Elitism in the battlefield community

[woll3]

@ThePunisher_be

To which part of my comment are you referring?

The part i singled out.

@ThePunisher_be

I believe that if a game like BF2 came out today, many would not like it: slower paced,

In regards to that please see the later part of my post.

@ThePunisher_be

more vehicle focused because of the magnitude of the maps,

So something like e.g. OP Firestorm wasnt Vehicle focused?

@ThePunisher_be

even more specific gun roles than in BF1 and more inaccurate gunfire (LMG were simply unusable if not laying down because of the recoil and bullet spread; same goes for other classes: I mostly changed to single shot, because full auto was useless outside of CQC).

Not really considering that everything had the same spread mechanics, recoil wasnt higher than it is now, and the spread being big to an unrealistic degree was actually hurting the game more than it did good, which funnily enough is also an argument that is brought up about BF1 due to its FSM mechanics on MG’s and SMG’s.

@robmcewen

@woll3 that video, I never played the old BF games on PC was that what it was like, I think I saw someone not use a rocket launcher or a tank to get a kill but not meny.

Well, it was from a Pro Series Match so people use everything to their fullest, and more importantly it shows that BF2 was anything but slow paced or the FPS equivalent of a “simcade”(which would be something like Insurgency, Verdun or RO2), as especially shown by the last firefight starting at 11:37, people jumping around(and you could jump really high in that game while retaining air control), going prone and standing up constantly, etc., and prior to patch 1.4 or 1.5 Jumpshots were possible as well, meaning that you could headshot people while jumping from roofs.

And while ironically it is a bit elitist, i think some peoples perception about BF2 being slow is due to playing mostly with “gated communities”, if everyone else you play with takes it nice and slow, ofc the gameplay will be slower paced.

[Foot_Elite_Tomei]

@joshualee585900
Battlefield 2 is liked by some because:
Class system
Commander system
In-game communications
Classic preset
Scale of battle

First three things what are missed most.

[Ram1c]

@Dogwoggle11

@xenome111

@joshualee585900

Im been noticing people say " battlefield 3 was much better than bf1" people calling anyone who likes bf1 casual even youtubers like LVLCAP saying bf1 casual nothing like bf4 and stuff like “all cod players moved to battlefield” battlefiled more casual. I thought to my self people say bf2 was the most skill in the series ( what people say) i played bf2 on hub that game was AWFUL grenade spam op jets etc is it just people have rose tinted glasses in the community or something plz explain

And don’t forget bf1 had the worst grenade spams in BF franchise.

Metro.

Lol yeah I was just about to scream out wut? Grenade spam wise bf4 takes the cake with the m320 and the xm25, explosive wise bfbc2 win with its insane grenades and let’s not forget the m2 carl gustav with the explosive perk.

[TEKNOCODE]

Statmongers.

[RomioiStrategos]

I don’t know why anyone bothers listening to levelcap. He is such a snob and he has been negative about the game from the start.

[Fruxen]

@joshualee585900

Im been noticing people say " battlefield 3 was much better than bf1" people calling anyone who likes bf1 casual even youtubers like LVLCAP saying bf1 casual nothing like bf4 and stuff like “all cod players moved to battlefield” battlefiled more casual. I thought to my self people say bf2 was the most skill in the series ( what people say) i played bf2 on hub that game was AWFUL grenade spam op jets etc is it just people have rose tinted glasses in the community or something plz explain

With this simple formula you can autofill half the forum posts of any game in the last 20 years of PC gaming.

was more fun, it took more skill and teamplay!
is less fun, it’s dumbed down and full of casuals!

[bran1986]

@robmcewen

Unless you get paid to play a game then I’m afraid in my eyes your a casual gamer, yes people take games a bit to series serious than others but unless playing games puts food on your table your a casual gamer.

The reason LVLCAP goes on about BF1 being casual is so he can get the click bait views, it’s a lot easier to make a whining video than one with some substance. Plus remember the live reveal of BF1 when Simon from NEEB’S Gaming kept killing him and matimiO, you can’t edit out had game play at a live event.

As for elitism in BATTLEFIELD it’s most defiantly here, but you will find it in pretty much every game just try not to be one of em and rise above it.

@woll3 that video, I never played the old BF games on PC was that what it was like, I think I saw someone not use a rocket launcher or a tank to get a kill but not meny.

I have seen that happen to Xfaptor a couple of times as well. Someone in the CTE was kicking his head in(had him down like 0-6 at one point iirc) and he was just screaming hacker, “reported” him, it was hilarious.

[Aeshettr]

@MayorMarionBarry

Just mention that you enjoy playing small map modes and watch the BF elites tell you that you’re not playing ‘real’ battlefield and should go back to COD.

I’m a BF vet and have always preferred the smaller game modes

[crabman169]

@bran1986

@robmcewen

Unless you get paid to play a game then I’m afraid in my eyes your a casual gamer, yes people take games a bit to series serious than others but unless playing games puts food on your table your a casual gamer.

The reason LVLCAP goes on about BF1 being casual is so he can get the click bait views, it’s a lot easier to make a whining video than one with some substance. Plus remember the live reveal of BF1 when Simon from NEEB’S Gaming kept killing him and matimiO, you can’t edit out had game play at a live event.

As for elitism in BATTLEFIELD it’s most defiantly here, but you will find it in pretty much every game just try not to be one of em and rise above it.

