

Yes it was abusable. But the stuff in the first video can already happen even in BFV community games

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However since then the private servers are off the match list if they have too much tampering so the bad servers will becomes deserted.

The thing is, imo, if toxic players are all kinda sealed away together, I think it will lead to more toxicity. People who troll for jokes etc will have their behavior reinforced and it will become something more. Like with YouTube, their recommendations keep people in their comfort zones and they are never really exposed to other people, and I think that’s a mistake. It means people are less likely to view things critically because they already agree with them and many other problems. I think exposure to other players and causing both toxic and non-toxic to mix isn’t ideal, but long-term it could benefit the overall gaming community. I think in an environment where people troll others and everyone acts as they do, they will never have someone standing up to them. Even if someone only says “not cool, dude” in the chat, at least that’s something they would never have otherwise.

Yup, I think sealing them away would be a bad thing and lead to more negativity if/when they returned to public servers.

Exactly. Well said

Here’s a crazy idea, do what I do and turn off chat, that way I don’t care what they are typing because I can’t see it.

That makes too much sense and requires way too much personal responsibility than people can handle. People would just rather have some sort of authoritarian censor everything they don’t agree with or words that make them feel upset. Welcome to 2020 “DICE ban players that say EZ because it makes the loss I just took sting even more!”

This will also shut off any potentially useful exchange of information as well.
If you consider turning of the chat a victory, it is Pyrrhic one.

I said that I do not want to see that drivel, not for them to be banned. Do not put words into my mouth please. Alternatively no filter at all, I hate double standards where we are not allowed to swear a little but a prick who tries to laugh at the efforts of the other team is A-OK

Your mental equivalents of profanity to whatever are not valid because you repeatedly claim they are. ez is just the latest in a long line of overplayed memes. I remember when umad was literally 3/4 of all chat in game, didn’t bug me. But I reiterate broke driverfield should start working on anti cheat long before they make the in game chat anymore censored and pillow clad than it already is.

Speaking as someone who ran Battlefield servers from 1942 - BF3, I can honestly say that if a server is badly administered, it will be abandoned. People won’t play on it, and the will go away because it’s not cheap to rent a server. (Not one on a decent backbone anyway). Before that, we ran Counter-Strike servers through CS: Source.

My clan was required to switch teams in a steamroll to help balance it out. I didn’t allow racist, bigoted, or misogynistic language on our server. Cheaters were banned immediately after observation from an admin. Good nature smack-talk was fine, even swearing was fine (I mean, it was a rated M game, and still is, right?). We didn’t have a chat filter, or any big mods on there.

However - other servers that sprang up and went away while we were operating it was mainly because of admin complaints.

What it does lead to, however, is a sense of community around the servers if it’s done right. We had forums, in-person activities since most of us lived in the same general area (e.g. - a 3-4 hour drive away at most), a website with a calendar of events, we competed in CAL, OGL, and a few other amateur ladders, etc. We had servers going from the late '90s - about 2012ish. We only disbanded because most of the regulars got married and had kids and just didn’t have time. A few of us old farts tried to stick it out further, but we had to make the decision to shut down the servers.

However - I still have those friends. We still have a Facebook group we keep in touch in. Some of us still play together when we can.

Community servers have a LOT to offer, and any possible negatives are outweighed by the positives ten fold.

It might surprise you but I actually agree with your statements.
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Different people have different sensibilities and tolerances to the same words. What EA is doing with their blanket univeral A.I. filter is helping nobody cause it makes communication harder and harder.
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They should really give up on it entirely or replace it with some customizable filter that we can all tailor to ourselves without affecting anyone else.
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Cheating on the other hand… I think we can all agree what we do not want to be happening in our games.