@woll3 that video, I never played the old BF games on PC was that what it was like, I think I saw someone not use a rocket launcher or a tank to get a kill but not meny.

I have seen that happen to Xfaptor a couple of times as well. Someone in the CTE was kicking his head in(had him down like 0-6 at one point iirc) and he was just screaming hacker, “reported” him, it was hilarious.

It’s ironic; these YouTubers thinking they are so L33T stomping little kids who’ve just started playing the game yet cry and scream hacker the instant anyone starts betting them

[obisearch]

@joshualee585900

Im been noticing people say " battlefield 3 was much better than bf1" people calling anyone who likes bf1 casual even youtubers like LVLCAP saying bf1 casual nothing like bf4 and stuff like “all cod players moved to battlefield” battlefiled more casual. I thought to my self people say bf2 was the most skill in the series ( what people say) i played bf2 on hub that game was AWFUL grenade spam op jets etc is it just people have rose tinted glasses in the community or something plz explain

Opinions are like a holes, everyone has one…
However opinions are not facts. If someone says that hard-line is the best in the series doesn’t make it untrue or true it’s just opinion, certainly hard-line did some things very well.

Anyway nobodies opinion is gospel if YouTube’s hump BF4 so what? I think BF4 sucks and pails in comparison to bf3. I also think that bf1 is my favourite. Does my opinion stand higher than yours? No

[Ferdinand_J_Foch]

@robmcewen

Unless you get paid to play a game then I’m afraid in my eyes your a casual gamer, yes people take games a bit to series serious than others but unless playing games puts food on your table your a casual gamer.

The reason LVLCAP goes on about BF1 being casual is so he can get the click bait views, it’s a lot easier to make a whining video than one with some substance. Plus remember the live reveal of BF1 when Simon from NEEB’S Gaming kept killing him and matimiO, you can’t edit out had game play at a live event.

As for elitism in BATTLEFIELD it’s most defiantly here, but you will find it in pretty much every game just try not to be one of em and rise above it.

@woll3 that video, I never played the old BF games on PC was that what it was like, I think I saw someone not use a rocket launcher or a tank to get a kill but not meny.

Oh yes, I remember seeing LevelCap getting constantly killed by Simon of all people. It must have been humiliating to lose against almost undoubtedly the worst FPS player in the history of human kind.

All of these BF YouTubers going on about ‘casul game lol’ would get their heads kicked in by actual professional BF players. Put them all in one team against someone like Relaa, and they’ll be killed in a matter of seconds. These people also loved to abuse use mechanics in previous BF games that allowed one to dominate without any effort, such as M16A3s, M416s, grenades, Little Birds, laser sights, foregrips with no downsides and so on.

I agree with the rest of the post as well; if you don’t make any money from the game, you’re almost definitely a casual gamer. The only exceptions that I can think of are flight and racing sims, as those are technically ‘games’, but some people use them for practicing real-life scenarios.

[herodes87]

People like to think that old Games are better then new ones.

I played bf1942, moh and CoD when they came out. And loved them. Never played Bf2 because my PC was Bad at the time and i was still in school.

[Prep768]

Hands up who gives a [hoot] what Level Cap says?
Anyone?

[Dogwoggle11]

I do, he is my idol and I always believe anything he says because he is soooo experienced on FPS games and Battlefield in particular so he can’t never be wrong and he is funny and clever and I love him okay?

Leave Levelcap alone!! You are lucky he even uploads for you, ! Plz!!

[HANSGRUBER30]

@Dogwoggle11

I do, he is my idol and I always believe anything he says because he is soooo experienced on FPS games and Battlefield in particular so he can’t never be wrong and he is funny and clever and I love him okay?

Leave Levelcap alone!! You are lucky he even uploads for you, ! Plz!!

I knew it you are matimiO

[Temp1st]

Let’s not forget Lvlcap trashed on the skill cannon SLR’s (Seb06/RSC/AL8) and said Seb16 was the best SLR in the game for the longest time..

Let that sink in.

[HANSGRUBER30]

@Temp1st

Let’s not forget Lvlcap trashed on the skill cannon SLR’s (Seb06/RSC/AL8) and said Seb16 was the best SLR in the game for the longest time..

Let that sink in.

Watching him play medic is a how not to guide, “Hay level you going to heal that guy, no, ok how about reviving that downed play, no never mind”

[Dogwoggle11]

@robmcewen

@Dogwoggle11

I do, he is my idol and I always believe anything he says because he is soooo experienced on FPS games and Battlefield in particular so he can’t never be wrong and he is funny and clever and I love him okay?

Leave Levelcap alone!! You are lucky he even uploads for you, ! Plz!!

I knew it you are matimiO

Dude, it was a secret, come on…

[x_Undaunted_x]

@bran1986

I have seen that happen to Xfaptor a couple of times as well. Someone in the CTE was kicking his head in(had him down like 0-6 at one point iirc) and he was just screaming hacker, “reported” him, it was hilarious.

The last time I watched him play on twitch with some of his subscribers, he blamed them for everything going wrong, especially his poor performance. He degraded them to the point of being a total tool. He should be glad it wasn’t me or we would have had words over how rude he was being to his fans. I’ll never watch him on youtube or twitch because of it. If that’s how you treat fans, I’d hate to see how he treats the real people in his life.
The dude’s just a total d-bag.

[boutneus]

Wut? My peasant brain can’t compute